Mounting Look Pivots

lil.Boye

lil.Boye

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so i just bought some barely used Look pivot 14. i will mount them to some ON3P Magnus. i just wondered if i should ask a ski shop or save some money and mount them myself? my dad knows how to mount, but he have never mounted looks.
 
In all honesty a monkey can mount skis as long as you have the proper jig if you don’t have a jig you’re pretty much guaranteed to fuck it up.
 
I was in the same boat, bought some brand new Vishnu's and look pivots. Best price for a local shop to mount was $70.

Obviously I didn't wanna fuck up, but one day I just decided I was going to do it, printed out paper jigs, tripled checked EVERYTHING before drilling and then went for it. My boots literally fit perfect. Can't for the snow to try them out.

Take your time, its really not hard, just make sure your center mounting line is actually centered on the ski, and DONT drill through your bases - Goodluck!

**This post was edited on Nov 1st 2017 at 3:48:49pm
 
13850801:cawille said:
I was in the same boat, bought some brand new Vishnu's and look pivots. Best price for a local shop to mount was $70.

Obviously I didn't wanna fuck up, but one day I just decided I was going to do it, printed out paper jigs, tripled checked EVERYTHING before drilling and then went for it. My boots literally fit perfect. Can't for the snow to try them out.

Take your time, its really not hard, just make sure your center mounting line is actually centered on the ski, and DONT drill through your bases - Goodluck!

**This post was edited on Nov 1st 2017 at 3:48:49pm
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Thank you man, i will!
 
Get them mounted from a certified tech at a shop. That binding doesn't have the same forward pressure as other bindings as well as a tricky heel piece to mount. Kinda tricky. It can obviously be done by a normal person, but for liability purposes i would take it to a shop. I have mounted two pairs of pivots on my skis, but that was with my techs guidance and help
 
if I'm getting brand new skis, I'm gonna pay the extra $30-70 bucks to make sure they are mounted right. rather do that then mess up a mount and ruin a brand new ski
 
13851142:RoyalWithCheese said:
Get them mounted from a certified tech at a shop. That binding doesn't have the same forward pressure as other bindings as well as a tricky heel piece to mount. Kinda tricky. It can obviously be done by a normal person, but for liability purposes i would take it to a shop. I have mounted two pairs of pivots on my skis, but that was with my techs guidance and help
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Liability purposes? The shop isn't going to cover a ripped out binding or a broken knee. The only thing your paying for is a binding mount. As soon as you walk out the door they are no longer responsible.

What else do you feel a ski shop is liable for other than mounting your bindings correctly ?
 
13851162:cawille said:
Liability purposes? The shop isn't going to cover a ripped out binding or a broken knee. The only thing your paying for is a binding mount. As soon as you walk out the door they are no longer responsible.

What else do you feel a ski shop is liable for other than mounting your bindings correctly ?
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I’ve been the main ski tech at the shop I work at for the past 3 years or so and you’re 50/50 on this statement, you pay the Shop to mount your stuff right. But if the Shop fucks up your skis mounting them more than likely you’re getting new skis and if you do manage to hurt yourself the and the bindings weren’t set up properly when they leave the shop you can sue the fuck out of the shop so there’s definitely benefits to getting your stuff done in a shop. Do have to give you props though I’m impressed they came out so well for just using a paper template 🤙🏼
 
13851277:The_Real_EWilly said:
I’ve been the main ski tech at the shop I work at for the past 3 years or so and you’re 50/50 on this statement, you pay the Shop to mount your stuff right. But if the Shop fucks up your skis mounting them more than likely you’re getting new skis and if you do manage to hurt yourself the and the bindings weren’t set up properly when they leave the shop you can sue the fuck out of the shop so there’s definitely benefits to getting your stuff done in a shop. Do have to give you props though I’m impressed they came out so well for just using a paper template 🤙🏼
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Thanks man it was definitely nerve racking! nobody wants to fuck up their new shit doing it themselves.

But back to the original question, I understand the point you’re making but I just feel like sueing would not work. A concrete defense that the shop would play is - Ex: How could the plaintiff prove the skier didn’t crank their DIN, seriously injure themselves, then adjust the DIN back to what the shop originally set it at. There would be no proof that the DIN was never adjusted and thus I feel the shop would never end up getting sued.

Being at a shop for a few years you’ve must have had someone come in a try to pull something like this off, how’d the situation pan out lol
 
13851283:cawille said:
Thanks man it was definitely nerve racking! nobody wants to fuck up their new shit doing it themselves.

