SirFryanator
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I just smoked weed. that's all I got out of your inb4 post
Morality is relative: athiests follow the teachings of jesus (article/blog post I found)
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If prison is "bad" then going free is "good" by the prisoners dilemma analogy. I was rushed typing that out at breakfast at work, I can explain it better now... probably.
When they pitted the programs against each other, they tallied up who the total prison time each program accumulated from its strategy. Tit for Tat consistently got the lowest amount of prison time.
So say a program accumulates the moderate amount of prison time. It is assigned three "offspring" programs, that go on to the next round, exact copies of itself. Its almost as if the programs were instead biological creatures. Tit for Tat, a successful program that gets little prison time, gets 6 offspring, and so on. Take the offspring programs, run them against each other, at random, for 100 turns, loser with the most prison time is eliminated. Tit for tat wins far above any other type of program in this 'programs with babies' simulation. Tit for Tat with the 9/10 rule... wins almost every time, against almost any field of competing programs.
Sorta spooky how the first computers were used as analogs for species and evolution.
So take this behavior out to species. Being... "Jesus"-like, or eye for an eye, but always showing a bit of kindness to start, ultimately wins... so is it any surprise we have these motivations and leanings towards being nice to other humans in our lifetime, even though in many cases one could be more successful by a purely cutthroat strategy. Its a strategy that wins over a long time on a species rather than individual level.
Our behaviors are there for a reason, but its a biological one. My sense of morality is defined because its the way of thinking that has led the human species to success.
And Jesus had some great ideas, but attributing all that to one man's inspiration, divine or otherwise, is sorta crazy. Behavior has constantly been evolving in our species, and changes on an evolutionary scale are incredibly tiny over eons of time.
When they pitted the programs against each other, they tallied up who the total prison time each program accumulated from its strategy. Tit for Tat consistently got the lowest amount of prison time.
So say a program accumulates the moderate amount of prison time. It is assigned three "offspring" programs, that go on to the next round, exact copies of itself. Its almost as if the programs were instead biological creatures. Tit for Tat, a successful program that gets little prison time, gets 6 offspring, and so on. Take the offspring programs, run them against each other, at random, for 100 turns, loser with the most prison time is eliminated. Tit for tat wins far above any other type of program in this 'programs with babies' simulation. Tit for Tat with the 9/10 rule... wins almost every time, against almost any field of competing programs.
Sorta spooky how the first computers were used as analogs for species and evolution.
So take this behavior out to species. Being... "Jesus"-like, or eye for an eye, but always showing a bit of kindness to start, ultimately wins... so is it any surprise we have these motivations and leanings towards being nice to other humans in our lifetime, even though in many cases one could be more successful by a purely cutthroat strategy. Its a strategy that wins over a long time on a species rather than individual level.
Our behaviors are there for a reason, but its a biological one. My sense of morality is defined because its the way of thinking that has led the human species to success.
And Jesus had some great ideas, but attributing all that to one man's inspiration, divine or otherwise, is sorta crazy. Behavior has constantly been evolving in our species, and changes on an evolutionary scale are incredibly tiny over eons of time.
Yung_Gnarley
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Jesus was a fat, stinky Pagan goonman.
Fuck, I think I lost a paragraph when I was reordering things. If that doesnt make sense, I'm sorry, I'll try again.