Minneapolis is on fire right now....

14146756:Scaredwhiteboy said:
There is systemic racism. It mostly affects whites and asians, but that's not what the protesters care about.

Police brutality is a problem as well. If you've been on a twitter recently, you've probably seen dozens of videos of police officers being hit with bricks, dragged across roads, and run over by cars. This sort of brutality needs to end. Unfortunately, it's the protesters who are perpetrating most of this brutality.

The existing system is mostly fine. We need to arrest and prosecute all the criminals attacking cops, vandalizing public property, and robbing businesses, but other than that, yes we should continue on as usual.

No wait, I'd like to amend this opinion. Police performing no-knock raids on the wrong house and then shooting the people inside is something that needs to stop. Cops that make that mistake should be charged with murder.

**This post was edited on Jun 3rd 2020 at 12:26:22am
 
14146806:O1L_CH4D said:
you can’t call me racist cause I’m Turkish.

Of course I can. There is a lot of racism towards black people in Turkey, or in India, China, etc. Japan has a racism problem towards Chinese, and the list goes.

Racism is not something exclusive to white people my dude.
 
14146712:JAHBRADOR said:
Not the point I'm making.

Blackout Tuesday Organizers - "a day to disconnect from work and reconnect with our community" through "an urgent step of action to provoke accountability and change"

Not "wake up and post a picture of nothing to give you self validation that you care and then not think about it the rest of the day".

Even if you post the black pic and you still go about your daily life today, is it so hard to go one day without trying to stroke your own ego by posting about yourself after you have seemingly just made a statement vowing to dedicate the whole day to "provoking accountability and change"?

Same reason that on Memorial Day the people that actually give a shit about veterans will spend the whole day dedicated to doing things that support veterans. The people that don't will drink a 24 of bud heavy and enjoy the long weekend without even giving it a thought. Which is fine, at least they are not trying to be false.

Ok, I get what you're saying now. That could open up a whole new discussion about the fakeness of social media but really don't feel like getting into right now. Sorry for missing the point lol.
 
14146806:O1L_CH4D said:
and you can’t call me racist cause I’m Turkish.

**This post was edited on Jun 3rd 2020 at 12:07:56am

Go tell that to the PKK or YPJ and see how it goes for you.

Also, props to @scaredwhiteboy for pushing that Overton window right. Charles Murray would be so proud.

**This post was edited on Jun 3rd 2020 at 4:02:33am
 
14146251:Dustin. said:
People all over are saying things like this and outright saying or insinuating that leadership in departments need to fix this problem of systemic racism. But then I watch the Minneapolis Chief of Police to see his response and out walks a black man with 4 stars on his shirt. Am I to believe that this black officer is supporting or hiding a systematic problem of racist policies against blacks in his community? Seriously? That doesn't add up, where are these cops learning to target blacks? Are they doing it? It sure fucking seems that way, but I don't buy that it's from department leadership.

For some reason, I'm just seeing this now. Anyway, internalized racism explains a lot of that. I won't bore people who don't care with a wall of text, but the Wikipedia page isn't full of academic language, despite having plenty of journal references for anybody who's interested.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internalized_racism

I think a lot of liberals are saying what you seem to think I'm ultimately calling for - which makes sense given how media coverage is focused around this - but abolition of the police is actually my goal (and that of many leftists). It just so happens that a Minneapolis organization has a nice little guide on what that could look like:

https://www.mpd150.com/wp-content/themes/mpd150/assets/faq_zine.pdf



That obviously seems like a pretty utopian goal at this point, but I think it's mostly achievable in our lifetimes. Quite frankly, even if you do support police pretty wholeheartedly, it simply doesn't make sense for them to supposedly serve so many different functions at once. I think even most conservatives would agree at this point that police aren't well-equipped to productively deal with how mental illness can manifest in sometimes dangerous ways - locking up people with schizophrenia, some sort of psychosis, or severe bipolar disorder doesn't help them long-term at all.
 
14146813:Monsieur_Patate said:
Of course I can. There is a lot of racism towards black people in Turkey, or in India, China, etc. Japan has a racism problem towards Chinese, and the list goes.

Racism is not something exclusive to white people my dude.

Well you certainly frame every single one of your posts to sound like it is, seeing as you don’t see the outright racism that is being shown to whites atm
 
14146756:Scaredwhiteboy said:
There is systemic racism. It mostly affects whites and asians, but that's not what the protesters care about.

