pervus has this one right... not at ski sundown (nov. 12) and the NOv.26th thing is a demo, due to the fact that everytime I;ve done open jams in towns its been over crowded and not as much fun for... me. so, there it is. this way, we'll all be able to see some cool shit go down because skiers and riders will have the opportunity to really get used to the set up, which, will be kind of cool.