monkey steeze and steeze in general-my opinion

h3ofilms

Active member
I keep reading posts about 'steeze' and I just had to put my two cents in, because it seems like thats all people talk about these days.

I've seen numerous kids in park trying to emulate Tanner Hall and his 'monkey' or 'gorilla' steeze, because they think he is an innovator or something. This to me has to be the worst thing for skiing. These kids can varely ski, yet they want to break down the actual technical park of skiing and immitate someone else.

You think someone like Tanner skis the entire mtn with this 'steeze'? NO...yet i see kids trying to freeride with their arms down below their knees. Its rediculous to look at and bad in general.

Being brought up in a race backround (im sure this part will get 'your gay' and 'fuck racer' responses from everyone that reads this) I cant stress enough the importance of all around SOUND skiing. Im not going through the park in a race tuck, or anywhere else on the mtn for that matter. I dont race anymore. What im saying is that without a good BASE of skiing knowledge, this steeze is actually holding the sport BACK. There are so many kids that are decent skiers in the park, but if you take them freeriding, its comical at best.

I know not everyone falls into this category. I just hate reading about this all the time, kids thinking its sick or great. Skiing isnt about being something your not or trying to use someones style. Skiing is probably the most independent, FREE sport around. Learn a style that works for you

ive heard numerous times that I have 'race steeze' or something like that. Ive been called 'gay' because on the way to the park, ill really lay over my skis and carve a turn. Just because im not holding my hands below my knees and smearing my turns, im automatically 'gay' or not a 'newschooler', which is as far from the truth as possible.

Sorry for the giant rant, but seriously everybody, DONT get roped into steezes. Its just not good for skiing in general. Ever see McConkey or Morrison use steeze during big mtn skiing? Do you actually see Tanner Hall or anyone else that actually skis use a steeze during freeriding, DOUBTFUL

I know this is gonna get me blasted by everyone for being 'gay', but take my word for it. Develop a good technical riding ability, then if you want to use steeze in the park, by all means DO IT. Just learn to ski before you copy someone. Progress the sport, just dont immitate something you see on a video/

 
Steeze is just another word for style. Its a stupid word because it sounds like Sneeze. Achoo. It is important to be able to ski but why does it matter how we do it? If kids want to look like idiots with there hands over there knees its fine.

My girlfriend told me to shove my skis up my ass
 
well i hope you really enjoyed typing that. i only read the 1st and last paragraphs and you right the style is poor while yourin the stppes or something. it looks badass on rails and on spins up to 540. but i know tanner doesnt use it while doing d-10's and stuff

if your not cheating your not trying
 
yeah, people should just ski how they want to ski, their own style. you have a pretty good point.

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HIGH NORTH SESSION 2!!!
 
word to that man but you gotta admit that gorilla steeze is pretty sick in the park... hey your last sentence says it all

dodgeball and nuts = a few guys on the floor crying and many laughing

skiing or sex... good question????

 
tanner dosnt have the steeze when hes doin the big stuff cause its almost impossible, and it is impossible to do it in a d spin, but ne ways, i know exactly what ur sayin, theres ppl i ski with that ski moderatley in the park, but getting there theyre a threat to the public, its really funny when they think theyre all big and badass cause they can do some shit, but then u get them on top of a real hill and theyre cryin for their mommy, but what can u do, theyres always gonna be park rats

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Alex

::Viva la Resistance!::
 
haha im glad to see some people see it my way

yeah i sorta got ambitious in writing that...just hoping kids will become good all-mtn skiers, because that really is the most important aspect of skiing. Learn to rip the park and the steeps and the back country, then you know youve made it. People like Morrison always talk about being a good all around skier, not just park. Take it from Morrison

 
ure a gay racer... no just kidding it looks rediciloes when u try to copy hes steez when ure riding down the slope word on that!

[do_0b]

 
its great when ppl throw 'steezy 3s', but they suck so they really do a 3 with a spread held throughout

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Alex

::Viva la Resistance!::
 
i agree. but i do think tanner does it ok...

Reality is a crutch for people who can't cope with drugs

-Lily Tomlin
 
It's funny watching Tanner's segment in Propaganda, then in Happy Dayz. his style changed so much, i kinda like his older style better.

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HIGH NORTH SESSION 2!!!
 
actually, I wish I had a race background so I could have more sound skiing ability on the whole mountain and naturally have a good stance.

Eat. Sleep. Breathe. Ski.

 
Well ive skied my whole life and only got into this whole jibbing thing lately so I have a good overall ability and I would muchmuchmuch rather be skiing a pow line then a park. Specially since im out in the east.

 
yeah man, there is rarely pow (barely any when we actually do), so i always have to ski park or groomers. i go to whistler every year though so that makes up for it. i hardly go in the park there because their runs are so damn good.

