Minneapolis is on fire right now....

14145121:little1337 said:

also ik linking to reddit is frowned upon here but this vid is kind of nuts

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/gsk41x/pigs_in_downtown_spray_mace_for_no_reason/

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Wtf now theres a video of the pizza box guy and the umbrella guy just hanging out like friends

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gsl79n/pink_pizza_dude_friends_with_umbrella_man_post/
 
14145121:little1337 said:

also ik linking to reddit is frowned upon here but this vid is kind of nuts

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/gsk41x/pigs_in_downtown_spray_mace_for_no_reason/

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This is most likely untrue.

Please do your due diligence in confirming before believing-https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020...-of-its-officers-incited-mpls-riots-is-false/
 
And once the fire settle it will be forgotten until another cop murders a black man and it will repeat again.

This cycle needs to end.

Also it is pretty clear the cops wanted a riot to happen. It makes the protestors look bad instead of the police.

**This post was edited on May 29th 2020 at 9:22:35am
 
14145174:cyphers said:
do you really think the cops would admit it was him?
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Yes, if they wanted to get in front of the situation, but this is why I said "most likely untrue" because I don't actually like their response all that much. It's not much of a convincing answer to a very serious accusation. Little1337 didn't post an alternate viewpoint, so I'm providing that.
 
14145121:little1337 said:

also ik linking to reddit is frowned upon here but this vid is kind of nuts

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/gsk41x/pigs_in_downtown_spray_mace_for_no_reason/

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Yeah I saw this guy on ankillas story, obviously there’s probably lots of crazy civilians doing shit themselves, APPARENTLY this guy is part of a govt group that ignites riots like these and keeps em going or something, ya know coming from X. Kinda can see it but I also don’t see why someone from the MPD would risk hurting their image even more or losing their job by doing this to their own town.

these people are about to be treated like animals even more, no way the corrupted side of the law wants to have peace between non whites and police in America, the media loves this shit.
 
14145117:little1337 said:
Damn thats crazy, hope everyones safe. Are there any Minneapolis NSers?
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15 Minutes outside of Minneapolis, a lot of places in the suburbs have been getting threats and everyone around here is pretty scared of the riots spreading
 
14145204:eheath said:
Apparently they got released after an hour, but this is a really bad look, you can't arrest people who are reporting an event, people are going to think you're trying to hide something...
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Clearly none of those cops thought twice about if arresting them was a good decision, or were too afraid to speak up to a superior. The news team showed their CNN credentials and asked where the cops wanted them to move to. They were unquestionably cooperating. Besides the fact that I think CNN is garbage like every other mainstream network, they have every right to be where they were and doing what they're doing.
 
14145210:BoostMaG said:
15 Minutes outside of Minneapolis, a lot of places in the suburbs have been getting threats and everyone around here is pretty scared of the riots spreading
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Is the whole city rioting or is it just parts of it? Thats gotta be terrifying
 
14145204:eheath said:
Apparently they got released after an hour, but this is a really bad look, you can't arrest people who are reporting an event, people are going to think you're trying to hide something...
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Yeah that was really weird to see. Usually its some internet citizen journalist getting caught up and arrested but an actual CNN anchor is another level. I mean, there are obviously credentials and a guy with a giant live feed camera right on site. Typically the MSM is happy to shill for the power structure anyway so its odd to see an anchor get arrested in a live feed.
 
14145210:BoostMaG said:
15 Minutes outside of Minneapolis, a lot of places in the suburbs have been getting threats and everyone around here is pretty scared of the riots spreading
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This is a reason for the Second Amendment. Regardless of the motivations of the rioters citizens have the right to defend themselves and their property. The Koreans had the right idea in 1992. That was one store that didnt get looted or torched:

 
And yet history repeats itself. “Let’s destroy our entire city and hurt innocent people because a shitty cop killed a black man”

Absolutely no hope for humanity.
 
14145244:SnowshoeThompson said:
And yet history repeats itself. “Let’s destroy our entire city and hurt innocent people because a shitty cop killed a black man”

Absolutely no hope for humanity.
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Imagine having sympathy for other humans, jesus christ dude.
 
14145247:eheath said:
Imagine having sympathy for other humans, jesus christ dude.
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You think any of these rioters or looters give a shit about the lives they are destroying by torching businesses or the sick people who cant get meds because they cleaned out Walgreens? Most of these people probably dont give a crap about the guy that got killed by the cops, its just an excuse to run around lawless and take stuff for your own gain.
 
