My view on God

Mezmerize19

Mezmerize19

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Now before we get started let me make a few things clear

NO. I am not trying to preach

NO. I am not going to start my own fucking church

NO. I am not trying to push my opinon on anyone

NO. I am not trying to be degrading to the Catholic church or any branch of the Christian church. Lets add any religon at that

some of this is going to sound crazy to your but I know what Ive seen and I know the good people on NS are going to see this as what it is and put some insiteful thoughts into it. I take no responsibilty for any fighting due to the topic of religon in this thread

For Cliff notes see way bottom

Now on with my point

For some time now I have been in Catholic school. In fact all of my life I have been thought only the ways of the Catholic church. But now I am old enough to see things outside of the box. Developing my own style of religous handwriting if you will. And what I find is that God is not this proper thing with the authoity of kinglydon (if thats a word) installed into him. I was always told to be respectful to him and such because he is almighty and our creator and that to pray to him often yadda yadda. What I have found though, is that if you treat him like that, its not a good thing. In fact I find that it is better to talk to him as you would anyone else. Let me explain. If what I was told for my whole life is correct, we are made in the image of God no?

Well now with this said, we must all then have a part in God. This makes us, in a way, equal to him. No with the being an image of this in my mind include traits. Traits such as anger, sadness, etc... Only thing I think was not his was jealousy. I belive that was a man made emotion. These emotions have been shown throughout the bible so theres some proof for you. Weather you read the bible or not is your thing. Anyways, churches always tell you to pray. Pray pray pray. Thats like the number one thing to do in any religon. Now let me ask you: If you had someone comming up to you, every single day of your life asking for a favor, wouldnt after a while you turn them down for a good deal of them? Why? Because you get aggitated and annoyed. I think thats why God doesnt answer every little prayer. He gets annoyed like we would and turns them down for a good deal of them. Me, every single time I have asked God for something I have gotten it. and even somethings I didnt ask for. You know why? Because I very rarely turn to him and ask for things. Once maybe...every two years. Three times in a year at max. I dont bug him for things a lot. Sure I come with the occasional favor but the time span between them is so great he doesnt mind. One thing that he has given me today was a sign. Actually its been going on for two days now. I prayed, and no not the traditional get down on kneees, deep though praying. I did just like a chat to him, as though I was talking to a friend. what I prayed for was a sign of something that I was having trouble yet. I waited, took about a half hour till I got under my bridge near my developmetn and stopped, and sat. There above me were five pigeons. 3 gray and two white. I didnt get it at first but then it hit me. the three gray ones where the guys who were involved and the two white ones where the girls. I just so happen to also have a silly thing with pigeons with one of the key persons involved so it all made sense. For the past 48 hours these pigeons have been very acurrate in the things going on. Almost like up to the minute stats. But back to my point. I thnk god wants to be treated more like a friend then a holy figure. The amount of respect given to him daily may be slightly annoying and he just wants to us to see him as someone who is there rather then a almighty one.

Well thats all I thought for today. And dont bash me for this. I thought NS would be a smart bunch for once and not be so ignorant toward thoughts

CLIFFNOTES: My veiw on God is that he wants to be treated as a friend rather then an almighty being so that there can be a greater relationship between the us and him. Also praying every single day is like someone asking you for a favor everyday. you going to get annoyed and say no for a good deal of them. Same with God, he gets annoyed and says no. Only going to him when you need and no more is fine and has worked for me.
 
While I have respect for the basic morals of the religious life, I feel organized religion has corrupted such rightiousness. Were I to participate, I would be a hippocryte.
 
word, dont need a church to live a just, moral driven life.

but some do, and i dont ahve a problem with that. some use god as a crutch, and by reading this, i see you dont. congratulations, a true believer, and while i may have my doubts you only reassure me that there is a chance out there god could be there.
 
fuck you faggot.

and i agree, i dont pray often. only if i really need help or almost just someone to talk to that i know wont judge me. and usually when i pray for things, they do come true. i know what your saying man good post.
 
i actually treated god the exact way you described for the first 13 years of my life. i would talk to "him" often. most times not asking for anything simply talking to him like i would a friend. from time to time i would need him and ask for his help. the thing is with me, nothing ever happened. but i was always told god works in mysterious ways. nothing happened. this has nothing to do with my loss of faith actually. because when i smarted up i realized i was talking to myself

but to the whole thing of the 5 pigeons it reminds me of south park. not to sound like a dick but on the episode with john edwards, kyle was told by john that his grandma was angry and should look for 4 white doves. later kyle sees four white doves on a poster for jewleard and thinks that his grandma was talking to him. i really think the pidgeons were just your mind searching for an answer to openly and you are too scared/confused/worried to realize they were simply 5 pidgeons. also the scared etc. part was in no way meant to be mean. i understand that people are always searching for answers and often don't know where to turn

i feel as if i have a deeper knowlege into this subject because i was a devout christian for so long then turned into a free thinking agnostic as i grew older. i refuse to believe that religion in society is a good thing. when i was 13 i was told (in a casual non-denominational church) that everytime i looked at pornography i was commiting a sin masturbating was a despicable thing. also homosexuals were going straight to hell becuase they "chose" to have sex with members of their sex.

i do like your description that if god is actual really he is more of a friend than an allmighty man watching over us and laying down his law. i just find it hard to believe that in a time so morally despicable as ours, a god who was so active in the world 2000 years ago (and as i had it explained to me, to god a million years is like a second to us) does nothing or says nothing. where i can be 100% positive that our world now is much worse than when [read if] he sent the "flood"

hope this wasn't to confusing. i love topics like this where a discussion will always occur
 
sorry but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH you are stupid. infact one of the stupidest things i have ever heard. i find it offensive you post such mindless trash and ask people in the name of intelligence not to be critical.
 