Somebody didn't get into the college they wanted to "because affirmative action".
 
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14146757:Scaredwhiteboy said:
You added the word "all" which I didn't say and radically changes the meaning of the sentence. Intellectual honesty is not your forte, huh?

Take out the word ‘all’ which I apparently “added” and read it again.

The only way it changes the sentence is that it goes from a 9/10 contradiction to a 10/10 contradiction.

You are not a smart man.
 
14146808:rice.chex said:
Why does every post you make sound like you just graduated the 7th grade

I'll have you know that I'm going to uni next year, so idk how I sound like I'm in gr 7. Its definitely not my sentence structure or my grammar
 
14146854:Rparr said:
Damn I didn’t think there would be so many boot licking bitches here on ns

I know right? I feel like it’s a lot of high schoolers absorbing and repeating what their conservative parents are saying about this whole situation.
 
14146875:CalumSKI said:
I'll have you know that I'm going to uni next year, so idk how I sound like I'm in gr 7. Its definitely not my sentence structure or my grammar

You use the same vocabulary as all the middle schoolers who shop at zumiez
 
Just saw this post from a friend of a friend living in Minneapolis. Is there anyone in the city who can confirm this?

“So for those of you who are interested - I have no idea how national media is covering this - here is what is happening on the ground from my perspective. It is a long post.

All day yesterday people were out on the street helping businesses - EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS IN UPTOWN has boarded up windows and locked down their stores. The 3rd Precinct, which burned on down Thursday night, is on the east end of Lake Street. Uptown, where we live and the 5th Precinct police station is located, is three miles west on lake street. All of Lake Street was looted on Thursday night. On Friday EVERY BUSINESS on Lake Street and adjoining commercial districts, was boarded up.

Many spray painted murals on the plywood - let folks know they were a local or minority owned business. Essential businesses.

Last night was by far the worst night. Protests during the day were peaceful. There was an 8:00pm curfew. Everything changed when the sun went down. There are roving and highly organized bands of anti-government neo-nazi white men cruising the city, breaking off plywood, looting stores, and then setting them fire to the buildings.

On the Northside, which is predominately African American, the situation was much the same. Local civic groups were trying to protect local businesses and homes. there were many fires.

The violence and destruction is NOT being driven by local people. The cars on the streets have either removed their license plates, or have out of state plates.

Here is a post from a neighbor, "Everybody! We need to get our heads around what’s happening, Mpls and St Paul are being attacked by fascist “accelerationist” white crazies. Trying to divide & destroy us.

Accelerationism: the idea inspiring white supremacist killers around the world -Vox"

Expect these same types to infiltrate all of the legitimate protests happening in other cities in America. We are fighting an enemy within.

These "accelerationists" burned down the 5th Police Precinct, our post office, every pharmacy. The Wallgreens and CVS within a few blocks of our house are still burning this morning. The grocery stores were all hit. Every bank has been hit. Every liquor store, every gas station. They have guns and accelerants.

When National Guard show up, they disappear into the neighborhoods and have been setting fires. It is a violent game of arsonist wake-a-mole. There is no longer any fire fighting service available - overwhelmed. So neighbors are using garden hoses to put out the fires and save homes. Pictures neighbors are sharing - these are young white men, heavily armed.

According to authorities there are over 10,000 of these "accelerationists" in the city. St. Paul arrested over 50 people last night. ALL OF THEM were from out of state. The authorities are checking phones of the people they have arrested, doing contact tracing of sorts on these people. These people are connected to right wing militia style groups with a civil/race war fantasy. They are opportunistically using the legitimate, peaceful George Floyd protests as a cover to actualize their neo-nazi fever dream.

Gov. Walz just said, "If you know where these people are sleeping today, let us know and we will execute warrants. Allie and I were helping the owner of a commercial building up the street - a friend, and two of these guys came up to us. Wanted to know where the free food was being distributed. He gave them an address that was three blocks away. Had no idea what we were talking about - not from here.

Allie, the girls and I are fine and safe. Exhausted. Angry. We have not really slept in three days. Everyone in Minneapolis/St. Paul is the same.

So, what to do? Our neighborhood group is meeting at the park this afternoon. I think that they will organize our neighborhood watch to patrol, try to spot fires and get them out ASAP.

