well, you see, thats the funny part. mine were conveniently out of warrenty, after 4frnt changed their warrenty, that used to be one of the best in the industry. the first time, they hooked me up with a new ski to replace the broken one for $50. not a bad deal, considering they were out of warrenty. the second time, they offered me a pair of 3 year old MSPs for wholesale price. to most people, that might seem like a deal. however, i work in a shop, and have access to a wide variety of skis at a discount. i didnt buy the MSPs through my shop though. i felt that strongly about the ski and what 4frnt was all about back then that i paid retail price for them from another shop, which they knew. why would i pay wholesale for a pair of skis that i've had terrible luck with when i could get a better ski from a company that will back their product for less money? sorry 4frnt, i'm bitter.