Montana State University
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jorgensonjac
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I'm in my junior year at Westminster college. Bunch of my homies came out here to salt lake from the east and either go here or Utah. super sick ski school.
SendyMcSendyface
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uni is a fuckin waste dont do it
dolanslebensraum
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Op are your scores not high enough for UC boulder?
from what ive heard boulder is like a drug infested utopia
from what ive heard boulder is like a drug infested utopia
ReturnToMonkey
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14056744:DolanReloaded said:
Boulder isnt that close to good skiing compared to msu and u of u (eldora, but I said good skiing) and also it's expensive af if you're out of state.
MountainInMyMind
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pm me man! i'm a junior here in bozeman and am in a skiing/sledding squad. happy to answer any questions you've got about the school!
whiteboi
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Bridger bowl and bozeman both suck, dont come here.
I'm 100% kidding, MSU is great and everything about this place is the tits. I'm a sophomore here and it's about the most ideal place for a skier or any sort of outdoor enthusiast to go to college. I go to school full time and am in a considerably difficult major and was able to ski upwards of 90 days last year between BBowl and the backcountry. 10/10 would recommend
I'm 100% kidding, MSU is great and everything about this place is the tits. I'm a sophomore here and it's about the most ideal place for a skier or any sort of outdoor enthusiast to go to college. I go to school full time and am in a considerably difficult major and was able to ski upwards of 90 days last year between BBowl and the backcountry. 10/10 would recommend
MountainInMyMind
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14056750:whiteboi said:
this^ i'm a neuroscience major and i skied 155 days last year between bridger and the backcountry
dolanslebensraum
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14056747:FlorescentBone said:
Oh. I didnt know you were in stat at montana u.
Yeah boulder is like the go to college for rich out of staters. Isnt it easier to get into boulder if you are out of state too? I heard they had lower standards for out of state than in state because they want to collect the huge out of state tuition. Is this true?
ReturnToMonkey
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14056753:DolanReloaded said:
No idea if it's true, but I wouldn't be surprised
Freeskiinart024
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John is that you?
14056752:GeorgeWBush said:
MountainInMyMind
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14056779:Freeskiinart024 said:
haha yeah who dis?
Freeskiinart024
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Haha Evan from the courage classic
fries
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MSU is incredible. Lots of on campus resources as far as tutoring, counseling, and just about anything you could need. Everyone is pretty chill. Dining halls are nationally awarded. And you're 20 minutes away from bridger.
Unless you have a really good reason not to come here, go for it. Last year I was choosing between MSU and a handful of other schools in oregon/washington/colorado and I'm so glad I chose MSU.
Unless you have a really good reason not to come here, go for it. Last year I was choosing between MSU and a handful of other schools in oregon/washington/colorado and I'm so glad I chose MSU.
Gnar_Shralp406
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topic:P.O.W. said:
Ya man, shits the shit. Winter out here is like Cabo on Spring Break.
Gnar_Shralp406
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14056752:GeorgeWBush said:
Is that a lot?
ChadThundercock
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Just start slinging cocaine brother
quixotic
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I would recommend going to the best university you can and then taking a hiatus from life after and get some committed shred in then. The brand of your school and the network associated with it is what you are paying for. Paying for a weak brand in the mountains will detract from your career trajectory.
PeppermillReno
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14057144:quixotic said:
Not really. You can get good grades at these easier schools and go to a good grad school.
My mom refused to let me attend MSU for architecture (I was doing a drafting class in HS) didn't think it was good enough. Long story short no way I could have done engineering where I went it was too hard and I'm starting an architectural drafting certificate course in a couple weeks because I'm in construction yet have no training. Montana St for architecture would have been a really really smart choice.
MountainInMyMind
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14057144:quixotic said:
For those like myself with a path that includes years of post-college education, saving money on an undergrad degree is huge. msu is far more affordable than comparable universities such as CU boulder even for colorado residents. I got into brown and other ivys, and still chose msu and i haven't regretted it a bit. in fact, i have been the only non-ivy league student selected to the CUSP biomedical research internship program for three consecutive years.
also, life is too fucking short to work now and then try and shred hard at 50 years old after retirement. if your body is in peak condition at 20 years old, then you gotta take advantage of that and shred every single day while you can
quixotic
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14057163:PeppermillReno said:
So you are agreeing with me... 'The bachelor's from that school won't cut it, *but* if you do go there you can go to a better grad school to get the better brand name'. This is exactly what I said. That degree will detract from your trajectory. To fix this trajectory, you must now go to a better grad school.
