Minimum DIN

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I picked up some Jesters for super cheap and I have the DIN set at 7.5. I have heard the bad stuff happens from setting your DIN in the lowest range of the binding (Jesters are 6- 16). Is that true? I don't want to mess up my bindings somehow.
I got them for $10 more than Griffons, and I figured they were worth it, the metal in them is supposed to make them last a long time.
 
that doesnt seem to make sense to me in fact i would think a lower DIN would better on a bindings since though its made to take the stress of a 16 DIN instead its at 7 so the springs aren't putting as much stress on the bindings... i dunno this is my hypothesis im pretty sure if youre paying $$$ for Jesters theyre made to ride at whatever DIN you like no problems (well as long as its between 6-16)
 
Think of it like gears on a bike. You have a 24 speed bike, but that doesn't mean that you should go all the way into 24th gear or to 1st gear-- it puts too much strain on the chain.
The best setting for your DIN is going to be the midpoint of the high and low extremes. You generally don't want to go under 8 if the low is 6 and over 14 if the high is 16; the bindings weren't really made to perform optimally at those extreme ends.
 
7.5 isn't that bad then, right? What do you mean won't perform optimally, will there be prerelease issues?
 
The old "2 to the end" rule (which states you should leave two full number values of adjustment between your DIN setting the the upper and lower limits of the binding, respectively...is false.

While this rule is a fine one to follow, and lends itself to you having a great set of bindings for your weight, the fact is that when bindings are made, they are tested to DIN (Deutsches Institut für Normung) ISO standards.

Basically this means that each setting on the binding has to release at it's numeric retention value. A 6 setting has a certain pressure (weight) that it requires to release...this is true for every value in the scale.

What can and will change (between bindings, and sometimes on the same binding with a different setting) is the "Release Characteristics" of the binding. For instance..say you have an FKS-style 12-DIN binding, and the same model in the 18-DIN version.

If you set each at 8...the pressure value of release will be the same, but the "feel" will be different. The 12-DIN model will have a more snappy, sudden feeling release, while the 18-DIN model will seem smoother, this is because the 12-DIN binding is using more of it's given spring tension to achieve the same release value. The 18-DIN model is at it's lowest setting, therefore even though it's release value is 8, it's using almost none of it's available tension.

Does that make sense?
 
Make sense dude, so there's really no problem with having my DIN at the minimum? So the release will feel less snappy on the Jesters because the spring is less tense at 7.5 DIN than the Griffons?
 
You can run 7.5 on Jesters, no problem.

The feel issue also depends on the way the binding releases, part of the reason that is true for the FKS is the heel design.
 
you got it, 7.5 doesn't matter on a binding where 6 is the lowest, i always try not to max out the binding, like i wouldn't ride a 12 din binding at 12 just because the release will be so snappy it means there's more pressure on the din spring than if you're riding at 8. some people say this isn't true but it's just kind of a gut feeling i have so i run with it. i have a pair of fks 120's and a pair of 155's, both set at 10. when i release of the 120's they snap back into place but on the 155's my boots just kinda squirt out. but in terms of pre-releasing being related to din set too high it's most likely just a forward pressure issue and not a problem with the din, so make sure your forward pressure is on and then the din shouldn't be a problem at all if it's set at 7.5
 
Great, thanks already had you at 10 hah
What's the deal with people saying that setting your DIN at the minimum is bad?
 


It's sort of just been a "rule of thumb" thing for awhile now, and it's not bad.

It'll put you in a good binding range.

But running them low isn't bad.
 
As said above - 7.5 is fine.

Basically all bindings these days (especially top end consumer stuff) are tested to conform to DIN/ISO and therefore need to release at all stages of the DIN range (at a certain level of confidence/error)

If you were saying that you wanted to run a binding which is 15 years old and you were going to set it at either extreme then i'd say be a little careful
 
so if I got the STH 14 drivers with a min din of 6 and im at 7 or an 8 Im gonna be fine right? I know the 12s are the same just lower din but would the 14s still work if they're are the only option?
 
you can run a binding at the low portion of the DIN range without any problems, provided the binding is fully functioning etc. You only run into problems when the binding is at the maximum of the DIN range because it is fully compressed and loses its ability to be elastic.
 
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