14145215:little1337 said:
Is the whole city rioting or is it just parts of it? Thats gotta be terrifying
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Alot of it is pretty messed up right now, both st Paul and mpls, national guard is coming in. If the officers who did it arent arrested then people will get more angry and things are really gonna be out of control. 2020 has been great so far
 
14145249:SuspiciousFish said:
You think any of these rioters or looters give a shit about the lives they are destroying by torching businesses or the sick people who cant get meds because they cleaned out Walgreens? Most of these people probably dont give a crap about the guy that got killed by the cops, its just an excuse to run around lawless and take stuff for your own gain.
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So you think everyone who is out on the streets is looting? C'mon man, you're just making yourself look more ignorant, there will ALWAYS be bad people that take advantage of the situation. The point here is that a cop killed a man, hes not even up for charges yet and people aren't happy, watching the live stream last night most people are just walking around yelling "FUCK 12" or "fuck the police" and alot of people had good shit to say too, its not fair at all just to assume everyone is a bad person who is there to get free shit.
 
14145251:BoostMaG said:
Alot of it is pretty messed up right now, both st Paul and mpls, national guard is coming in. If the officers who did it arent arrested then people will get more angry and things are really gonna be out of control. 2020 has been great so far
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Yeah I don't get why this guy hasn't been arrested yet. Anyone else would've been jailed already had it been caught on video like this was.
 
14145244:SnowshoeThompson said:
And yet history repeats itself. “Let’s destroy our entire city and hurt innocent people because a shitty cop killed a black man”

Absolutely no hope for humanity.
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This is people standing up to a broken system. They have every right to be outraged, especially considering the police officer hasn't been brought to justice. You're not going to get middle & upper class white people's attention without making their comfortable, privileged, & insulated lives, uncomfortable. People don't give a shit about anything, until it affects them.

I don't support thieves & looting, but America needs the civil unrest right now—the only way to protest a system that commodifies every single aspect of life and values economics over human lives, is to show the very fragility of it. The moment in time we are all living through is going to be pivotal for the future of "the greatest country in the world." The sense of nationalism that COViD-19 has brought to the forefront of the collective conversation will be a good thing for Americans—they will have no one to blame for their actions, but themselves (I can still guarantee there will be some sort of scapegoat, though.) After all, the borders to Canada and Mexico are closed, and no other country wants to let Americans in without a case for repatriation, i.e. dual-citizenship.

Irony is, Trump finally got what he wanted; America first. All hail the almighty dollar, am I right?
 
14145253:eheath said:
So you think everyone who is out on the streets is looting? C'mon man, you're just making yourself look more ignorant, there will ALWAYS be bad people that take advantage of the situation. The point here is that a cop killed a man, hes not even up for charges yet and people aren't happy, watching the live stream last night most people are just walking around yelling "FUCK 12" or "fuck the police" and alot of people had good shit to say too, its not fair at all just to assume everyone is a bad person who is there to get free shit.
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For sure, I have no problem with people out being pissed off because the situation. The problem is when they start literally destroying their own community. In the live steam many of the locals are scared to death and cant get groceries and stuff now. There is plenty of footage of throngs of smiling people walking out of target with TVs, Bikes and toasters and stuff. In the video from the OP toward the end they interviewed a guy that said he saw someone burn to death in the fire. A ton of people who are not involved at all with this situation are going to suffer now.

There are effective ways to protest that make a difference that dont involve burning down your own community.
 
14145260:SuspiciousFish said:
For sure, I have no problem with people out being pissed off because the situation. The problem is when they start literally destroying their own community. In the live steam many of the locals are scared to death and cant get groceries and stuff now. There is plenty of footage of throngs of smiling people walking out of target with TVs, Bikes and toasters and stuff. In the video from the OP toward the end they interviewed a guy that said he saw someone burn to death in the fire. A ton of people who are not involved at all with this situation are going to suffer now.

There are effective ways to protest that make a difference that dont involve burning down your own community.
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So who's fault is it? Governor? Police? Why can't they control the bad individuals while the peaceful protest continues? The cops/governor are scared as fuck, they need to lock up that cop asap or its just going to get worse.
 
14145188:JAHpow said:
Yes, if they wanted to get in front of the situation, but this is why I said "most likely untrue" because I don't actually like their response all that much. It's not much of a convincing answer to a very serious accusation. Little1337 didn't post an alternate viewpoint, so I'm providing that.
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That ""proof"" posted on twitter is dogshit. But twitter being twitter, theyre going to ruin that mans life

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14145267:eheath said:
So who's fault is it? Governor? Police? Why can't they control the bad individuals while the peaceful protest continues? The cops/governor are scared as fuck, they need to lock up that cop asap or its just going to get worse.
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Honestly, the biggest problem are police unions. They are the institution that swoops in and protects these cops whenever we have an incident like this. I agree, at least detain the cops involved so they can smooth things out while they do an investigation.
 
14145254:JAHpow said:
Yeah I don't get why this guy hasn't been arrested yet. Anyone else would've been jailed already had it been caught on video like this was.
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When you’re a cop in America laws don’t apply to you, even if you have hard evidence of brutality against you. Would love to see how those officers involved would do behind bars in their own community.
 
