My view on the VT Massacre

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pnsski

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this just furthers my belief that college professors should be trained and armed with a firearm.... think about it... IT IS THE ONLY WAY to prevent or help prevent something like this from happening again ... making gun control laws more strict will do nothing... we just need to put guns in the hands of the right people to stop lunatics like this

oh i just turned 17 7 minutes ago yeyyyyyyy
 
NO NO NO NO! Think about what you just said! yes i agree with you that stricter gun control won't help much, but it would be a TERRIBLE idea to give every professor a gun. Not only would it be a legal and logistical nightmare, but I almost guarantee that over the course of ten years or less, there would be at least 32 deaths resulting from misuse of those weapons. As many people on here could probably attest to, college professors aren't exactly the sanest bunch of people on the planet.
 
ok i'll just say this right now:

there is no way in hell knowing how to operate a gun is going to become a mandatory requirement for a german professor at a college. ever. ok. done.
 
maybe everyone should have guns. if those first two kids in the dorm room had guns, maybe it would have ended there.

look, you can point fingers every direction. it won't bring anyone back. and handing hundreds of guns out on a college campus is a horrible idea.
 
way to ruin my birthday... ha just kidding but yea i do kinda see what your saying... my professor now looks like don veto.... what about having 1 armed security guard per floor per building per campus per school..... more jobs.. better safety?
 
higher tuition? people just need to pay more attention to crazies. there were like a million signs that dude was gonna flip. any signs of mental instability need to be fully explored. this could have been prevented without any guns.
 
Oh alright. Well, let me put it this way. Some of the professors at my university are the LAST PEOPLE ON THE FUCKING PLANET that I would give a loaded firearm to.
 
it's easy to see that schools are perfect places for crazy individuals to kill a lot of people society cares about and get in the media.

Having armed security guards woulb make me feel more comfortable, but i think it would be unfortunate for it to come to that.

fighting fire with fire is one way to take care of the problem (is more guns on campus) but i think we should focus more on trying to deal with these individuals before they get out of hand. That kid was pretty disturbed before the shootings and maybe if we had a system that paid more attention to those in mental anguish this would have never happened....maybe it was impossible to get through to him though.

 
happy birthday man, i hope your age brings you the wisdom to come up with much better ideas than that one.
 
additionally... i am of the personal opinion that widespread handgun ownership spreads violence rather than prevents it. if guns are viewed by society as acceptable solutions to a problem, they become more attractive to guys like that as solutions to their own problems of being fuckin nutjobs
 
It is an unfortunate event that is really unavoidable, you can make it harder to do but if someone is that fucked up that they are going to shoot up a bunch of their class mates then there is really nothing to stop them from doing so. Hopefully we will learn from it and be able to get help for the people that are mentally unstable enough to commit these acts before it happens. The roommate should have blown the whistle on this 3 semesters ago. And as for the schooling and security systems this only happens onece every like 6 years? out of millions of students it is a rare event. you just have to find the troubled kid before the tragity happens.
 
The thing is you really never know that someone is going to do this. They will usually not tell a soul unless they have a partner or something like Columbine. These things usually happen spontaneously when someone just finally gets to the point or something really bad happens to them.

If you put me back in high school, I could easily point out 20 or 30 kids that were "mentally anguished" enough to do something like that. The problem is nobody wants to deal with the problems of people in problems like he was going through. Everyone will tell you to grow up, stop worrying so much, and just brush it off like it's nothing. What doesn't seem like a bi problem to you may in fact be the matter that puts a kid over the edge to bring a gun to school and kill everyone.

The way I see it is it's something that you really can't prevent unless you change the entire way school is run. You have a lot of freedom in high school compared to former schools. The teachers don't walk you down to lunch or patrol the halls. You have a lot of unrestricted social interaction, and that is what causes kids to break down. There is nobody monitoring the every day struggles that kids go through.

I can see how the transition from some of these schools may just be too much for some kids. It's a pretty big leap from middle school to high school and then from there to college is an even stronger leap. The problem really doesn't lie in bullying, music choice, video games, internet usage, etc. The problem lies with the individual and their own struggle to adapt with the social level that they are surrounded by.
 
I never wanna go to a school where i have no freedom, ppl patroling, seeing me as possible killer.

Dude i live in a freaking free country. And actually i have no idea how to preven stuff like this. I think you cant... Maybe get some kind of a system for ppl who act really weird. But yeah this dude also got to a institute... but teacher with guns? I would be scared as hell in class. I have seen teachers getting out of control and if there would have been a gun.. i dont think they would have used it but damn i bet i would have pissed in my paints if i knew there was one behind his desk
 
If you think that the professors should be trained with fire arms then maybe i should just become a teacher if one kid tried to shoot me I'd grab a shotgun i kept under my desk and shoot him about 43 times... and say it was self defence... haha
 
no not at all. then only the criminals get them illegally and its worse for the economy and safety definately a no go.

but personally, i think there is no way to stop kids from doing these types of things. think about it, how many times has this happened though? out of the millions of kids going to college, high school, and middle school almost no shootings occur. although i think this one COULD have been prevented he was definately messed up and showed signs before this. i mean he went to a mental institute and was released, then that poem i mean some red flags should've went up...
 
criminals would still get guns. the real problem is concealed hand guns. you seldomly hear about rifles and shot guuns killing people(unless our vice president is involved)
 
Yeah if everyone was skiing and not learning, he wouldn't have killed anyone. Hell, if he was skiing, he would have probably been picked up by Ninthward.
 
it looked like he had mothballs put into his cheeks and couldnt even have his ideas straight enough to say them without reading off a piece of paper.

everything about him is fucking disgusting.

BUT, i think that the attention needs to start coming off him and instead respect those slaughtered through his rage and remember those innocently killed. this guy is getting nothing but attention, which im sure is what he wanted
 
ok im gonna get pissed off...for everyone who seriously thinks you can eliminate guns...what the fuck are you retarded? if you go door to door taking guns from every LAW ABIDING AMERICAN, the only people left with guns will be criminals. how do LAW ABIDING AMERICANS then defend themselves because the police cannot be everywhere. we gonna stab them with a knife while they shoot us? criminals would always be a step ahead of everyone else, just like with drugs, viruses, hacking...all that shit. it is easier to do then catch.

i feel the only way we can control this problem is to heavily tax guns. Europeans have to pay an enormous price to just own a gun. i personally own over a dozen pistols and shotguns, etc. and i would be perfectly fine with paying a high amount to own a gun. i will always be protected from crazy motherfuckers.
 
I think regardless of where you stand on gun control, there is probably something everyone can agree on. In Virginia you can still buy a gun if you have a mental disorder such as depression if the person voluntarily admitted themselves into a mental hospital. That clause is what allowed this killer to still buy his guns because he voluntarily admitted himself. I believe and I think we should all be able to agree that anyone with a mental disorder or disease should not be able to buy a gun. Sure he probably could have still found a way to get a gun but at the point is to make it as difficult as possible for these people to get their hands on guns.
 
the guns that guy had bought were legally bought. i think the selling of guns laws needs to be modified...
 
i heard that guy had no previous record and was clean...there was really no way to modify the gun laws that would of prevented him from buying one.

I don't think gun laws are what is important here, anyone cant get a gun on underground market if they are serious about it as well.

 
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