Most bombproof park ski

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CUSHKOMA

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I know that no ski is indestructible especially if you’re hitting rails constantly but I’m a little frustrated as I’ve just busted my second pair of ARV 96s in the last year. Although it’s been my favorite park ski performance wise it just doesn’t hold up as well as I’d hoped it would. That being said, I’m in the market for a new park ski and am wondering what would be a good option that holds up well. My three choices as of right now are the K2 Poacher, J Allplay, or ON3P Jeffery 96. Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.
 
Can't go wrong with ON3P. Getting the factory park detune will help your edges handle rail abuse better as well.
 
I’m pretty biased but the poacher is pretty bomb proof haven’t seen one break in person. Heard of edges going after a solid 3 years of abuse but nothing else. They are stiffer more stable park skis not gonna be very butterable unless you have speed. The ON3P is also really durable from what Ik and have heard from people that ride them still a bit stiffer than an arv96 but def not as stiff as the poacher. It’s up to you from there, I recommend trying to find a demo of one of them.
 
topic:CUSHKOMA said:
I know that no ski is indestructible especially if you’re hitting rails constantly but I’m a little frustrated as I’ve just busted my second pair of ARV 96s in the last year. Although it’s been my favorite park ski performance wise it just doesn’t hold up as well as I’d hoped it would. That being said, I’m in the market for a new park ski and am wondering what would be a good option that holds up well. My three choices as of right now are the K2 Poacher, J Allplay, or ON3P Jeffery 96. Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.
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There is no "most" bomb proof ski.

1: you need to tune it for park rails.

2: you need to slam rails less hard, be smoother. Plus your joints will last longer too.
 
14207607:WoFlowz said:
I’m pretty biased but the poacher is pretty bomb proof haven’t seen one break in person. Heard of edges going after a solid 3 years of abuse but nothing else. They are stiffer more stable park skis not gonna be very butterable unless you have speed. The ON3P is also really durable from what Ik and have heard from people that ride them still a bit stiffer than an arv96 but def not as stiff as the poacher. It’s up to you from there, I recommend trying to find a demo of one of them.
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Ha ha! Ride a demo ski on rails! You gonna' have to buy it after that!
 
yo how much does regular rail skiing destroy your ski? Is having a ski you can lap parks with and then take on big mountain later in the season asking too much?
 
Unfortunately I have to disagree... My 20/21 poachers have cracks in all four edges under the bindings. First crack appeared in two weeks after I bought them and I got the detuned by a experienced ski shop. Was really bummed as I also thought they would've been more "bomb proof". I still ski and enjoy the skis but they're mostly held up together by epoxy only after month of owning them. Only skied them on early season park, so a lot of rails and few jumps.

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14207607:WoFlowz said:
I’m pretty biased but the poacher is pretty bomb proof haven’t seen one break in person. Heard of edges going after a solid 3 years of abuse but nothing else. They are stiffer more stable park skis not gonna be very butterable unless you have speed. The ON3P is also really durable from what Ik and have heard from people that ride them still a bit stiffer than an arv96 but def not as stiff as the poacher. It’s up to you from there, I recommend trying to find a demo of one of them.
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Have you tried claiming warranty? I got arv96 two years ago and I just got my second free pair for breaking the sidewall. I'm basically sponsored now.
 
14207660:DominatorJacques said:
There is no "most" bomb proof ski.

1: you need to tune it for park rails.

2: you need to slam rails less hard, be smoother. Plus your joints will last longer too.
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I’m well aware that there is no “most” bombproof park ski, that was just slang for something more durable. I understand the importance of keeping light feet on rails, the problem is I’m a big dude (6’4” 210lbs) so my skis take on more of a beating due to my size.
 
14207783:CUSHKOMA said:
I’m well aware that there is no “most” bombproof park ski, that was just slang for something more durable. I understand the importance of keeping light feet on rails, the problem is I’m a big dude (6’4” 210lbs) so my skis take on more of a beating due to my size.
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Well, there is that, so I feel your pain. No disrespect.
 
