Mexican gangs threaten to behead DEA agents

Ha they don't know who they're fucking with. One guy gets even captured and we will bring some serious shit to bear on them. We are the USA, and we destroy people who fuck with us. This isn't even a "MERICUHHHH" post, it's just history.
 
So far the mexican drug gangs have been doing a pretty decent job of fucking everyone up themselves.
 
This has nothing to do with my post. Now for some examples: Afghanistan, WWII, Libyan stealth bomber raids. There are probably more I can't think of right now.
 
Lolololol...

Mexican cartels may be enjoying a rennaisance in Juarez and TJ, etc right now, but it's really only because almost NO violence has spilled over the border into the US, which was pretty smart on their part. What's the over/under on how long it takes for them to fuck up trying to strongarm a rediculously well funded and technologically fortified government agency armed to the teeth and get wiped off the earth?
 
technically the Vietnamese didnt fuck with us. We kinda just went over there to help out and ended up in a full scale war. And we could have kept going but with the large protests at home and a very low approval rating the war didnt make sense. So no, the Vietnamese didnt beat us, we beat ourselves.
 
i am european

but wasnt vietnam a win in technical military terms? a pyrrhus-kinda one but still

and your attitude is nice, really guys
 
I don't think you get how organized and incredibly legit Mexican drug cartels are. They run the government and have more money, weapons, and crazy Mexican fuckers than you can imagine.
 
This is true, but they're far less trained, less equipped, and every form of communiction they use can be hacked, monitored, tracked or recorded by the DEA. Literally if they didn't go back to the stone age with note passing, etc. they're fucked completely overnight and the heads of their organization would be grabbed or killed pretty quickly leaving the minions to dictate the next move, which will be to smoke meth and kidnap tourists for ransom.

Just the threat alone no doubt has turned the DEA's attention towards the cartels. The wrong move on their part will spell immediate and tactically superior action by one of our best equipped and least watchdogged bureaus. So yeah, they should probably think that through before they make any hardass moves. The DEA is no joke.
 
One again I think you are underestimating how intelligent the organization actually is. Mexico is a pretty big place and I am sure if they could have had the leaders killed they would have already done so a while ago since drug trafficking from Mexico is a pretty big deal.

Also the DEA is a pretty big joke but just for what it stands for.

Just legalize marijuana and about 75% (random number) of the drug cartels business with be wiped out and a majority of their funding. But I guess coke, heroin, meth, etc is still pretty profitable.
 
Yep. Everyone is fucking ruthless. The cartels run the government while the minions are forced into work out of fear and they are equally ruthless. The bad thing about it is that it's crept up into the US. The grow ops that thy have here in CA are insane and heavily protected.
 
While I agree with you for the most part, the issue that arises comes after the current cartel leaders/members are taken out.

The demand for drugs does not subside. The killing of current cartel members only opens the door for others to try and swoop in to capitalize on an ever-growing market in the U.S. This will most likely lead to more violence (though most of it would be in Mexico/South American countries).

My theory, the U.S. has two options; Either get serious about border control (i.e. build that big wall and use current technologies to monitor activity) or move forward with the legalization of marijuana and put the control with legitimate businesses and out of the hands of the cartels.
 
No, I recognize how large and powerful they are, and no way is the DEA going to go around just popping cartel leaders because they're cartel leaders. Watching a little too much TV?? That's just silly. I'd still put my money on the DEA personally, regardless of "how much of a joke they are" although I don't agree with that assesment at all. You can't beat the DEA, Homeland Security or the CIA, they all just have way too much freedom to operate in and too many resources to employ and the DEA isn't the only agency watching them now.

 
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Wait...what? You were the one who suggested that the DEA was going to kill cartel leaders and that the lower-ups would than try and organize and fail. Which would not be the case.

Also the DEA is a pretty big joke here in the USA...raiding medical marijuana dispensaries and trying to shut down a decently large legitimate operation that helps tens of thousands of people...yah that is totally a good use of tax dollars.

DEA is just a bunch of ignorant people who believe weed/other drugs are the devil and that everyone who does drugs should be thrown in jail to rot because they have no hope in life. When instead they should be trying to treat these people as addicts (real hard drug users) and trying to rehabilitate them and help them with their addictions.
 
Not a bad theory but protecting the border better isn't really a viable option by which to combat this problem. Sure, the drug trade would be somewhat slowed but the problem is not of violent acts happening on the US side- the cartels have been very smart about that. They're saying they don't want the DEA in Mexico, where the fight is to stop the drugs before they get to the border, so in that respect builiding a huge wall at the Rio Grande isn't going to do much to stop the quiet war they're fighting in Mexico.

I do agree with you that marijuana should be leagalized and sold just like alcohol, but yes the majority of their money comes from harder, more expensive drugs. Weed relatively takes up tons of room and isn't that profitable so it's literally the lowest substance on the totem pole as far as profit goes. I don't see a huge drop in Mexican gang activity by legalizing weed, but it would be SOMETHING!
 
Mexico isn't corrupt at all and totally isn't filled with drug cartels...oh wait.