But back to the original question, I understand the point you’re making but I just feel like sueing would not work. A concrete defense that the shop would play is - Ex: How could the plaintiff prove the skier didn’t crank their DIN, seriously injure themselves, then adjust the DIN back to what the shop originally set it at. There would be no proof that the DIN was never adjusted and thus I feel the shop would never end up getting sued.

Being at a shop for a few years you’ve must have had someone come in a try to pull something like this off, how’d the situation pan out lol
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If your forward pressure is wrong, then then the binding won't release properly. I'd bet you dont knowthe proper way to set up a pivot binding.

Did you mount them to your proper BSL? And did you seal the holes with a water proof glue or epoxy?
 
13851807:Gnarco said:
If your forward pressure is wrong, then then the binding won't release properly. I'd bet you dont knowthe proper way to set up a pivot binding.

Did you mount them to your proper BSL? And did you seal the holes with a water proof glue or epoxy?
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Yes I did mount at the proper BSL, along with a lavish amount of waterproof wood glue in every hole. Trust me, I did my research and plenty of reading prior to drilling into my brand new skis, along with watching about 10 how to videos.
 
My last 2 pair of skis I mounted myself, most recently a pair of vishnu's with FKS's. Tbh I'll probably mount my own skis from here out, at first yes its a little nerve wracking. Just be sure to take your time. Measure everything, a good tip is too drop your screws into your unmounted bindings take a look a the bottom where the screw sticks out, take the bit you'll be using, hold it up next to the screw and tape off the bit (electrical tape works best). This will really help you avoid drilling through your base.

I also use loctite 277 in the holes, that shit works great.

With the right tools its a pretty easy job, take your time. Good luck!
 
13861802:jaco.beann said:
somebody PLEASE tell me how to check forward pressure on pivots???
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I can't tell you cause I'm a tard with that stuff and never bothered to learn but if you just google site:Newschoolers.com + how to forward pressure pivots im positive you'll find some helpful threads. It's a popular question
 
13851283:cawille said:
But back to the original question, I understand the point you’re making but I just feel like sueing would not work. A concrete defense that the shop would play is - Ex: How could the plaintiff prove the skier didn’t crank their DIN, seriously injure themselves, then adjust the DIN back to what the shop originally set it at. There would be no proof that the DIN was never adjusted and thus I feel the shop would never end up getting sued.

Being at a shop for a few years you’ve must have had someone come in a try to pull something like this off, how’d the situation pan out lol
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This would be the question for the judge and or jury to decide...who is more believable? We're talking civil court not criminal so the burden of proof isn't "beyond reasonable doubt" It kind of gets to one of the basic premise of our legal system.
 
13851283:cawille said:
Thanks man it was definitely nerve racking! nobody wants to fuck up their new shit doing it themselves.

But back to the original question, I understand the point you’re making but I just feel like sueing would not work. A concrete defense that the shop would play is - Ex: How could the plaintiff prove the skier didn’t crank their DIN, seriously injure themselves, then adjust the DIN back to what the shop originally set it at. There would be no proof that the DIN was never adjusted and thus I feel the shop would never end up getting sued.

Being at a shop for a few years you’ve must have had someone come in a try to pull something like this off, how’d the situation pan out lol
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If your broken ass is hauled off the hill by ski patrol, part of their assessment is to check what your bindings were set at. Should legal proceedings occur, that report becomes evidence. That evidence can then be cross referenced with the tech's workorder at the shop. If the two don't match up, shop is not liable. If they do match up, the shop is covered by the binding manufacturer's insurance policy. This is why shop techs have to be certified and bindings have a life expectancy (indemnification).
 
so today i mounted the bindings by myself. not at a ski shop, MYSELF! it worked out perfect.

Picks or it didn't happen:
 
So yeah, I know this is an old thread, but be an artist or at least not a total dumbass and you can do it. If you're lucky like me you won't even need an internet template, you can trace a pattern off another pair of your own skis. Line up the center, and here's the key to not drilling through your skis: measure the depth, mark it on the drill bit with a sharpie, and electric tape around the bit a bunch until it's about 2x it's width. This will set your depth and keep you from fucking it up. #woodglue #deckscrews.
 
13957927:chicken said:
I always LOL when people think somehow a paper template is less accurate than a shop jig.
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I can only see it being more accurate in the sense that it keeps your drilling true, with a paper jig you can wonk out the angle if you're not paying attention.
 
13957927:chicken said:
I always LOL when people think somehow a paper template is less accurate than a shop jig.
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No less accurate but the potential for user error is much higher...
 
shoutout on3p

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