My boots are too big

crf741

crf741

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i bought my current boots a few years ago from my local ski shop when i was first getting into skiing, and i was clueless. apparently the employee was clueless as well because recently as i have been coming to my senses ive realized that these are absolutely not the boots for me and there is a high chance they are too big. i am sliding around and i definitely have more movement than i should. i am 100% getting new boots soon but i want to try to make these last until the end of my season (around the end of may). any ideas of what i can temporarily do without getting new boots?

psa. theres a chance i am going to get new boots within the next two weeks or so, because i am going on a trip with my family, but only if a good deal comes up

psa #2. if this helps at all im currently running a 28.5, which feel too big, and i tried my friend's 27.5 methods and they are def too small, so im thinking about 28 is right for me, but it could be the type of boot/liner that is affecting me

**This thread was edited on Mar 12th 2024 at 8:57:16pm
 
Go to a bootfitter at the beginning of next season. You could check out options on patriotfootbeds like shims and such to fill space temporarily. Boots should be tight af. I wear an 8 mens shoe and rock 24/24.5s, can only get them on by putting the liner on first, race boot style.
 
go on amazon and order a cheap shim or two or three for under your footbed. also with that get some ankle pads. all quick and cheap on amazon and will make your boots work till the end of the season. with the 27.5 feeling to small though. don’t rule it out. with heat molding you probably can and should make a 27.5 work but go to a boot fitter and try and figure out if he knows what he’s doing before you work with em.
 
The mondo size is not gospel- a 27.5 in one make might be +- one size in another so it’s more about the shell fit and all this other stuff the average skier only knows a little bit about
 
"apparently the employee was clueless as well " "if this helps at all im currently running a 28.5, which feel too big, and i tried my friend's 27.5 methods and they are def too small, so im thinking about 28 is right for me, but it could be the type of boot/liner that is affecting me"

There are no half sizes in ski boots and the shell determines fit, not the liner, you fucking kook. You want to know why your boots are too big? Its because you're a dumb fuck and told the shop employee 27.5 boots were too small and "hurt your lil toesies" when they were the correct size. People can't read your mind, you fucking idiot. They fit based on your feedback. Get fitted by a boot fitter and shut the fuck up when they're telling you what size you need. Accept the fact you don't know shit and stop blaming others for your ignorance and stupidity.

Or keep doing what you're doing now by relying on the internet because as we all know, boot fitting is best done without you physically there trying on the boots, you fucking moron.
 
14597950:Casey said:
The mondo size is not gospel- a 27.5 in one make might be +- one size in another so it’s more about the shell fit and all this other stuff the average skier only knows a little bit about
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LOL yeah man, give boot fitting advice when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
 
14597966:skierman said:
"apparently the employee was clueless as well " "if this helps at all im currently running a 28.5, which feel too big, and i tried my friend's 27.5 methods and they are def too small, so im thinking about 28 is right for me, but it could be the type of boot/liner that is affecting me"

There are no half sizes in ski boots and the shell determines fit, not the liner, you fucking kook. You want to know why your boots are too big? Its because you're a dumb fuck and told the shop employee 27.5 boots were too small and "hurt your lil toesies" when they were the correct size. People can't read your mind, you fucking idiot. They fit based on your feedback. Get fitted by a boot fitter and shut the fuck up when they're telling you what size you need. Accept the fact you don't know shit and stop blaming others for your ignorance and stupidity.

Or keep doing what you're doing now by relying on the internet because as we all know, boot fitting is best done without you physically there trying on the boots, you fucking moron.
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jesus bro, just end it already so you stop taking out your agony from living on innocent people on an internet ski forum.
 
14597985:Voyage86 said:
jesus bro, just end it already so you stop taking out your agony from living on innocent people on an internet ski forum.
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Does downvoting posts make your dick hard?
 
There isnt a difference between .5 and a standard for many brands, my 26.5 atomics just have a shim which goes under the footbed to make them the smaller 26 size. Might be worth checking if a shop near you has one of these shims they could pop underneath your footbed for now. Spoilers for the shins are nice too
 
14598040:BayAreaJerry said:
There isnt a difference between .5 and a standard for many brands, my 26.5 atomics just have a shim which goes under the footbed to make them the smaller 26 size. Might be worth checking if a shop near you has one of these shims they could pop underneath your footbed for now. Spoilers for the shins are nice too
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okay thanks, i never really took the time to learn anything really about boots so i am still a little uneducated on that but i appreciate everyone’s help
 
14597966:skierman said:
"apparently the employee was clueless as well " "if this helps at all im currently running a 28.5, which feel too big, and i tried my friend's 27.5 methods and they are def too small, so im thinking about 28 is right for me, but it could be the type of boot/liner that is affecting me"

There are no half sizes in ski boots and the shell determines fit, not the liner, you fucking kook. You want to know why your boots are too big? Its because you're a dumb fuck and told the shop employee 27.5 boots were too small and "hurt your lil toesies" when they were the correct size. People can't read your mind, you fucking idiot. They fit based on your feedback. Get fitted by a boot fitter and shut the fuck up when they're telling you what size you need. Accept the fact you don't know shit and stop blaming others for your ignorance and stupidity.

Or keep doing what you're doing now by relying on the internet because as we all know, boot fitting is best done without you physically there trying on the boots, you fucking moron.
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you quoted things without context, i mentioned as well that i was clueless also and that i didn’t know how my boots should fit, which was a big contribution to getting the wrong boot for me.
 