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HIGH NORTH SESSION 2!!!
 
i hear that about the powder

since im a killington native, i spend more time skiing the mtn then in the park by far, since killington is hit or miss on their parks

 
haha, yeah racers are gay. But as people they can be cool. Dont judge the person by his activities.

 
yea but really, gorilla steeze is sweet on rails, i try to grind every rail without moving a muscle while i am on the rail, it really helps to get all gorilla, its way better than sliding the rail with your hands flailing way up in the air.

But I ain't one ta gossip, so you aint heeard that from me.
 
yeah dont get me wrong

racers in general are gay...i know this from racing for 6+ years, but i was also the kid that all the other racers thought was gay, because id have 2 pair of race skis (fresh edges for each run) plus a third pair of skis (never went to a race without twintips)

so definately, racers are gay....their skiing ability on the other hand is right up there with mogul kids, just not their attitudes

 
yeah steeze does sound like sneeze. stick with cheeder it is not to sharp not to dull all in all a good cheese.

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adding izzle to words can make even the richest white people sound even gayer than they do without their own knowlge

 
coming from a ski instructor background where they teach you how to ski the 'right' way, anthony, racers don't know how to ski...racers know how to make sharp turns at fast speeds...none of that relates to any aspect of park skiing, or big mountain skiing. Steeze isnt all that bad but i agree when freeriding its just gay...for all you steezers out there try keeping your hands up and in front of you...you'll probaby shit yourself when you see you can actually make real turns...

Five-9 Productions

'You can't go steezy in tha treezy'

-Brian Class on Skiing in the Glades

When there is no grass on the field, play in the mud

-Pep Fujas

-MR
 
k2skier

i agree and disagree

ive taught both standard skiing (snowzone at Rams Head K-town) and the Hopefulls Program (racing before the J's in VT) at Pico

ever racer is taught regular skiing before any race techniques. Almost ever race specific skill is built upon regular skiing skills.

sure, i teach kids how to really lay over a turn or hold an edge on ice, how to cross block or edge into a gate, how to take a high line, ect..but these are all built out've a solid freeride skill

think about it, racing skills are just freeride skills, just REALLY OVERPLAYED

so as far as im concerned, racing skills are just highly tuned freeride skills

 
damn that was a long post...but yeah...racers are gay, cept the ones who don't dress like racers and are actually really cool people. haha...i was told i had steeze when skiing switch the other day...yeah me trying not to fall.

stowek2: you go anywhere

PubLiC EneMy1023: no

PubLiC EneMy1023: i got a nice piece of ass tho

PubLiC EneMy1023: and im going to stowe next weekend

stowek2: hahaha

stowek2: sick
 
ski how u wanna ski and wear what u wanna wear, it shouldn't matter, why do people care that much?????????? seriously you guyz sound like old people arguing about there favourite actress and what they had for dinner, who the fuck cares?

i predict in year 2010 there will be no snowboarders and all freeskiers , why because skiing kicks ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
i would say that if you put 90% of the racers in the park or in the woods you'd see alot of pencil 360's and alot of splinters in the face...i love skiing but fuck racing al to hell

Five-9 Productions

'You can't go steezy in tha treezy'

-Brian Class on Skiing in the Glades

When there is no grass on the field, play in the mud

-Pep Fujas

-MR
 
i was once psia certified level 2 (until i realized they were just taking my money and i was only getting a meaningless certification out of it) and i wouldnt say racing doesnt relate to big mountain skiing, it certainly doesnt teach you everything you need to know though.

But I ain't one ta gossip, so you aint heeard that from me.
 
What's wrong with pencil 360s? Do you mean just standing up straight or with your arms out?

 
psia is worth something...u get like 10 percent off the purchase of any Subaru, haha thats my useless fact of the nite

 
racing has no pivoting, in order to ski you have to pivot your ski. the longer you race the more you loose that, I know a lot of kids that can kick my ass in racing but take them on a really steep run, put them in some powder, give them 190cm straight skis and they're utterly lost.

ski the way you want to, people say I have 'gorilla steeze', I'm just putting my style into it, thats the way my skiing has developed. If you see a guy that can't ski and he's doing gorilla style then how is that different from seeing a dude doing a snowplow or a really sloppy style? I'm not rant on people who do snowplows.

-Mike

Dude I was fine before you tried to turn me into a cake - me after ralphing after being antiqued
 
heh gorilla steeze is just a racing stance without edging and not having your hands infront, like those people that ski down groomers and pretend like they're hitting all of the slalom gates with their hands.

-Mike

Dude I was fine before you tried to turn me into a cake - me after ralphing after being antiqued
 
10% off any subaru? is that new or used or both?

cause i was thinking about getting a used wrx in the next couple years, and might have to go and get myself recertified just for that.