14057191:GeorgeWBush said:
I said finish school and then go shred, not wait until you are 50. Delaying living in the mountains for four years in trade for a solid education so well worth it. Damn near everyone I know that picked a University based on its proximity to skiing ended up failing out of school or put themselves on the 7+ year plan. Just get a good education in a timely fashion and then go be a bum for 3-5 years. You'll have a solid education to fall back on and then be able to begin a great career.
snowmosexual
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14057202:Jems said:
Most ski at Bridger cause its 30 minutes from town and much easier to get to before/after class *typo
**This post was edited on Sep 8th 2019 at 6:58:38pm
ReturnToMonkey
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14057200:quixotic said:
Uhh I'd say 90% of my friends chose msu because of skiing and most of them are doing just fine. In fact the only ones who've dropped out did so for things unrelated to skiing
snowmosexual
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14057200:quixotic said:
Not bad advice, but some people don't want to miss out on prime years of skiing. Also the school you go to does not correlate with the level of career you have. The only job that cares about what which school you went to is your first job. I guess if you go to harvard or some shit you get job offers on a silver platter, but any other state school it really doesn't matter much.
loadedburrito
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montana goes crazy
14056743:SendyMcSendyface said:
Why?
You don't know how good of a student he is, or whether or not his parents are paying. If he can graduate with no student loan debt why wouldn't he go? For people who are bad students, who also lack financial support, college might not make sense. It does not make sense to incur a ton of student loan debt if you are not going to make a good enough living to to pay it off, for poor students without financial means a trade is probably a better option. But most of the high paying jobs in this country require a degree. I could not do what I do without a college degree, or a graduate degree for that matter. If you want to live in a ski town and be a carpenter, nothing wrong with that, then it might not make sense to go to school unless your parents are paying for it.
It would probably make sense to ask some reasonable questions before simply making a blanket statement like this. You need to know how much debt he will incur and what his goals are before you make this statement.
IanAvery-Leaf
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14056849:J_S said:
lmao what? Don't get me wrong I enjoyed my MSU/Bozeman experience, but the dining halls were firmly at the bottom of the list. Hopefully things have changed since '13/14 but Miller was trash during my year there
ReturnToMonkey
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14057767:IanAvery-Leaf said:
Miller got refurbished, rendezvous was built, and they're building a new one. This was all recently
dolanslebensraum
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14057191:GeorgeWBush said:
Claiming getting into ivy league schools and deferring is pretty weak sauce bro. Im personally not doubting you but you are joining a clan of collossal dipshits who claim they got into ivies and didnt go who are full of shit. If you were as smart as you want people to think you are by claiming you stood up the ivies, you probably would have just said “fuck it i dont feel like having every person i meet in my life think im full of shit saying i deferred the ivies, so im just going to go ahead and go to one of the ivies”.
But you didnt, so its probly better you stop claiming that. You would have met alot of very smart very interesting (and very connected) people at a good ivy league school, and your decision not to take advantage of that opportunity (if you really had it) kinda makes you look like an ass hat.
Acceptance letters from great colleges are like the golden ticket in willy wonkas chocolate factory, you dont ask, you just go, otherwise youre an idiot.
MountainInMyMind
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14058086:DolanReloaded said:
I simply mentioned the fact that I got into brown to give context as to how awesome msu is to have won me over.
I am going to medical school ($300+k) after college, so saving money on my undergrad was a big priority for me when I made my college decision. I am a presidential scholar at msu and pay no tuition or fees, receive a stipend every semester, and get priority scheduling. Versus attending brown, receiving very little financial aid and taking on massive debt, not to mention not being able to ski or sled to the degree that it possible in bozeman. I’m sure it would be understandable for someone who was in a different situation or had different career aspirations to make a different choice.
As I said earlier in this thread, life is way too short to be unhappy. I personally knew that I would be unhappy at an ivy league school as soon as I visited. I had the exact opposite feeling when I visited bozeman and realized I could ski and sled everyday, all while studying neuroscience at no cost.
14058086:DolanReloaded said:
Actually, that is one of the worst possible reasons I can possibly think of for attending an Ivy. Why the fuck would anyone with a brain care whether people think they are full of shit for claiming to have gotten into an Ivy? Attending a school you don't want to attend so that you can avoid people not believing you actually got into it is incredibly stupid.
If one gets into an Ivy and wants to go that is fine. I did not look at any of them, I had no interest in going to school back east. If one gets into an Ivy and wants to go because they think the connections are simply too strong to turn down, I can see the logic in that. But to go to an Ivy simply because you don't want people to not believe you when you tell them you got in is idiocy. In fact, that is one of the stupidest things I have read on this website, which speaks volumes.
I went to a public Ivy, a UC system school. I got wait listed at Stanford. I did not try to get off the wait list, I decided I would rather go to the school I ended up attending. I got into other schools which were ranked slightly higher, some which were borderline Ivy. I chose to go to one of the best public universities in the country, a place where I could also learn to surf, live in a great environment with great people and ski Mammoth at least a couple of weekends a month. Granted, I had to drive a TON to hit Mammoth, but it was great deciding between skiing Mammoth for the weekend and surfing and partying with hot girls. That is most certainly a first world problem. I got a degree in statistics, took a few years in Tahoe, then got an M.S. in stats from another UC school. I like my job and get paid very well. I still get to ski about 40 days a year at Mammoth and I surf most mornings before work.
