Net neutrality under attack
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WoFIowz
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13859087:.lencon said:
No ending net neutrality means that ISPs can meter speeds for different websites. It is expected that video streaming sites will be slowed which will result in crappy quality. Right now however, the rules state that ISPs must provide the same speeds for every website regardless of how much bandwidth they use per month.
270on420out
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13859091:Ryhan said:
Dobber I thought we banned you after you used multiple NS accounts to win MOTM like 2 years ago.
freestyler540
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Trump is repealing the Net Neutrality legislation under the guide of Mark Cuban and the chairman of the FCC, Ajit Pai. According to Cuban: "Trump is in charge of the internet".
Enjoy another round of distractions, misinformation and ultimately surrender to the power of neo-liberalism. Ill stay in Canada where the telecom industry is an oligopoly.
Enjoy another round of distractions, misinformation and ultimately surrender to the power of neo-liberalism. Ill stay in Canada where the telecom industry is an oligopoly.
WoFIowz
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13859207:JAHpow said:
Well Netflix and streaming has exploded over the past few years. This wasn't as big of an issue as it is now with HD and 4K streaming and binge watching sucking up huge amounts of bandwidth. Throttling of internet speeds was already happening before they enacted net neutrality and was beginning to be noticeable I believe.
fries
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13859207:JAHpow said:
Net neutrality means that they treat all websites and data as the exact same. This is what the FCC is trying to get rid of. When it is gone, service providers will be able to discrimate against different websites, filter information, and lock any website behind a paywall.
I hope if they do it, other legit companies spring up and shut the bullshjt companies down. The cable companies need to die.
TOAST.
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13859258:theabortionator said:
Unless you live in a densely populated area you often dont have many chances for isps. Hell my family had dialup until 2011 because we hated the only company offering fast internet, eventually my dad caved because he had to work from home some times.
TheDoughAbides
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13859091:Ryhan said:
13859117:Ryhan said:
Spoken like a true neckbeard
iH8pow
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There's nothing we can do. The GOP has their mind made up; they need to deliver a guaranteed win to their base and Pai is their guy to deliver exactly that. I wish our voices made a difference but it'd be a lie to say so. Funny how Trump always lambasted Obama for "hating America" but this is exactly what he does. Of course cable companies need to lash out too because you can stream sporting events and cut the cable. I have the sports package on my directv though and it's completely worthless--most of the games are blacked out. I get my college hockey from NCHC.tv so I wonder what will happen to that stream speed under this repeal. Our school just got HD cameras this year too :-( Would suck to be a gamer too.If I have to pay extra for netflix, I'm just getting rid of that. I'm ready to cut all the cords though I'm too fucking busy with work and car projects and when I'm a parent it wouldn't be a bad thing to raise kids without a TV. Silver lining is the people of this country might be forced to cut the cord and *gasp* go outside!
TheHamburglar
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It seems like the masses are gleefully unaware of this issue and the importance of this vote; they'll surely wake up when they can't log into twitter to tweet about the fact that they can't access netflix to watch the bachelor or some shit
theBearJew
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Is there anyone at all that actually supports dismantling net neutrality? Just seeing if there is any individual out there that have that opinion.
cool_name
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13868183:theBearJew said:
yup, it is just another stupid government regulation that supports big business.
It forces consumers to pay for all or nothing in regards to the internet. Why should someone who never streams videos and just uses the internet for email be forced to help subsidize someone who watches netflix all day using up immensely more bandwidth?
The argument that internet companies would benefit from getting rid of net neutrality is also very questionable, seeing as they are proponents of the regulation.
WoFIowz
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13868218:cool_name said:
I sincerely doubt internet prices will drop, but maybe they will for lower consumers. Who only uses internet for email? Is this 1995? Just get the lowest package.
Also what are you smoking? ISPs directly sit to benefit from net neutrality repeal and are proponents to repealing it. Companies against net neutrality include Verizon, AT&T, Comcast, Spectrum to name a few. And to give an example, Time Warner Cable (now Spectrum) has already said in leaked memos that they planned on charging sites such as Netflix extra fees for allowing users to access, otherwise they will throttle speeds. Do you honestly think that these companies won't charge websites extra money for bandwidth access if they were given the opportunity? It's a business and they will make money where they can.
deathcookie
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13868218:cool_name said:
From what I understand, bandwidth caps and restrictions as a whole were not controlled by the net neutrality rules. That means that the internet providers could actually charge more for someone using more bandwidth, or charge more for different data caps. That isnt changing.
See this link:http://time.com/money/4489355/netflix-internet-data-caps-fcc-comcast/
What this means is that internet providers can charge more for different uses of the same amount of bandwidth. For example, an internet provider could charge $15 for 10GB of Netflix use and $5 for 10GB of Hulu use. There is no benefit to the ordinary person for charging different rates. Also, that 10GB of Netflix would cost the same to the provider as the 10GB of Hulu.
Things have been working fine regarding the internet. These big providers do not need to grow. That isnt economic progress. Plus, who do you know that only uses email?
cool_name
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13868230:IsitWinterYet17 said:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2017/07/12/how-isps-responding-internets-net-neutrality-protest/473182001/
If you read the article, while it seems like they are fine with the repeal of the regulations, but they all are supporting an actual law to take the regulations place. This is absolutely being for net neutrality.
**This post was edited on Dec 14th 2017 at 4:11:28pm
WoFIowz
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13868245:cool_name said:
You seem to be misguided. All that USA today article says is how the ISPs want to repeal net neutrality, but enact a law in place over regulations. It doesn't specify what will be in that law. It doesn't say if they will fight to keep neutrality in the law or make laws to prevent neutrality. It will likely be some complex law that has a bunch of "if thens" allowing partial neutrality to an extent in certain markets, along with whatever else the legislators want to tack on to the bill like Healthcare, immigration, taxes, etc as they always do. ISPs literally have no benefit to not want the ability to throttle speeds, other than customer satisfaction. All it says is they want a law, not their end intentions. In a corporation oriented, republican run legislature, I would not want to risk permanent net neutrality laws. We are already fucked for taxes 10 years from now. I can't wait to see what a net neutrality law would entail.
Ask yourself this. Why did they want the previous neutrality regulations repealed in place of a law if they weren't planning on lobbying for changes? Because they want to change it. If it ain't broke, why fix it?
Do you work for one of these companies?
fries
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Apparently there are multiple state attorneys that are going to sue the FCC for their repeal of net neutrality.. heres the linkhttp://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/latest-clyburn-blasts-fcc-net-neutrality-repeal-51792629
GayWolf420
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cool_name
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13868271:IsitWinterYet17 said:
The companies seemed pretty clear in that they want the law to be for open internet, aka net neutrality.
Do you want to kno where all the if thens really are, it's not the laws, it is the regulations. The regulations are easy to change and adjust which makes compliance very expensive and makes it harder for the companies to predict how the government will act.
Oh and come on, only republicans can complain about the deficit in this tax bill. Democrats lost the right to complain about deficits after they stayed quite and watched Obama sky rock the debt.
And no I don't work for these companies, I just don't believe giving the government more power ever leads to more freedom.
DrZoidberg
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Wasn't one of the original, if not well publicized, goals of this to allow ISPs to charge companies like netflix more? Comcast would love to charge netflix the company way more than they do now since they probably use so much bandwidth, and netflix can certainly afford it, right? Obviously the same could be done to users, but the real money to be made is gouging the big companies. Likewise, you could sensor things you don't like by charging them a fortune to distribute their content.