i talked to gabe and i assure you, no shit talking will be going on. there has been trash talking from fans from both sides. the internet is a cruel cruel place, but believe what you like, your presence wont make or break the party i assure you, but it will be fun. the party at the Flats (which i wasnt even in town for) was coincidentally held the same night as Musik Lives Here's burning man after party where a very small group of people who helped with burning man were invited. the shit talking that commenced over the loud speakers was from a some unruly individuals that had a bit too much to drink (we've all been there) and feel bad. i have complete respect for Oz, Gabe and the rest of the Musik Lives Here crew, and always will. their parties are bomb!!! Playground, i dont know em at all so i cant say anything about them or to them. we're just some kids going to the woods to have parties, come if you wish to have fun and listen to some tunes!