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Sheltron3030

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So the other night me and my park crew boss stayed up into wee hours of the morning discussing (arguing) many things about terrain parks...We disagreed on many things, so since we were both rather intoxicated and unable to see the others point of view, i came to NS to discuss them with you guys to get a more broader prospective. Let me know what you think about the following. Please let me know if you need me to elaborate on anything:

Do you judge a park on how well it's park crew rides?

Do you think that when a resort hires you they look at your experience or a college degree (Lets say one guy has had 4 years experience grooming parks and another possible hire knows how to drive a cat but has a business degree or something)...who would have more chances...and why...?

Is digging summer ski camps a really bad job? Why? Why not?

Do you think females are discriminated against in the ski industry, job wise...Like if a male and female have the same experience and are applying for a lift mechanic or park crew...who do you think would get hired, or what would you consider...

THeres more but theyre slipping my mind so ill bring em up later...

Lets here what ya'll think
 
1. No

2. I would say yes and no. It probly would depend on the job which the employee would be doing.

3. Deffiently

4. There will probly be some gender bias towards women.
 


Do you judge a park on how well it's park crew rides?

Yea sorta, if the park crew isnt very good, then the park tends to be not so good and shit never changes.

Do you think that when a resort hires you they look at your experience

or a college degree (Lets say one guy has had 4 years experience

grooming parks and another possible hire knows how to drive a cat but

has a business degree or something)...who would have more chances...and

why...?

Probably the guy with 4 years experience because he has more experience, means less time training him which alot of companies frown up having to train someone (which is stuipid and laziness)

Is digging summer ski camps a really bad job? Why? Why not? No, digging summer camps is fucking sick, I've done it before and I loved it.

Do you think females are discriminated against in the ski industry, job

wise...Like if a male and female have the same experience and are

applying for a lift mechanic or park crew...who do you think would get

hired, or what would you consider...

It depends on how many guys/girls ratio there is currently. Say if the park crew consists of all dudes right now, would be good in my opinion to have some hot ladies on the crew to make things interesting.
 
Do you judge a park on how well it's park crew rides?

-would you ever trust a skinny cook?

-id take somebody with park experience over somebody with a business degree any day. if you have a business degree and you end up working for a park crew then you must have fucked up in school pretty badly.

-being a summer digger would be a sweet job. its like having a summer landscaping job but instead of spending your paycheck on things like college, you spend it on going to ski camp all summer.

-i think females are discriminated against in every industry, except maybe the housekeeping industry/blowjob industry.
 
No.

Probably.

Theres worse.

Yes, but no. If a man and a women have similar credentials and experience, a job such as park crew would have more use for males because the job involves heavy lifting and other tasks that require strength.
 
1. yes and no. i mean it is sick when you see them out killin it. but the park is good or not becuase it is good or not, not because how how well the crew rides. i mean most people would correlate good riding with good feaure making becuase if you know how to ride things well you know how to build them, or at least what you like and dont like about stuff.

2. depends on the job. if it is for groomin the pipe and you hjave a guy with 4 years of grooming experince in the pipe or a guy with 1 and a 4 year degree...go with the guy who has 4 years experience.

3. sure there could be worse, like cleaning out toilets! hehe. the diggers at momentum seem to like it and come back every year...

4. yes, and im not just saying that because i am a girl. how many mts do you know with girls on the park crew? and im not saying every girl could do it, some are just not strong enough to do some things, but some girls are, and if they are willing to try it they should be givin a chance. but then that goes back to question 1, is she a good rider, or just good for a girl, that plays into if you are piking a park rew based on how they ride....
 
1. you need a balance. i mean in my mountain the boss of the park crew is sick and he know how to build and stuff but the rest of the crew are just average riders but they work hard to make a good park

2. experience for sure

3. at least you are working in some stuff you like

4. i think girls have less chances to get a job like in a park crew just because this aspect of this sports you se more men than women, but in a while girl will have same chances
 
It seems there are some gender issues. For example, there will be a girl who is okay at skiing, lets say she does 5s and lipslides. People will be like "oooh shess soooo good" when really shes just good for a girl

I dont know if the patronizing is a bad thing, but its something I've noticed all too much.
 
Do you judge a park on how well it's park crew rides?

Not really. I judge a park on the park, the features. You can have a totally awesome park but shitty skiers. But it's not common to have amazing skiers in a shitty park. Usually if a park is good, you can count on some good skiers there.

Do you think that when a resort hires you they look at your experience

or a college degree (Lets say one guy has had 4 years experience

grooming parks and another possible hire knows how to drive a cat but

has a business degree or something)...who would have more chances...and

why...?

Experience is more important, but it depends on the job. A person with a business degree who has been involved with the industry would be able to manage a park fairly well with balancing a budget, advertising, and setting up the park, while the person with experience would be the best for telling the manager what people are looking for, exactly, and would be able to groom the park and make the features great.

Is digging summer ski camps a really bad job? Why? Why not?