But I ain't one ta gossip, so you aint heeard that from me.
 
um, not sure...im almost positive its on new subaru's only...but i definately know u get money off a new subaru as long as your still currently certified in the current ski season, so like if u got certified for 03/04, u get the discount on any new subaru

 
OOOOOOOOOOOO a ski instructor background. My dog could get certified as a ski instructor. And he humps things. Racing teaches you the best fundamentals. Such as good stance, hand position, strength and redirction out of a ski. You think that doesn't apply to big mountain skiing? please, have you ever skied powder?

 
why the fuck do u guys care soo much about other people, like its none of your fucking buisness, if you have such a big problem with it go up to them and say what you think, im sure they wont care cause they are having fun with waht they are doing but dont fucking waste all our times listing to this gay shit people can do what ever they hell they want to...

STEEZ RiDeRs
 
PAKpowder, racing teaches u how to race not how to ski, the things u listed are all things u can learn in ski school, with good instruction

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Alex

::Viva la Resistance!::
 
Umm...H3O Films dude...you got called for carving on the way to a park? It just sort of sounds like you are making shit up now. I can't believe that would ever happen. If that happened to me I would totally dismiss it. Who cares?! Another thing, if you are good then you don't have to say it. People who aren't good think they have something to prove by posting how they have a 'strong skiing background' on these forums. And you make ski movies right? Are you not just jumping on the bandwagon of that? I mean, you are ripping on these kids for copying gorilla steeze but you are just starting to make ski vids like 6 years after State of Mind came out. If your movie sucks, then I am going to rip on it here in the forum just as you rip on the kids who 'can't ski'. You were a ski instructor at Ram's Head. AWESOME!!! Oh...a lil kids race coach at Pico?!?! You must be an awesome skier then. I am sooooo sick of people jumping on the 'I can't hit jumps but I am good skier so that makes me a better person than you' bandwagon. I want to see you ski pipe. That is the true test of a skier. If you can rip pipe, or anyone for that matter, you will have my full respect.

Latah'!

 
fine, come watch me ski pipe, no concerns here

what im saying is kids need to take skiing as an all-inclusive sport, not just skiing park

yes i was called out for carving a turn going to the park, i was told i was using 'gay racer style'

and im not jumping on the BANDWAGON with filmmaking, and if you think my vid sucks, rip on me when its done, but i doubt u will

 
i'll kick your ass in the sobe bitch...hahaha

stowek2: you go anywhere

PubLiC EneMy1023: no

PubLiC EneMy1023: i got a nice piece of ass tho

PubLiC EneMy1023: and im going to stowe next weekend

stowek2: hahaha

stowek2: sick
 
if u got 'ripped' on for carving on ur way to the park, ur hangin out with the wrong crowd

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Alex

::Viva la Resistance!::
 
i think that all the stuff racing teaches is u is bullshit and wont help u to be a good all around skier, i was gonna type this big long thing but that sums it up

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Alex

::Viva la Resistance!::
 
sorry if i dont agree, racing teaches you the most important fundementals of freeriding, because what u learn in racing, you just take down a few notches for freeriding

only thing racing doesnt teach u is moguls and powder, and obviously jumping

 
2 of which(pow and jumping) are the key elements to freeriding, if u cant ski pow, u cant really ski, cause in the olden days they didnt have snow cats, and if u cant jump, u not only cant hit tables, u cant drop cliffs

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Alex

::Viva la Resistance!::
 
u can drop cliffs fine...hitting a kicker and dropping cliffs are completely different, dont think a racer doesnt get air

skiing powder is a different skill, but your missing my point, what im saying is kids should be versatile, get outta the park and into the trees, so they can LEARN powder and freeriding, thats what the posts about

 
if u dont know how to do a solid, balanced jump on a table, u shouldnt be dropping cliffs, unless u learned to drop cliffs before or whatever, but my point is, skiing groomers really fast is like old people skiing to the extreme

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Alex

::Viva la Resistance!::
 
i can't ski pow...which sucks. only really been in anything over maybe 6 inches three times...one of which was just trying to keep up. oh well...going to have to go out west next winter to practice.

stowek2: you go anywhere

PubLiC EneMy1023: no

PubLiC EneMy1023: i got a nice piece of ass tho

PubLiC EneMy1023: and im going to stowe next weekend

stowek2: hahaha

stowek2: sick
 
i give tanner mad props cuz he can go out there and throw anything with style or steez, it doesnt mean that it slows skiings progression down , he cant help if people want to immitate his steez

dude brody, tell ur mom i miight have to quit school for skiing haha
 
Style comes naturally it shouldn't be forced. Peoples styles sometime change just like the style of clothing people have worn througout the years. Anyone complaining shouldn't give a shit about someone elses style, if that's what they feel comfortable doing thats what the feel comfortable doing.

 
yeah, im not saying a peticular style is a bad thing, what im saying is that when a skier adopts someone elses style without earning it, its a bad thing

skiers today that ive seen are trying too hard to be someone their not, or ride a way that isnt THEM, there is too much imitating of styles...im all for different skiers having different styles, if they didnt, skiing would be boring to watch, everyone would just be going through the motions

all im saying to kids out there is to learn how to ski and find your own style, what works best for you, dont just go use a certian style because you saw it somewhere

 
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