what dude? read my post again, this time not on drugs, and see that i was pretty clear about what i said, and didnt imply anything negative at all about wilson flips
i said they weren't "realllly" the first because rick r did risky flips before and those were pretty much dub 10s, just more straight up
i was more just saying how it's funny that they didnt catch on when wilson did them, it was def ahead of its time. i remember people calling dubs "circus tricks" and shit
no clue where you got the idea i was discounting wilson or wilson flips in the slightest, man