I find the definition of conciousness is to have the ability to think, to use a sense of logic in your decisions and thoughts. To say God (if there is one) can't be critical makes no sense. In order to make logical and sensible decisions you must have a least an iota of criticism. You cannot fix the bad if you cannot see it.

Either God is slightly critical, or he's a retard. You make the call.
 
how is he stupid? cause he is questioning what a curupt religion is telling him and actually forming his own views and not being herded like another sheap?
 
I think your definition of praying to God (or whoever someone would worship or who is holy in their views) is different than others. To me, praying just isn't asking God for this and that and to just hand it to you. It's also a time for someone to thank him for something. Something just as simple as a beautiful sunny day. Or a powder day if you want to look at it. I also look for signs in things. I think God doesn't just hand things to you if you want it but helps you get to it or eventually shows you what is right.

i hope that made some sense...
 
well believing there is a supertnatural guy in the sky and that he is giving him signs in the form of pidgeons is in my opinion stupid. religion is the biggest scam in the history of man and i dont care if my dying grandmother believes in god, i will tell her to her face she is a fucking moron. anyone who believes in this shit is a lesser human being then me.
 
now THATS a fucking opinion! haha. i totally agree with the scam part. especially when i see the local preacher with a brand new harley with his 3 kids all with nice new cars
 
You cant just quit because stuff doesnt take immediate effect, huck finn. I dont believe in any of it, i believe you should live your life and do whatever makes you happy regardless of what you believe in. Thats just my opinion.

(if anyone gets my huck finn reference ill give you a cookie)

 
not to be mean but if you read the whole post it says immediatly after me telling the story of me praying, i say this actually has nothing to do with why i don't believe in god anymore
 
seriously, im not bashing you for not believing in god that is fine whatever floats your boat but. but to say someone who does believe in it is a lesser human being then you? hah you my friend need to get your shit straight, you are no better than anyone else, and noone is so shut the fuck up and quit holding yourself higher than everyone else. if you said that to my face i would probably fucking knock you out.
 
no i didnt read the whole thing my b. heres cookies for everyone...except me :*(

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I have to say, you have become my new best friend on NS. Let me give you a formal greeting. Hello, My names Jamie. how the hell (no pun intended) are you?

and everyones opinons are great right now. keepin the peace. thats good
 
i believe the exact same. i pray usually nightly, not like "oh god you are the man and i worship thee blah blah" just like say "so yeah, today i went to subway with my friends.." shit like that to let him know whats up. keep a friendly relationship with the guy. he usually gives what i need when i need it (i dont ask for things too often), but in a different way. if i notice im being really impatient lately, i ask for patience. he doesnt give me patience, but an opportunity to be patient. if you've seen Evan Almighty, you know what i mean. but yeah, point is, keep god as one of your homies, not one of your idols
 
yeah, the ones who think everyone should be like them. i believe in god, dont go to church, masturbate, swear, and sin on a daily basis and dont give a fuck what anyone else thinks about me being a christian.
 
word man, i do the exact same stuff. i still believe in god. even though i might not follow all of his rules i do believe in him. i go to church for like easter christmas etc. and i cussed when we were walking to the car and some lady told me i shouldnt be a christian because only god knows what else i do. now she was like 80 years old. and i said please dont say something like that to me again, i believe in god just as much as you so fuck off. shit didnt go over well, but i dont care...

dont know why i told that story really but oh well...
 
lol thats sick how you told an 80 year old woman to fuck off coming out of church. but yeah, id be pissed too if i were in that situation. yeah i go for easter and christmas, and like once or twice with my school (its catholic, we usually have mass once a month lol). i ditch church for mcdonalds all the time.
 
my school makes us go to church on vigils and such but outside of school, yeah i only go on important days that are significant to the church. Really I think my talking to him is enough but it keeps everyone happy. And good story there shawn. I lolled
 
Dude I am a Christian and I sort of agree with your view to treat Him like your friend. But seriously, take one look at His creation and you have to asgree that he is Almighty and Sovereign. Like all the mts and sunsets and stuff and it shows how poerful he is. But he is your friend. When we pray and he doesnt answer, its because He has something else in mind. He has something in store for tthat prayer. Maybe its not what you wanted, but it will work out in the end. But no, you cant pray for 1 foot of fresh tommorow or a new pair of skis to show up in the mail. You get the point tho. And its cool to know that he always has soomething in store for us, whether we like it or not, we just have to trust him. THis is how we get closer to Him=friendship.