14145274:SuspiciousFish said:
Honestly, the biggest problem are police unions. They are the institution that swoops in and protects these cops whenever we have an incident like this. I agree, at least detain the cops involved so they can smooth things out while they do an investigation.
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Yeah instead they got 100 cops sitting outside his house while hes comfortable at home, i'd hope hes having some remorse and guilt, but who knows.
 
14145255:Lampard said:
This is people standing up to a broken system. They have every right to be outraged, especially considering the police officer hasn't been brought to justice. You're not going to get middle & upper class white people's attention without making their comfortable, privileged, & insulated lives, uncomfortable. People don't give a shit about anything, until it affects them.

I don't support thieves & looting, but America needs the civil unrest right now—the only way to protest a system that commodifies every single aspect of life and values economics over human lives, is to show the very fragility of it. The moment in time we are all living through is going to be pivotal for the future of "the greatest country in the world." The sense of nationalism that COViD-19 has brought to the forefront of the collective conversation will be a good thing for Americans—they will have no one to blame for their actions, but themselves (I can still guarantee there will be some sort of scapegoat, though.) After all, the borders to Canada and Mexico are closed, and no other country wants to let Americans in without a case for repatriation, i.e. dual-citizenship.

Irony is, Trump finally got what he wanted; America first. All hail the almighty dollar, am I right?
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You can still get people's attention by peaceful organized protest. The difference is when its peaceful and has a defined goal, that goal or agenda is understood. When you run around looting, the general population sees fires, anarchy and looting.

"Fuck the system" doesnt work, because at the end of the day you are still dependent on the system and will return to it. To really make change you need to build you own system aside from the one you want to destroy. We see it already and it works but it needs to be more widespread. Things like:

Community Gardens

Charter Schools with greater discipline in inner city schools to fill the void that the lack of family caused

Trade schools in inner cities to lean actual skills that are needed in the US and cant be outsourced

Business Schools for inner cities to set up local business and make cultural push to 'buy local'

GET RID OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS- America was never meant to have police departments. The whole point was to have a sheriff who was elected and accountable to the people. We need to go back to this model for our cities as well as rural counties. That way when you have shit like this go down, you can kick out the Sheriff next election or set up a referendum to hold them accountable immediately.

**This post was edited on May 29th 2020 at 1:29:00pm
 
14145280:SuspiciousFish said:
You can still get people's attention by peaceful organized protest. The difference is when its peaceful and has a defined goal, that goal or agenda is understood. When you run around looting, the general population sees fires, anarchy and looting.

"Fuck the system" doesnt work, because at the end of the day you are still dependent on the system and will return to it. To really make change you need to build you own system aside from the one you want to destroy. We see it already and it works but it needs to be more widespread. Things like:

Community Gardens

Charter Schools with greater discipline in inner city schools to fill the void that the lack of family caused

Trade schools in inner cities to lean actual skills that are needed in the US and cant be outsourced

Business Schools for inner cities to set up local business and make cultural push to 'buy local'

GET RID OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS- America was never meant to have police departments. The whole point was to have a sheriff who was elected and accountable to the people. We need to go back to this model for our cities as well as rural counties. That way when you have shit like this go down, you can kick out the Sheriff next election or set up a referendum to hold them accountable immediately.

**This post was edited on May 29th 2020 at 1:29:00pm
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Agree with everything except last point. The sheriff would need quite the staff to help maintain order, especially in large urban areas. I’d definitely be curious to see how that type of model would play out.
 
14145188:JAHpow said:
Yes, if they wanted to get in front of the situation, but this is why I said "most likely untrue" because I don't actually like their response all that much. It's not much of a convincing answer to a very serious accusation. Little1337 didn't post an alternate viewpoint, so I'm providing that.
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My mistake, should've investigated more. In my defense it was like 3 am tho and I was fired up on mountain dew and self loathing
 
They are shutting public transit down to prevent spread. I've heard from reliable news sources that a a good chunk of protesters aren't even from Minnesota. A few small skate and thrift stores owned by some friends got burglarized unfortunately :(.
 
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/29/derek-chauvin-arrested-george-floyd-death-minneapolis-police-officer/

Finally...

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"An autopsy report is pending, but the Hennepin County Medical Examiner did release these findings: There were no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation, and that Mr. Floyd had underlying health problems, including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease.

According to the medical examiner, “the combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.

The complaint determined that Chauvin had his knee on Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds total. Two minutes and 53 seconds of that time was after Floyd became unresponsive.

“Police are trained that this type of restraint with a subject in prone position is inherently dangerous,” the complaint said.

If convicted, Chauvin could face up to 25 years in prison on the murder charge and up to 10 years in prison on the manslaughter charge."

**This post was edited on May 29th 2020 at 3:26:44pm
 
This shit is happening like 10-15 minutes from my house. Hopefully I'll be able to get home in time to riot for a night or two.
 
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