The Ivies are not quite as much of a golden ticket as you may think. There are lots of great schools in the country, and there are also lots of very good schools where you can end up doing just as well as you would at an Ivy. Granted, if you want to be an investment banker at Goldman Sachs you may well need an Ivy (or Ivy level) degree or advanced degree, but I have no interest in working in New York.
You can believe this, or not, but I probably could have gotten into Yale if I had really wanted to go. My academic record, though excellent, was not quite Yale level, but my SAT scores were above the median there and generations of my family have gone there. I don't know for sure whether or not I would have gotten in, we have not given them significant amounts of money, but I had other cousins who had similar academic records and similar board scores who did get in, so it would have been very possible. Like I said before, I had absolutely no interest in going. Now, had I been interested in law school and gotten into Yale THAT might have been tough to turn down, you can always go back out to California, but I would not have gone there for undergrad.
Ivy schools can be great places to make connections, but they are not the golden ticket you might think they are. Lots of people go to schools which are slight tick below and end up doing very well. If you go to Yale and get a 2.1 you will have a tough time going to med school.
14058150:GeorgeWBush said:
While I was not a fan of the 43rd President, this reply is ASTRONOMICALLY more rational than the post it references. I can actually conceive that the author of this post MIGHT be intelligent enough to be accepted at an Ivy. The person dubya is responding to comes off as someone who completely lacks the reasoning skills to attend an Ivy without having a relative who gave around 70 million to the school, and possibly not even then. One of my best friends in boarding school had a grand father who gave around 70 million to Harvard. He was exactly the type of person people attend Harvard to meet. He was a pretty good student, although far from Harvard level. He attended Tulane. Honestly, when you have a boathouse in Central Park named after your family there is really no reason to attend Harvard unless you want to.
GeorgeWBush,
Your reasoning is completely logical and rational. Also, being a Dr. can be a GREAT way to have a great life. One of my cousins is a pathologist at Stanford. He paid his dues, boarding school at Groton, Yale and then Columbia for medical school, but until he had kids he skied around 60 days a year. He is older than me, and when I lived in Tahoe we skied together all the time. He got 3 months a year off, he would ski just about every weekend in Tahoe, and additionally take a full month off, usually from mid-February to mid-March. In the summer he likes to windsurf, he used to be able to do back flips on his windsurfer. He had kids, so now he skis far less, but I always tease him that he had things really dialed before his kids were born. He actually was going to choose brain pathology, but then Stanford told him they would not be able to give him as much time off so he stuck to general pathology. Good luck, and keep working hard. You are setting yourself up to have some very good options in life.
dolanslebensraum
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14058150:GeorgeWBush said:
14058188:dan4060 said:
14058191:dan4060 said:
Ok im tired of being respectful. All 3 of you are full of shit. At princeton i met, engaged with, and interacted with people that are a far higher caliber than the avg joe at a school like msu or any non ivy besides stanford and cal tech. This microcosm at a place like princeton challenges you and tests you in ways avg colleges atmospheres simply wont. Being around people with 130 140 150 iqs for 4 years is simply something that it takes alot of intelligence to see the value in. You guys obviously werent smart enough to get accepted to a real ivy (brown and columbia and penn dont count) because if you were then youd also be smart enough to fucking go and not miss the amazing opportunity to challenge and grow your brain at a far faster rate during critical development years of young adulthood.
This larping shit is hilarious. If you didnt go to harvard yale or princeton, then nobody cares. You guys literally think you can climb on the shoulders of HYP and say “sorry im too good for you, im gonna just go hangout with pc frat bros at some no name school with shit professors and ill just tell everybody i got into ivies but didnt feel like going.
Again, if you want ppl to believe you were smart enough to get into harvard yale or princeton, then telling them you rejected them makes you look like your totally full of shit. And they would probably be right.
Keep larping though, you losers.
**This post was edited on Sep 12th 2019 at 9:57:54am
MountainInMyMind
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14058191:dan4060 said:
Appreciate that brotha! the world needs more positivity like that. keep being you man!
Liam_j10
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This was pretty much me in high school. UC boulder is honestly pretty far from good skiing and way too expensive. Montana state didn't feel like it offered the academics I was looking for. Im in my second year at Utah and couldn't have made a better decision. Beautiful campus, academics are great and on the rise, mountain biking within minutes away, and more importantly great ski culture with arguably the US's best skiing within a half hour drive. I got 70+ days last year without a car, too many deep days to count. Pac 12 sports are also a blast
**This post was edited on Sep 12th 2019 at 2:57:28pm
**This post was edited on Sep 12th 2019 at 2:57:28pm
Young_patty
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14057767:IanAvery-Leaf said:
I dare u to come around Miller and say that while I'm cooking on the mongolian bbq grill
Butterytips69
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14058334:Young_patty said:
Bruh the Mongo bowls are so tight, but every time I have one I feel like I'm gonna drop dead from all the sodium.
Young_patty
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14058385:Butterytips69 said:
the key is lots of veggies and a heart amount of sauce
also the imitation crab is just colored cod and comes on bricks so that could be it
dolanslebensraum
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Ah the silence is deafening. Game set match dolan