Movie magic in the ultimate run?

gravel

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unparalleled skiing from markus, this has nothing to do with the skiing in the video, just the filming/editing. there are some suspect things going on maybe?

1:05 basic one, cut angle and full angle are different hits. not really a big deal maybe just covering up a flail or something but still, smh, the make is the one to use.

8:13 backflip out of the truck? no chance you could get that speed/air from just the truck stopping. no angles do it justice either, the side angle is below the plane of the bed and jump so you can't see his feet on the snow, would be too easy to SFX. then after it goes to the cut angles, behind and the dynamic shot in front, neither of those clips show marcus skiing off the truck, he's already in the air.

2:45 this is the main conspiracy for me. i doubt the rodeo out of the cave, i think it's SFX editing a rodeo from a different jump into that scene. i believe that they forsure went in there and built that jump. the lighting is all wrong on the drone shot that has the landing, let alone it does a weird digital "bump" movement like they were splicing clips together. if you look at the BTS video they show the POV gopro landing and the outrun is totally different and there are more tracks in the landing. they have a POV clip of getting winched through the tunnel but don't show the actual jump or flip part of it.

i mean, it's a red bull video, obviously there are embellished bits and its not meant to be taken seriously in the reality of it. like suspend your disbelief and all that shit. but at what point is it deceptive to be doing fake shit to make it seem like it isn't? when that gets in the way of the skiing? and i want to get shut down rn wearing my tin foil hat, i want some leaked BTS iphone clips to prove me wrong about my skeptic shit.
 
Or maybe you could just enjoy the edit and go on with you life. what is up with you guys that have to point out everything "you" think is wrong with an edit or someone's style or whatever. Does it make you feel better about yourself that you were able to critique someone else's efforts? I simply don't get it.
 
14348284:3mania said:
Or maybe you could just enjoy the edit and go on with you life. what is up with you guys that have to point out everything "you" think is wrong with an edit or someone's style or whatever. Does it make you feel better about yourself that you were able to critique someone else's efforts? I simply don't get it.

i'm just complaining about making fake shit and blasting it like it's real. it's skiing so it should be about showing the skiing honestly.

i enjoyed the video a lot and respect the effort going into making a project like that regardless of if parts are edited or not. never claimed it wasn't enjoyable or they didn't put enough work in.
 
14348293:RCFS.TV said:
Watch the behind the scenes video. They show how most of the things you mentioned were done.

i did watch the bts. they show them building things and extra inrun/outrun clips but they don't show any of those clips actually happening, they don't show anything more than what is in the video. at least for the truck and cave ones.
 
Andri Ragettli did a backflip from a moving truck like that it worked. I think it was real.

14348296:gravel said:
i did watch the bts. they show them building things and extra inrun/outrun clips but they don't show any of those clips actually happening, they don't show anything more than what is in the video. at least for the truck and cave ones.
 
14348296:gravel said:
i did watch the bts. they show them building things and extra inrun/outrun clips but they don't show any of those clips actually happening, they don't show anything more than what is in the video. at least for the truck and cave ones.

Ok, fair enough there is no side angle showing the full drop in they added on the back and a complete shot of him landing the backflip after using the full set up, but that would definitely work with the added extension/drop in they built. You only need to go probably 15mph or so and slam on the brakes at the right time. The cave is also totally doable with the winch they show, but I agree I hate when there are in air or mid trick cuts in movies.
 
topic:gravel said:
unparalleled skiing from markus, this has nothing to do with the skiing in the video, just the filming/editing. there are some suspect things going on maybe?

1:05 basic one, cut angle and full angle are different hits. not really a big deal maybe just covering up a flail or something but still, smh, the make is the one to use.

8:13 backflip out of the truck? no chance you could get that speed/air from just the truck stopping. no angles do it justice either, the side angle is below the plane of the bed and jump so you can't see his feet on the snow, would be too easy to SFX. then after it goes to the cut angles, behind and the dynamic shot in front, neither of those clips show marcus skiing off the truck, he's already in the air.

2:45 this is the main conspiracy for me. i doubt the rodeo out of the cave, i think it's SFX editing a rodeo from a different jump into that scene. i believe that they forsure went in there and built that jump. the lighting is all wrong on the drone shot that has the landing, let alone it does a weird digital "bump" movement like they were splicing clips together. if you look at the BTS video they show the POV gopro landing and the outrun is totally different and there are more tracks in the landing. they have a POV clip of getting winched through the tunnel but don't show the actual jump or flip part of it.

i mean, it's a red bull video, obviously there are embellished bits and its not meant to be taken seriously in the reality of it. like suspend your disbelief and all that shit. but at what point is it deceptive to be doing fake shit to make it seem like it isn't? when that gets in the way of the skiing? and i want to get shut down rn wearing my tin foil hat, i want some leaked BTS iphone clips to prove me wrong about my skeptic shit.

Wow. Maybe you are taking thing too seriously. I'm sure there were probably several tries to get it all put together.

That's the nature of a video like that.

I don't think they said it was a "Real Lap"!

One must admit, the final product was insanely nuts!
 
I think you're wrong about the rodeo and the other cuts aren't super dishonest. One you missed is that after the 3 they splice a tomahawk where he actually stopped into a different one where he rides out, but I don't really care. Its about telling a story, not trying to realistically show a run top to bottom.
 
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