Major protests are planned for today. They want the other three police officers involved in George Floyd's murder arrested, they want the MN Attorney General, not the Hennepin County Attorney to manage the case. They want the MPD disbanded and reformed with many alternative public safety and law enforcement strategies used. But the legitimate protests will end at 8:00 pm.

The Gov. and the mayor are calling in thousands more National Guard Troops. We already had more National Guard troops in the city than ever before. They are doing a good job but were overwhelmed last night by sheer numbers. Gov. Walz is the highest ranking soldier to have ever served in Congress and led the National Guard - he clearly sees this for what it is and will fight it. This is now a military operation by the State of Minnesota against alt-right, white nationalists and anarchists that have come into Minneapolis to use the protests against police brutality as cover for their death fantasy.

They are trying to force authorities to use deadly force and "accelerate" the violence.

It is dark friends.

The other side - this morning the neighborhood is out in force helping with the clean up, re-securing businesses. Massive food distribution at community centers. People taking in neighbors whose homes were destroyed or whose neighborhood was so impacted that it is no longer habitable."
 
14146867:TOAST. said:
Somebody didn't get into the college they wanted to "because affirmative action".

Nah, I got into my top choice and graduated summa cum laude. That doesn't change the fact that it's inherently racist for universities to set different standards based on what you look like. This is not about me; it's about the people who are being treated unfairly just for the color of their skin.
 
14146873:JAHBRADOR said:
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Take out the word ‘all’ which I apparently “added” and read it again.

The only way it changes the sentence is that it goes from a 9/10 contradiction to a 10/10 contradiction.

You are not a smart man.

Poor people are on average intellectually inferior. Do you not understand the concept of averages? Adding the word "all" radically changes the meaning of the sentence. You know this; that's why you did it. You can't argue with my actual points so you have to put dumber words in my mouth and argue those instead.
 
Lmao bro how stupid do you think we are ??? nothing wrong with going to the bunker for protection as you are one of the most important persons in the world but come on. Inspection? Haha what the fuck. Yeah you went down for an inspection because that's your job. Okay.

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14146909:Lonely said:
Is the Silmarillion worth a read? I have tried to start it a few times and have never followed through

I really enjoyed it, and think it's worth the read. I know several people who didn't find it engaging enough though. I think it's fascinating. I really like learning the history and development of things, and this does just that for the whole middle earth universe.
 
Got shot at with rubber bullets and teargassed last night in Milwaukee. Started out with a bike cop running into some dude then they tackled him and cuffed him. people gathered around and a few threw plastic water bottles, the rest of the crowd yelled at these people to stop. Police responded with teargas and rubber bullets, formed a line four deep with multiple armored vehicles, and continued to gas and shoot at the protesters (who were kneeling at this point and chanting "we are peaceful"). Today I hear the police reported rocks, glass, and Molotovs thrown at them. I can tell you firsthand that's a blatant lie and I have the footage to back it up. Only thing thrown at them apart from those first water bottles were the teargas canisters they shot at us. Even after this incident, there was no looting, no violence, and not a single window broken downtown. All you fucking bootlickers can suck a dick. You need to get the fuck out of your piss smelling lair in the suburbs and actually go witness what's going on in the city with your own two eyes.
 
14146885:Charlie_Kelly said:
Should have just flown the Eagles over Mt Doom. I know the nazghul would have provided opposition but I think the eagles could take them.

I think there was a reason why this couldn't be done. Maybe some sort of directive by the gods that they couldn't intervene except for certain situations.

I could be remembering wrong though.
 
14146930:JAHpow said:
I think there was a reason why this couldn't be done. Maybe some sort of directive by the gods that they couldn't intervene except for certain situations.

I could be remembering wrong though.

After some reading it is my understanding that the Eagles care little of the affairs of men. The Isitari (wizards) and Eagles we’re both put in Middle Earth by the Valar to act as guides and to provide their influence when necessary. Gandalf helped save one of the Eagles from a poison arrow which is why the Eagles helped in both the Hobbit and Fellowship of the Ring but he cannot call on them as he wishes. Basically they do what they want and the implication is they had no desire to put themselves at risk flying to Mordor just to help the world of men.

**This post was edited on Jun 3rd 2020 at 2:23:03pm
 
14146909:Lonely said:
Is the Silmarillion worth a read? I have tried to start it a few times and have never followed through

It’s a tough start from what I remember. Had to reread parts for it to make sense. But once you get into it and past the creation of the world it mellows out. I definitely plan to reread it.

