Moment pb&j vs. on3p jeronimo vs. jeffery

NCgaron

NCgaron

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i live on the east coast and i ski vt. and nh. i am 6 foot 170lbs. i ski 40% park 60% trees and off piste wich one of these skis would be the best for me and in what size. i am thinking the moments but not sure yet anyone know the weight difference between them +k for helpful responces
 
personally i havent rode the pb and j but i have friends who have and ive heard nothing but great things. i do own 2012 night trains and they rock everywhere pow, park, groomers etc.. id say grab some moments, super solid skis
 
The Jmo probably makes the most sense for you if you ski only east coast stuff. It's a perfect east coast all mountain ski.
 
im not really sure what skis you had. But as far as im concerned its my job to break their skis and I havnt broken many. and most of them hold up to as much abuse as i can dish out. never had a single delam and no major edge rip outs.
 
I would say you should go with the j-mos I love mine so much, they are tons of fun in the powder and park for sure, I named mine the crud killers too cause I have never had such a stable ski in the crud, they are really just a great ski in general, and for durability I haven't had a ski compare to it either, I've truly been very rough on mine and skied through some big rock fields and there wasn't any damage to the edges, only a few scrapes on the bases
 
wtf are you talking about? they are notorious for having the top sheet rip off in a matter of days, and for snapping
 
wrong, my donner parties are the shit. every ski is going to have top sheet chipping and mine have not had any more or less damage then any other ski I've ever owned.
 
Could we not turn this into a debate on moment's durability and return to topic. I am very interested as well.
 
i've got a pair of 188s centermounted w/ FKS 14s and skied on them six

or eight times now. my plan is to use them for east coast pow and spring

slushy park. they're pretty stiff, so they'll kick you around if you're

not paying attention in bumps and varied terrain. however, if you stay

centered, they rip pretty much everything. my edges are a little duller

now, but they can still absolutely lay out carves (as long as you're not

on straight ice), despite them being about twice as rockered in the tip

as i thought they'd be. finally got to ski them in 6/8 inches of

chopped up pow at sugarloaf yesterday and they were a lot of fun...the

tip rocker really shines in those conditions. as for park, they're not

quite as easy to throw around on rails as my volkl walls are, but i

haven't not been able to do any tricks with them. great on big jumps.

once we have soft, slushy park conditions in the spring, i can't think

of a better ski for cutting through rutted landings and such. they

should be a lot of fun then. check out my profile for a shot of some

urban with them.
 
Our team can't even go through skis that fast - likely a defect somewhere in the materials. Check the warranty page, they are likely covered, and you'll be able to get some new skis out of it.
 
i think it's pretty obvious, especially i fyou check his profile like he said to that he's talking about hte PBJs
 
188cm PB&J.

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Anyone who says Moment doesn't have high quality durability either rides rails like Charlie Sheen in a month-long binge or doesn't know how to land airs properly. Going back 5 years now on 11 different pairs, the only problem I ever had was slight topsheet chipping but this is easily corrected with a razor blade and some rough to smooth down where the topsheet meets the edge of the ski.

But in the end, you can't go wrong with any offering from Moment or ON3P (which Moment helped press skis back in the day and continues to help with some production here and there from what I understand).
 
Just for clarity, ON3P never had any help from Moment as far as actually building skis goes, ON3P has always done that 100% on our own. The help Moment generously provided us with has been material supply:

1) Printing sub prints for about 30 topsheets when my printer in WA had some equipment issues back in 2008 when I will still building my garage. Those were then sent to WA to be sublimated on blank top material.

2) Allowing us to add our 09/10 (1st year) VDS order to their order to save on shipping.

3) Printing ~25 pairs of Grizzlycorn bases for 10/11.

The Moment guys are great guys and have always been there to help if need be.

As fot the skis, I think you will probably be happy with whatever you choose. The PB&J and Jmo are definitely more similar than the Jeffrey, which I consider a fairly different ski just due to the width and turning radius.

 
BULL FUCKING SHIT!

They might be chipping but there no way you ski is doing this
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On3p's are pretty dope their edges and bases are bomb proof but the topsheets do chip a bit (somehow mine chipped in the middle)
 
No need to get mad. I've talked to the person who posted that and the damage he was talking about actually appeared impact damage that caused a small section of the topsheet to come up (this is thru photos, I cannot tell with absolute certainty without seeing the skis in person). Obviously impact is not something covered under warranty but luckily the damage is pretty minimal and about a five minute fix with a bit of epoxy and a c-clamp.
 
That was really cool of them to help you guys out like that. I laughed at the Grizzlycorn printing though.
 
yeah no its all good now, easy fix only thing is that its only a little suspect on how it happened cause I've babied those beauties like no other, still haven't even taken them into the park, so I'm stilled stumped on when this big impact happened but i guess it did.
 
i have last year's jmos, and ive never ridden the other 2. but all i have to say is the jmos are hands down the best ski ive ever owned or rode. go on3p and youll never get another brand again
 
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