I hope this is clear
 
Well I dont go to church and I dont belive in a christian god (or any other religion) but I do pray to "God" (for lack of a better name to call him/her/it) and when I'm feeling down I will talk in my head to "God". In my opinion religions are rediculus scams BUT the bible has good morals to be taken from it, as do most other religeous books I'm sure, just don't take the stories literaly and you will do fine.

(first ns post ive ever even attepted to use puntuation)
 
Ive had so many hypothesises like, what if everyone of us are god to all the shit that lives in your body, or the fact that matter is what it is and we are just a bunch of evolved freaks
 
fuck

i just wrote about my revelation and it deleted it

well today, at work, He sent me a sign.

as i was wlaking across the parking lot to cut some shit, an older dude (50ish) asked me, "Hey son, you wouldn't happen to know whcih pub has the better food now would you?"

to He, I replied, "Uhhhh. Ummmm. Hmmmm. well that one always has more people in it."

to me, he thanked, "Thanks, there's my answer."

i walked along the road where i had another revelation. there was a hotty sitting in a car looking at me smiling, i was like yeayeayeayea.

cliffnotes: god sends himself for messages, not pidgeons.

god is about 50, and rides a bike with those old round mirrors on the handels

god likes good food

god doesn't like origionality in his followers, he likes them to jam in the same pub

god sends you rewards for telling him where to get some quality grits

and most importantly: everything is a sign
 
then who in the world created these friggin huge mts. how created powder? powder didnt evolve from mud. we certainly didnt either in fact the bible has proof of that. Prove to me that God doesnt exist
 
i think discussing religion in large groups is pointless. everyone is saying things and these things are huge so no one reads everything then people just throw out more random shit and no one even listens to anything. no one will probably read this post either.
 
Alright dude, you're situation sounds kinda similar to mine, Catholic my whole life, now starting to think and question it. So I'll throw in my two cents, hopefully you get something out of it. It doesn't exactly adress your question, just sort of what I think. And remember, even if I state something like fact it is just my opinion, which could very well be wrong.

I kind of see God differently than you. I honestly don't really believe that God answers little prayers like that. At least in my humble opinion, God leaves it up to us to sort out all the little shit in our lives. Maybe in life-and-death situations, but he doesn't interfere with our everyday lives. What would be the point then? He leaves it up to us, and we have to figure it out. And yes, everyone fucks up all the time. That's why I like the concept of forgiveness. If we know we fucked up and really try not to do it again, then it's okay in God's book. I don't think I really agree with the formal institution of Confession where you have to go to a priest in a little booth and say certain magic words, then everything is good. That doesn't mean shit if you're gonna go right back out and do something bad again. I don't think God would get annoyed with us, whether it's for asking for too much shit or fucking up too much. He understands that we are humans, and therefore usually fucking idiots and assholes to each other. In my limited experience, I have unfortunately found that people can be really cruel and fucked up to each other, and I believe the Church can relieve a little bit of that. Yes, like other people have said, religion has been and is still somewhat corrupt, hypocritical, prejudiced, and harmful. But it also does a fucking ton of good stuff, especially in developing countries. The strength that these people in shitty situation find in their religion is amazing. And I'm not saying Catholicism or Christianity is the only right religion. It's original purpose has been so twisted over the years, probably a lot more than most religions. In my opinion, Jesus would be the one right next to the gays and other outcasts, not telling them to go burn in hell. People who take the Bible literally, fundamentalists, televangelists, etc, all are usually either scared shitless by life and are looking for something to hold on to or in it for the money and power.I have no problem with anyone's belief if they have thought it out for themselves and at least have a basic respect for human life. So to sum it up, humans and the Church(because of the humans running it) can do some fucked-up shit, but they can also do an enormous amount of good.
 
k,ive decided to post in this again cause im bored

ok so until i was like 12 i always kinda did the whole god thing, well ok so my view is that sexuality is something your born with not a decision (did u decide to be straight?) so anyways i've always been bi but i was never realy at terms with it because the church and the bible said it was "wrong" and that i was going to hell, well not me because i didnt even admit it to myself so yea you get the idea. so anyway i realized the hipocrisy of, god loves me right? so why am i going to hell over something i cant control? that cant be right so there we go, god cant be real because the bible lies, and its the word of god, and god dont lie so if the bible lies thats like god lying which he cant so there we go, god is an oxymoron. it was a tool designed by the romans to breed conformity and a basic sense of right and wrong, well it worked but it's just that. a tool for conformity, thats why our government is so obsessed with christianity, it says not to use your brain, thats what the governent wants and thats how it works,

god isnt real

jesus is dead

end of story
 
there is no god, the big bang occurred and set up the fundamental rules for which this galaxy exists within and adheres to and from then on we have been evolving into a meaningless abyss with no actual free will until we eventually kill off human kind through warfare and finally rid the earth of it's cancer. This is happening in galaxies all around the universe at the same time, all in different ways, and it is complete chance that determines which solar system and time point in evolution you happened to be born.

...on a lighter note its really sweet that you have an invisible friend
 
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