no idea, i want to get elizabeths. so shoot me an offer. with and without bindings, idk how much they are worth, i see threads selling the same setup as mine for 500$ some for like 200$ some even cheaper, idk how to price these. but they are a baller ski, skiied them all last season just hit jumps and rode groomers never any boxes or rails. holding up as if they are new.