Check out the moment frankenski. I dont have experience with it directly but my new moment pb&js have been awesome skiing over rocks early season. I only have tiny scratches after hitting alot of snow sharks. My brothers volkls got a shit ton of scratches compared to my moments after skiing together all day. Not really a long term review but so far the durability is good for all the rails and rock ive hit this year.
 
14207739:Adolf_Skitler said:
Have you tried claiming warranty? I got arv96 two years ago and I just got my second free pair for breaking the sidewall. I'm basically sponsored now.
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I tried claiming warranty. This is what they replied: "Unfortunately is this kind of damage (broken edge due to external forces) not covered from the warranty of the manufacturer."
 
14207724:FruitBootPro said:
yo how much does regular rail skiing destroy your ski? Is having a ski you can lap parks with and then take on big mountain later in the season asking too much?
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It really depends on what regular rail skiing means to you. If its mostly pvc pipes and some mellow metal rails I wouldn't consider it to be too much asked but then again if regular rail skiing includes big disasters and slamming hard on to rails it probably is.
 
I have ridden poachers and i’m riding some kartels 108 rn. Both feel bombproof. My poschers lasted 2 seasons and 3 pairs of bindings. Would have still been able to ride them if i could remount them center.

Just about every on3p ski i have been on have felt very durable *cough* both my buddys k96, bg and even the magnuses i managed to break.
 
14208640:lil.Boye said:
I have ridden poachers and i’m riding some kartels 108 rn. Both feel bombproof. My poschers lasted 2 seasons and 3 pairs of bindings. Would have still been able to ride them if i could remount them center.

Just about every on3p ski i have been on have felt very durable *cough* both my buddys k96, bg and even the magnuses i managed to break.
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You went through three pairs of bindings in two years??? What bindings and what part broke?
 
14364505:little_Jibbah said:
You went through three pairs of bindings in two years??? What bindings and what part broke?
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Salomon sth. back spring ripped out of the binding.

look pivot 14. the plate that spins with the dildo broke.

marker griffon. The brake stem(?) pulled out and broke the montingplate.

only binding i have never broken is the attack 2. just bent brakes.
 
14365194:lil.Boye said:
Salomon sth. back spring ripped out of the binding.

look pivot 14. the plate that spins with the dildo broke.

marker griffon. The brake stem(?) pulled out and broke the montingplate.

only binding i have never broken is the attack 2. just bent brakes.
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Damn, you must go big!
 
on3ps break as fast as any other ski they just have indestructible sidewalls and great bases. Find any on3p rail skier and they won't have edges underfoot.
 
14365194:lil.Boye said:
Salomon sth. back spring ripped out of the binding.

look pivot 14. the plate that spins with the dildo broke.

marker griffon. The brake stem(?) pulled out and broke the montingplate.

only binding i have never broken is the attack 2. just bent brakes.
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Salomon bindings suck I’ve broken 3 STHs and a pair of Wardons
 
jester 16/18

pivot 15/18

Talking about breaking bindings thats made of plastic isnt wowie, I did just have a dude break a brake on a jester, but thats because his buddy landed on his ski as he wiped on the rail. (skiiing to close)

Also if you mount with inserts or such you can service stuff, and if you ripout bindings etc, you can usually put a binding freedom insert in/ quiver killer
 
All edges crack, you’ll lose edges if you hit rails or rocks quickly especially if you’re trying to progress.

the best bases and sidewall are On3p, icelantic are also tuff as hell, armada are also not bad

I’ve skied On3p, armada, line, vishnu(bought used and they were already clapped so I have no input), and icelantic and they all lasted well except line delamed
 
14366632:DominatorJacques said:
Hmmmm...somehow I don't see that.

How about you?
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It was a reference to an old thread he made where he snapped his new on3ps by skiing into a ditch and the thread was really big and controversial and there were stickers made about it and stuff, I think the thread has been deleted but everyone’s a good sport about it now
 
14366646:drifts said:
It was a reference to an old thread he made where he snapped his new on3ps by skiing into a ditch and the thread was really big and controversial and there were stickers made about it and stuff, I think the thread has been deleted but everyone’s a good sport about it now
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Thanks for the info. Shows there are no truly "Bombproof" skis.
 