14598044:crf741 said:
you quoted things without context, i mentioned as well that i was clueless also and that i didn’t know how my boots should fit, which was a big contribution to getting the wrong boot for me.
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You’re new here.

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14598044:crf741 said:
you quoted things without context, i mentioned as well that i was clueless also and that i didn’t know how my boots should fit, which was a big contribution to getting the wrong boot for me.
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What was out of context about you insulting the employee when you don't have a fucking clue?
 
14597967:skierman said:
LOL yeah man, give boot fitting advice when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
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There are differences in bsl between brands and differences between liner volumes between brands so this is actually good advice. I have two pairs of boots (different brands) in a 27.5 and a 28.5 and they have a mm difference bsl measurement.

maybe you also, shouldn't give bootfitting advice when you don't know what you're talking about
 
14598071:skierman said:
What was out of context about you insulting the employee when you don't have a fucking clue?
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employees job is to get him in the right fit. if this guy tells the employee the boot is tight, the employee should explain that the boot should be tight rather than give him a size up. hole point of a boot fitter it to get people who don’t know what they are doing into the right boot. you shouldn’t be expected to know anything about skiing to be fit properly.

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It’s helpful for indicating the true size of a boot. If a 28.5 stated is running a 315 BSL I can reasonably guess it’s going to work for someone who usually uses a 27.5…. Unless you thing materials operate in a vacuum and the length of the boot sole would have absolutely no correlation to the length of the boot…. Which is pretty dumb

14598186:skierman said:
BSL has nothing to do with boot fitting, you fucking jackass. You don't know what BSL is, do you?
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14598205:dukes717 said:
It’s helpful for indicating the true size of a boot. If a 28.5 stated is running a 315 BSL I can reasonably guess it’s going to work for someone who usually uses a 27.5…. Unless you thing materials operate in a vacuum and the length of the boot sole would have absolutely no correlation to the length of the boot…. Which is pretty dumb
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So I hate to break the bad news to you and be on skiermens side but he’s very right. The BSL don’t mean squat when it comes to sizing. In fact there is no standard for BSL. So you can have 5 boots all a 304 bsl and they can all be different lengths regardless if they’re all 304.

no two companies follow the same process. So a 304 from k2 can be completely different than a 304 from atomic or rossignol etc.

So the BSL has no real usefulness when it comes to sizing someone. BSL is used for sizing the boot to the bindings.
 
14598260:PartyBullshiit said:
So I hate to break the bad news to you and be on skiermens side but he’s very right. The BSL don’t mean squat when it comes to sizing. In fact there is no standard for BSL. So you can have 5 boots all a 304 bsl and they can all be different lengths regardless if they’re all 304.

no two companies follow the same process. So a 304 from k2 can be completely different than a 304 from atomic or rossignol etc.

So the BSL has no real usefulness when it comes to sizing someone. BSL is used for sizing the boot to the bindings.
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no I get that, and I understand it's to indicate the boot size to the bindings. I've just found, anecdotally while bootfitting, that it's a useful tool to get a gauge on sizing the foot. Like if someone's on the longer end of a 27.5, and we're having trouble finding the right boot I'll sometimes look for BSLs on the longer end of that spectrum. Sometimes it works, and some of it is just knowing what boots fit "long" in my experience but it's a good way to guide between brands sometimes.
 
14598260:PartyBullshiit said:
So I hate to break the bad news to you and be on skiermens side but he’s very right. The BSL don’t mean squat when it comes to sizing. In fact there is no standard for BSL. So you can have 5 boots all a 304 bsl and they can all be different lengths regardless if they’re all 304.

no two companies follow the same process. So a 304 from k2 can be completely different than a 304 from atomic or rossignol etc.

So the BSL has no real usefulness when it comes to sizing someone. BSL is used for sizing the boot to the bindings.
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also, legit question but in terms of standardization wouldn't the BSL have to be relatively consistent in terms of measurements in order to ensure the toe lug fits correctly in the AFD? or would there be some play there?
 
14598269:dukes717 said:
also, legit question but in terms of standardization wouldn't the BSL have to be relatively consistent in terms of measurements in order to ensure the toe lug fits correctly in the AFD? or would there be some play there?
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You’d think so. But no. There is no followed standard
 
There's a few things you can try to get you through the season. Definitely hit up a bootfitter though next year (or during an end-of-season sale this year). Bring the old boots as well when you go.

As my own liners have packed out, I use both a footbed insert inside the liner (Atomic boots come with these like someone said above) under my insoles, and the Eliminators behind the liner tongue:

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1089636.jpegThe Eliminators are not cheap, $60 CAD for me from a local shop, but I like them a lot and couldn't find an equivalent cheaper option.
 
14598592:Dani-B said:
There's a few things you can try to get you through the season. Definitely hit up a bootfitter though next year (or during an end-of-season sale this year). Bring the old boots as well when you go.

As my own liners have packed out, I use both a footbed insert inside the liner (Atomic boots come with these like someone said above) under my insoles, and the Eliminators behind the liner tongue:

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View attachment 1089636The Eliminators are not cheap, $60 CAD for me from a local shop, but I like them a lot and couldn't find an equivalent cheaper option.
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i just saw this, but i went to a bootfitter yesterday on my way home from the mountain, he put some padding in, and slid some footbeds in there too. feels better, but i am going to need new boots soon for sure.
 
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