Need some help- rail material

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Alright, tonight me and my friend built a 10 foot rail in his kitchen of his house actually.. haha... it is about 4 feet high. we are bulding another 10 footer and extend it to 20 feet...... Now, my friend just randomly bought all the material and started blasting away in his kitchen. its going to be a shotgun rail. For the actual rails he bought copper piping. I told him to just get steal pipes but he wanted the copper piping for some reason, but whatever..... will that be fine? hopefully it doesnt rust or anything, cause he is drilling in the rails to the frame tommorow... I will post pictures of it when i get them scanned.... what a random night

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we made ours out of steel, we used them tonight

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coppers pretty strong, not corrosive in water, I don't see why it wouldn't work? Maybe if you were grinding it in a thunderstorm it would be more likely to be struck by lighting than steel.

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^haha ya true.... i just didnt know about the material and whether or not it would last... but other then that the rail is pretty sick.. hopefully we can get ahold of his welder and make some real dope shit....

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yeah if your friend has a welder he probably knows what hes doin, but just in case, you can't weld just any metal pipe, you need a certain kind. I have access to a welder but am too lazy to build any more rails, I'd rather just drive to our ski resort.

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yeah i hear ya, a welder will make everything so much better, cost effecient, and time consuming.... my friend is really serious about this, he wants to start a company and shit and sell backyard rails to people around new england or wherever else. Which would be a real dope concept, if it all worked out.... ahh well who knows

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haha, copper oxidizes though. it turns green. (think statue of liberty) and it's a fairly soft metal, so dinging it up isn't going to be too hard. use steel.

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Ya, oxidizes after about five years^ , hollow steel is soft too which is what i used, just make sure your not fat and don't hit the rail slow.

-Pat
 
yeah copper is a whole lots softer then steel (especially hardened steel which would be best for a rail) so you have a good chance of getting alot of burs from it and chipping it with your edges. pretty sure welding copper tube is a different process then steel too. Good luck though

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Alright well i guess the copper didnt turn out to well.. my friend tried drilling nails through it and he said that they were sticking out of the copper. sooooooo... what should i use... hardened steal? and how can I attatch this to the wood? Can u drill through the steal?

'I'm far from broke, got enough bread and mad hoes, ask Beavis I get nuttin Butt-head' - Big L

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yes you can drill through steel, just get a drill-bit for metal and drill slower than you would through wood. If it's really thick have a little bottle of oil or water or something to cool the bit down as you're drilling. Then use bolts, not nails. Though then you should tap the hole to give it threads for the bolt to hold.

If you have a welder, why not just build the whole thing out of metal, mixing wood and metal makes things a hassle, plus welding is more fun than drilling.

 
alright sounds good.. so hardened steal is the best for rails then?

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What does anyone think about starting a business selling rails and ski accessories? I think it could catch on in New England, and maybe expand it time...I duno though my partner isn't too good with tools....any opinions

 
well have fun paying for shipping costs etc, as well as insurance policies for the rails you build, and have fun getting customers to buy your rails. to tell you the truth, it is better for resorts to make their own rails and jibs, because it is more cost effective. if you can find a way to make it convienent for a resort to buy your rails (which cant be sloppy, you have to know what your doing), then you'll be in business.

good luck.

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just go to home depot and buy some steel rails. thats what i got

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yeah i didnt even think of the whole insurance thing. I mean the rail we built last night was pretty good and sturdy, but if we were selling rails to people we would have to make sure we got everything down to a science, and really make them dope.. i thought about making some rails for my local mountains, I wonder if they would buy any, shit, I would even donate them to the mountain

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^ and open yourself up to huuge insurance liability, just think if someone gets hurt on one of your rails, who are they going to blame?

 
If you are making the rails out of wood, why not attach PVC to them? It would be much easier

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i dont know how u build your houses in the states but in england they put scaffolding up the sides of the building and the steel is really good shit. u can build a 20ftr and only hav 2 put 3 downrights on it. i made one for skating and its doesnt bow or do any of that shit. super durable and for like 50bucks you could get 30ft of it 2nd hand.

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I'm not talking about being the general supplier for snow summit...our school is near real rich and bratty fairfield, I think with all the kids getting into freestyle skiing and snowboarding we could make some good money...what if you include a disclaimer, like use at your own risk? The one we made is real solid, no way it's gona break unless a 300 lb kid tried to hit it I guess, the base is 2X4s with 4 triangular supports on EACH leg...anyone made money selling rails before?

 
^ are you talkign about fairfield CT? cuz fairfield greenwich and glastonbury(the town i live in) are pretty much the richest brattiest town in CT. I know how all those kids would make there parents pay for the rails, You could inflate the prices a lot and they would still buy them,

Ya and where can you buy steel rails That are kinda long (15-20 feet) I wanna steal some from construction sites ands stuff but thats kinda sketch esspecially if you don't have a car

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i think that you should use wood and make sure that it is over nut high so that you can get a splinter in your nut sack good times

 
all the cool kids get splinters in the nutsack. all of us have been doin that for years.

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Ya that's what I'm talkin about...I Deliver pizza on weekends to those kids for some extra cash and everytime it's like oh well will you take my parents credit card...I think It could be a good business...the best place we found for steel rails was homedepot, you can get the 10 footers 1.5 inches for 7 bucks and the 2 and a half inces are a little more...i duno about 20 footers though...we are getting a welder so we can connect and bend em...that's real good input though thanks!

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yeah i found this sick aluminun rainbow rail in the back of a construction site and took it, i know aluminum is a really soft metal and all, but is it even worth building supports for and attempting to slide, because it is a really nicely shaped rail

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if u want a good jibbing rail just use pvc, its strong and u shouldnt have any problems with it, plus u can get some ass long pieces

 
yeah i mean if we build quality rails, and put a disclaimer on them, then its the buyers responsibility to keep the rail in good shape.... we can definitely make alot of money doing this... shit I am a 20 year old college kid, i need to make money any way I can.. and what better to do it then selling something you are obessed with

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drunkentiger - if you dont know how to get steel tehnd ont make a rail....simple as for the copper rail youve already made it so see if it works and if not get some steel

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well things are looking good, and things are starting to fall into place.... so hopefully a company is down the lines.... bash it if u want, but its going to work

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You'd have a better chance getting a job at a ski resort and making boxes there than making a box company. You could probably sell like 5 boxes in your local area for some extra cash though, depending on where you live.

-Pat
 
ya im goin to get in contact with local resorts when the rails start really coming into place

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Where we are from is highly populated by spoiled rich kids who love to do rich things like ski and snowboard...I think it's gona be a real good concept...If you were an 18 year old kid who was obsessed with skiin and snowboarding and some college kids started a company making any sort of quality, custom rail that you wanted to fuck around with in your back yard, wouldn't you buy one? I would...we talked to some kids in the Fairfield area and one said that he did something like that cause he dad was a plummer and could get his hands on any sort of pipes he wanted...he said he got so many e-mails he just quit the whole thing cause he didn't have the time...that sounds pretty profitable to me...what u think?

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^ yeah he didn't have the time, Personally I have access to a welder and all the snazz but my time is spent better on the couch or doin somethin else lazy other than making a box company.

-Pat
 
I found the problem!

'my friend tried drilling nails through it and he said that they were sticking out of the copper.'

Try either screws...or use a hammer...nails don't screw in too well...

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