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Absolutely agree with you. I wasn't trying to imply that building a big fence was the best option for trying to slow down drug trafficking, although it might help with other issues the U.S. faces (although this too would only be a band-aid).

I don't know the all of the financials and how they break out for the cartels, so I can't really comment on how the legalization of marijuana in the U.S. would effect their business dealings. However, if you are correct, I find it funny that we spend the majority of our time/money for the "drug war" fighting marijuana. Truly makes no sense.
 
Those aren't just American victorys....... Afganistan is NATO, WW2 was all the allies and Libia is also NATO.
 
I will say this... They are organized, well funded, and most don't just boarder the line of insanity they are legitimately INSANE. EXAMPLE...
http://www.gold-producers.com/MEXICAN_DRUG_LORD.html

However, as an american, the one thing i will never tolerate is my homeland being invaded or attacked. I would enlist today if i knew i needed to protect my beautiful country, and all the rights that i love. My example of this is September 11, 2001. A day that every American will remember for eternity. After one attack the whole country was up in arms, ready to go serve the terrorist a big glass of sit the fuck down!
thats why the idea for the drug cartel coming to America would be a suicide mission.
 
didnt somthing like this already happen? the guy that got shot of a jetski on his honeymoon was killed then the detective working on the case was filed missing then they later retrieved he head in a suitcase sent to the police station he was working at. these mexicans remind me of the native americans living here with us
 
anyone who thought a career with the DEA was a good idea deserves to get there fucking head chopped off.

fuck the police. useless ass waste of tax dollars if you ask me.
 
Oh yea they're a waste of tax dollars. why don't you go get your car stolen then when you are searching for it just your little own self then come back and say the police are a waste of tax dollars. Get learned bitch
 
I'm not pointing this directly at you, but i don't think a lot of people in this thread understand the cartels. For instance, the cartel known as Los Zetas is made up mostly of ex-Mexican Special Forces trained at the School of Americas. SoA is operated by the Department of Defense. Combine that with these guys being FUCKING CRAZY, and it really complicates the situation.

 
you sir are ignorant. We would be so fucked without the DEA and their drug raids. You are only focusing on like 30% of what the DEA does. Weed is a lot lower on their list than Coke Heroin and Meth. And they dont just go around busting local weed dealers. They spend years and years gathering evidence to put away the big fish. Trust me, without the DEA we would be a lot worse off.
 
lol remember when japan thought they could just come over here and attack our largest naval base at the time? respect for japan and all, but that just can't happen.
 
Afghanistan initial invasion was pushed by us. It's a "NATO mission" now but we're still the driving force. We went in there immediately because of 9/11. Pearl Harbor was what brought us into WWII. And the Libya I'm referring to happened in the 80s in response to the Lockerbie bombing.

I was a little wrong in my estimation of how much it would take to really piss us off, but a beheading might just be the thing. Beheading means capturing; deliberate capturing with intent to kill and send a message. It seems most of the other deaths have been more collateral or spur of the moment. Maybe this will be a more gradual buildup but it looks like the result will inevitably be our military intervention in some way.
 
Years and years gathering evidence to eventually bust a dealer and his stash. Oh wait, there are others waiting to take that dealers place, get drugs fronted, make cash, and repeat. Do you not see the massive waste of tax dollars here? Without the DEA we would have funding to addiction centers to help addicts. We would have something like heroin-assisted treatment facilities similar to Holland. And we would be BETTER off than funding the massive thuggish gang known as the DEA. I'm sorry, but people need to wake up and realize how much tax payer money is wasted on the DEA and similar operations. Ron Paul is probably the only politician that will actually preach about this, but listen to him when he speaks about it and you will understand.
 
Epic lol to the people who think the DEA will win the war on drugs.

It's been going on for 40 years now and shit has only gotten worse. Why do you think all of a sudden that's going to change.

The cartels will only continue to WIN until the current approach is changed.
 
Thank fucking God at least some people in this thread know how to think.

The DEA doesn't do shit except bully people around. They has been no evidence to show that the war on drugs has even come close to succeeding. They are wasting their time treating people as drug addicts. They shot innocent people's dogs for christ sake and kill innocent people just because they are armed with machine guns and full swat gear going to raid some pot dealers house. If that isn't excessive force than I don't know what is.
 
Have you ever seen Clear and Present Danger? I know its a movie but that shit really happens. They send in covert teams all the time and bomb villas once they have enough evidence. I agree it needs to happen more frequently and on a larger scale though.
 
At this point it is almost too late. It is to late for an easy solution, if we decided to eradicate them there will be a lot of blood shed, on both sides. The Mexican cartels, especially the zetas, are already well intrenched in the United States, with large organizations dug in as far north as New York city, and WA.

They have been killing U.S. citizens in the U.S. for the last few years, the federal government choses to publicly ignore this crisis so as not to loose the Latino vote.
 
well I think hes right that legalizing drugs would ruin the black market. People could simply buy their drugs from legitimate sources. BUT do we want people to be able to just buy all that crazy shit?
 
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