**This post was edited on Jun 3rd 2020 at 2:25:33pm
 
14146920:ronders_ said:
Got shot at with rubber bullets and teargassed last night in Milwaukee. Started out with a bike cop running into some dude then they tackled him and cuffed him. people gathered around and a few threw plastic water bottles, the rest of the crowd yelled at these people to stop. Police responded with teargas and rubber bullets, formed a line four deep with multiple armored vehicles, and continued to gas and shoot at the protesters (who were kneeling at this point and chanting "we are peaceful"). Today I hear the police reported rocks, glass, and Molotovs thrown at them. I can tell you firsthand that's a blatant lie and I have the footage to back it up. Only thing thrown at them apart from those first water bottles were the teargas canisters they shot at us. Even after this incident, there was no looting, no violence, and not a single window broken downtown. All you fucking bootlickers can suck a dick. You need to get the fuck out of your piss smelling lair in the suburbs and actually go witness what's going on in the city with your own two eyes.

What? Police never lie - it hasn’t been documented even once! Plus, haven’t they been kneeling with protestors to show their support? There’s no way that could just have been for a photo op!

Also, if you’re at protests, whether you think of yourself as liberal, leftist, or apolitical, be careful about publicly stating this. The fact that ‘antifa’ has been designated a terrorist group when there it isn’t actually any sort of coherent organization is an excuse to take what few rights you have away completely if there’s even the most vague possibility you’ve done something the federal government isn’t happy about.
 
Well apparently SLC has swat and undercover FBI agents targeting people in the crowds, beating them up and questioning them. Apparently one kids in jail on 3 felonies including being the one to flip and lit a cop car on fire which by the sound of it is false, his friend got off fine after being suspected of having an explosive in his bag, not the fucking camelback and sandwich they found. Imagine if cops in the US actually had to go through an extensive process to prove they’re mentally capable of holding a gun at their side, dealing with all sides of people, and handling chaotic events, oh wait you just have to graduate high school and train for half a fucking year.
 
14146941:*TURBONERD* said:
What? Police never lie - it hasn’t been documented even once! Plus, haven’t they been kneeling with protestors to show their support? There’s no way that could just have been for a photo op!

Also, if you’re at protests, whether you think of yourself as liberal, leftist, or apolitical, be careful about publicly stating this. The fact that ‘antifa’ has been designated a terrorist group when there it isn’t actually any sort of coherent organization is an excuse to take what few rights you have away completely if there’s even the most vague possibility you’ve done something the federal government isn’t happy about.

I'm not aligned with any group whatsoever, "both wings are part of the same bird" pretty much sums up my view. I value the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and I'm gonna speak facts. I can't believe America is now a country where you need to be afraid of posting something like this online. If they take me away, remember what I said here. Simply stating you attended a protest should not be grounds for being labeled a terrorist. That's the most blatant violation of the First Amendment I've ever heard. Then again I guess the federal government finally ran out of toilet paper, so they're gonna use the Constitution to wipe their asses next.
 
14146938:Charlie_Kelly said:
After some reading it is my understanding that the Eagles care little of the affairs of men. The Isitari (wizards) and Eagles we’re both put in Middle Earth by the Valar to act as guides and to provide their influence when necessary. Gandalf helped save one of the Eagles from a poison arrow which is why the Eagles helped in both the Hobbit and Fellowship of the Ring but he cannot call on them as he wishes. Basically they do what they want and the implication is they had no desire to put themselves at risk flying to Mordor just to help the world of men.

**This post was edited on Jun 3rd 2020 at 2:23:03pm

That's starting to ring a bell. I'm going to have to reread The Silmarillion haha. It's been so long.

One book that is good, but definitely has some boring parts, is Unfinished Tales. It's a bunch of other middle earth notes and stories by Tolkien that didn't make it into any established storylines yet. It has remained 'unfinished' in my readings for a while now, unfortunately.
 
14146904:Scaredwhiteboy said:
Poor people are on average intellectually inferior. Do you not understand the concept of averages? Adding the word "all" radically changes the meaning of the sentence. You know this; that's why you did it. You can't argue with my actual points so you have to put dumber words in my mouth and argue those instead.

If you’re going to troll at least be good at it.
 