I must say on3p has gone down in durability I still ride my k2 public enemies and maybe have 2 edge cracks just bought poachers and feel like they followed the public enemy build good ski for price point

14208640:lil.Boye said:
I have ridden poachers and i’m riding some kartels 108 rn. Both feel bombproof. My poschers lasted 2 seasons and 3 pairs of bindings. Would have still been able to ride them if i could remount them center.

Just about every on3p ski i have been on have felt very durable *cough* both my buddys k96, bg and even the magnuses i managed to break.
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14400027:Skimanbill said:
I must say on3p has gone down in durability I still ride my k2 public enemies and maybe have 2 edge cracks just bought poachers and feel like they followed the public enemy build good ski for price point
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damn, sad to hear, only had on3p from before 2018. my 2017 kartel 108 have been to hell and back and still as solid as the day i bought them second hand. edges are beat but expected after heavy rail use. topsheet got only small chips and less than expected
 
I feel you I had the filthy riches snapped the Tip of those I had the magnus 102 delam and edges came out. Had kartel 98s and lasted 2 season before the tails delam and the kartel 108 I had I hit a tree Stump and destroyed a ski. I ski moderately hard but I can't keep spending the prices they want for a ski so I look for price point at this point looking to sell my poachers have less then 10 days on them and want to go more bdog or edollo. I want a softer tip

14400031:lil.Boye said:
damn, sad to hear, only had on3p from before 2018. my 2017 kartel 108 have been to hell and back and still as solid as the day i bought them second hand. edges are beat but expected after heavy rail use. topsheet got only small chips and less than expected
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Perhaps “Bombproof” wasn’t the most appropriate term I should’ve used when creating this thread. I should’ve went for Durable instead, my bad.

14400343:DominatorJacques said:
Again, there is no "bomb-proof" skis made anywhere!
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14400584:CUSHKOMA said:
Perhaps “Bombproof” wasn’t the most appropriate term I should’ve used when creating this thread. I should’ve went for Durable instead, my bad.
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Where would the fun be in that? No bad.
 
on3p durability has not changed at all. on3ps durability still blows k2s away, you get what you pay for

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5 pair shot in 2 seasons all properly detuned and taken care all were sent back to get fixed by them and they said the Core was shot or couldn't repair. Luckily they hooked me up with 50 percent off but same thing happened

14400811:Steezy-K said:
on3p durability has not changed at all. on3ps durability still blows k2s away, you get what you pay for

**This post was edited on Feb 19th 2022 at 12:34:55pm
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Some people just need to learn how to be smoother getting on to rails.

Some folks have no issues with whatever they ride, while other break everything they ride.

It's not always the ski, it's the skier.
 
14400817:DominatorJacques said:
Some people just need to learn how to be smoother getting on to rails.

Some folks have no issues with whatever they ride, while other break everything they ride.

It's not always the ski, it's the skier.
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Sometimes you just have to find the common denominator...
 
14400813:Skimanbill said:
5 pair shot in 2 seasons all properly detuned and taken care all were sent back to get fixed by them and they said the Core was shot or couldn't repair. Luckily they hooked me up with 50 percent off but same thing happened
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sounds like you get edge cracks and don't fill em with epoxy. leading to water getting to the core and ruining the ski quickly.

Most skis can last multiple seasons unless you ski hard as absolute hell and snap a ski.
 
14400811:Steezy-K said:
on3p durability has not changed at all. on3ps durability still blows k2s away, you get what you pay for

**This post was edited on Feb 19th 2022 at 12:34:55pm
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you pay 750 dollars for your underfoot edges to fall out right way, but at least you have that cool green base!
 
I took care of them as soon as possible but ice coast and really shitty conditions in pa skiing they got beat to hell especially skiing em in the streets

14400897:wideassboi said:
sounds like you get edge cracks and don't fill em with epoxy. leading to water getting to the core and ruining the ski quickly.

Most skis can last multiple seasons unless you ski hard as absolute hell and snap a ski.
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14400970:wideassboi said:
did you not take care of your edges as they fell out?
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