I don't know. It looks good because people always want it cause you get to ski for free. That's always good, but I have no experience there.

Do you think females are discriminated against in the ski industry, job

wise...Like if a male and female have the same experience and are

applying for a lift mechanic or park crew...who do you think would get

hired, or what would you consider...

They may be, but I wouldn't understand. A man and a woman have equal credentials...who wouldnt hire a hot girl skier? seriously, unless your gay(not to say that ugly girls shouldn't be hired).

 
Do you judge a park on how well it's park crew rides?

no, i judge based on how much i see them maintaining the park throughout the day. (i.e. keystone = good, copper = bad, i never see anyone with a shovel there). though when someone like jerrund (on keystone) works on the park crew, it is sick.

Do you think that when a resort hires you they look at your experience or a college degree (Lets say one guy has had 4 years experience grooming parks and another possible hire knows how to drive a cat but has a business degree or something)...who would have more chances...and why...?

it depends, if the person with college has worked with either that resort or a sister resort in the area (i.e. summit/eagle county) they would definitely be given the edge, but if neither candidate has experience with the area, the person with the degree may have a slight edge.

Is digging summer ski camps a really bad job? Why? Why not?

i'd want that job, it's alot better than landscaping, though grill master would be prety nice too (person who runs the bbq for the camp).

Do you think females are discriminated against in the ski industry, job wise...Like if a male and female have the same experience and are applying for a lift mechanic or park crew...who do you think would get hired, or what would you consider...

i don't really know, there's just a lot less girls in general in the ski industry, though i've never heard of girls having problems getting jobs in the mountains (though mostly for shops/restaurants), i guess it depends on the specific job, and i could see some male favoritism in a job like lift mechanic.
 
women have more attention to detail, less mistakes, but sometimes dont have good judgement/common sense (take driving for example). but put em in a park or lift....
 
park crew: their abilities do matter, the crew needs to be able to ride every feature they have in their park, otherwise whos determining how any paticular jump is supose to hit.

i'm sure you've skiied a park that was designed only by snowboarders back in the day... ride on rainbow rails impossible for skiiers to hit properly... if the creator can't test his/her creation to adjust it, and make it correctly, why even make it at all.

the park crew does not need to be the best kids in the park, but still needs the skills to ride everything they have.

Hiring: I think qualifications come from exsperiance. what can you learn in a text book about business that applies to how to build a jump? The only thing that is gained by having a college degree, or even being in school is that they are more likely to be a dependable reliable employee. That piece of paper says that they were able to focus for four years to get their shit done, and that they probably won't flake out on the job. (all probablity and it's really cicumstantial between the individuals, i don't like generalizing this because you cant.)

Digging summer camp a bad job? Do you love skiing? It'd be a great job. If you lack that passion for skiing, the passion that drives the skiier to get up at 4:30 am so they can beat traffic up to the mountain, get first tracks and freshies from the big storm. If you're not the one to say i've had enough partying tonight, i've got to ski in the morning, or if you wake up and say this is the biggest hangover i've ever had, i think i'm going to pass on skiing today despite there being 5 ft of fresh pow, with more coming down, digging is not the job for you.

do females get discriminated against? Probably, but are there more things to be considered than exsperiance when it comes to a job like park crew? Yes.

If you had to call a bunch of friends to help you dig up some holes in your yard, plant some trees, and move some other shit around, who would you call your girlfriends who work in their garden all the time with loads of planting exsperiance, or your guy friends who don't have a green thumb, but usualy go to the gym and work out?

for park crew/lift mechanic, exsperiance plays a bit of a role, but is not the only factor to be considered, determination, physical capacity to do work, quickness of learning are all important things to be considered.

if you have an equaly qualified guy and girl, both with the same strength, same learning curve, same determination, same exsperiance you should exspect either to get hired equaly, 50/50 chance, not the woman, not the man, because if you chose one, you discriminate against the other.

 
Do you judge a park on how well it's park crew rides?

Nope, but it seems that if the crew is good, the park is better

Do you think that when a resort hires you they look at your experience or a college degree (Lets say one guy has had 4 years experience grooming parks and another possible hire knows how to drive a cat but has a business degree or something)...who would have more chances...and why...?

Defiantly experience. Grooming etc has nothing to do with how smart you are.

Is digging summer ski camps a really bad job? Why? Why not?

No, you get to ski a sick park all summer, and build some of the best parks. But it's tough i've heard.

Do you think females are discriminated against in the ski industry, job wise...Like if a male and female have the same experience and are applying for a lift mechanic or park crew...who do you think would get hired, or what would you consider...

I don't think so, at least no here. Moonlight had a girl on park crew and 6-7 girl lifties. Plus a lot of women in other jobs at the resort.
 
No.

Experience, they don't have to worry about training you.

Yes and No. Yes because you could have a better job and be one of the kids and No because its kind of fun building all the shit.

Yes. The guy would get hired.
 
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