14146920:ronders_ said:
Got shot at with rubber bullets and teargassed last night in Milwaukee. Started out with a bike cop running into some dude then they tackled him and cuffed him. people gathered around and a few threw plastic water bottles, the rest of the crowd yelled at these people to stop. Police responded with teargas and rubber bullets, formed a line four deep with multiple armored vehicles, and continued to gas and shoot at the protesters (who were kneeling at this point and chanting "we are peaceful"). Today I hear the police reported rocks, glass, and Molotovs thrown at them. I can tell you firsthand that's a blatant lie and I have the footage to back it up. Only thing thrown at them apart from those first water bottles were the teargas canisters they shot at us. Even after this incident, there was no looting, no violence, and not a single window broken downtown. All you fucking bootlickers can suck a dick. You need to get the fuck out of your piss smelling lair in the suburbs and actually go witness what's going on in the city with your own two eyes.

Are you claiming to have video of the entire city of Milwaukee? If not, I don't see how your video could possibly disprove any claim that a molotov was thrown.
 
14146967:Scaredwhiteboy said:
Are you claiming to have video of the entire city of Milwaukee? If not, I don't see how your video could possibly disprove any claim that a molotov was thrown.

Nah they accused that specific group at that specific time of throwing molotovs. It was a blatant lie. The burden of proof falls on the one who makes the positive statement. How about this: there is no evidence this occurred whatsoever. Go lick some more boots, or actually go out and see for yourself.
 
14146967:Scaredwhiteboy said:
Are you claiming to have video of the entire city of Milwaukee? If not, I don't see how your video could possibly disprove any claim that a molotov was thrown.

You have an unhealthy obsession with eating dog shit.

Go ahead, prove me wrong.

See how that works? If you make a claim, you have to prove it you lazy, dog shit eating piece of trash.
 
14146968:Scaredwhiteboy said:
It's obvious from a mile away that you're dodging the argument because you know you will lose.

What that the NBA is racist? I don’t even think that is worth arguing.

That you are a price of garbage? That’s obvious.

That at all poor people are dumb? Thought we have already been over that.
 
what a fucking CUNT

these boot-lickers are the scum of the earth

to have the nerve and arrogance to do this is pure disgusting

what a load of horseshit. this bitch gets her CUNT boyfriend to take a pic of her posing with a drill in her hand with a Mexican construction worker infront of a damaged building in Santa Monica and then runs off in her Mercedes SUV

 
14146967:Scaredwhiteboy said:
Are you claiming to have video of the entire city of Milwaukee? If not, I don't see how your video could possibly disprove any claim that a molotov was thrown.

I thought molotovs were made with glass? You be the judge.

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Hope you're wearing ski goggles or some other hard protective goggle. Seen too many videos and pictures of people getting hit in the face and eyes with rubber bullets, knee knockers, gas canisters, and bean bag rounds. Don't wanna lose an eye.

14146920:ronders_ said:
Got shot at with rubber bullets and teargassed last night in Milwaukee. Started out with a bike cop running into some dude then they tackled him and cuffed him. people gathered around and a few threw plastic water bottles, the rest of the crowd yelled at these people to stop. Police responded with teargas and rubber bullets, formed a line four deep with multiple armored vehicles, and continued to gas and shoot at the protesters (who were kneeling at this point and chanting "we are peaceful"). Today I hear the police reported rocks, glass, and Molotovs thrown at them. I can tell you firsthand that's a blatant lie and I have the footage to back it up. Only thing thrown at them apart from those first water bottles were the teargas canisters they shot at us. Even after this incident, there was no looting, no violence, and not a single window broken downtown. All you fucking bootlickers can suck a dick. You need to get the fuck out of your piss smelling lair in the suburbs and actually go witness what's going on in the city with your own two eyes.

14147013:ronders_ said:
I thought molotovs were made with glass? You be the judge.

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Won't work as well but still dangerous cuz once the bottle hits, fluid will squirt out
 
14146982:skierman said:
You have an unhealthy obsession with eating dog shit.

Go ahead, prove me wrong.

See how that works? If you make a claim, you have to prove it you lazy, dog shit eating piece of trash.

I'm not saying I have proof that a molotov was thrown. I'm saying this idiot ronders claiming his one minute video of some protest is proof that no molotov was thrown *all* night is laughable.

**This post was edited on Jun 3rd 2020 at 10:01:29pm
 
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