MESSAGE TO ALL THE GIRLS

bahahah agreed. i could go on for about a half hour about this but im gonna keep my mouth shut and let the boys have their glory.
 
well, for me, its something i wish i had the guts to tell a girl that i know pretty well. i think i got myself friendzoned. she always complains that there is no such thing as a good guy, or a guy with the qualities she wants, but i feel she overlooks me due to our friendship

its such a ball breaker
 
that's exactly it!! tell her. some way, some how.. the "nice guys" never let the girl know. and i know i know it's way fucking intimidating, because there is that chance of rejection, but what do you have to lose? she's already your friend. if she rejects you it means from being anything farther than that; you shouldn't lose her as a friend if that happens. so what are you gonna do? keep living the way you are? or eventually tell her.but haha i know a few girls that have been attracted to the "nice guy". my good friend dumped her dickhead boyfriend for the nice guy (that was actually dick heads best friend). i mean i was into this one guy who is exactly that - the nice guy - at one point (and yes i would complain all the time about the assholes in my life) but now i just wrote it off because he never had the balls.i need a man with balls. lmao.and that takes me to where i am now.. single and falling for all the assholes.
 
as exhibit would say in a situation like this.......

CCCCCCHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUUURRRRRCCCCHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
don't become an asshole

i'm sure you have heard this one a million times before

but if you really are a nice guy you will find a girl who deserves you

 
I must admit i really wasnt expecting girls to be upset by this... I assumed it was just a known fact that this was the situation.

Traditionally, the guy has always been labelled as the asshole, whereas the girl is uber nice and sweet. What i've noticed in my own recently ended relationship, as well as those of my close male friends, is that alot of girls are very comfortable walking all over their boyfriends, treating them poorly, and generally being unappreciative of our kind gestures. I find it really bothersome. By no means do I expect to marry a girl who is going to sit at home while I go to work and never open up her mouth. However, I find ALOT of girls my age (mid 20's) and a little bit younger are very disrespectful to their boyfriends. I find this behaviour to be atrocious; I had to make a conscious decisions to remove myself from that type of mess...frankly I would rather roll solo than have to deal with a girl who has a generally lousy attitude. This coming from a guy who (at least in my mind) did everything to please my gf for a long period of time, only to be taken down a notch on a pretty consistent basis.

Anyways, this is just one man's opinion and experience. Talk on

 
Me either, I'm just always nice to girls, specifically one. We're sophomores in high school, she's dating a sophomore in college.
 
just be a nice guy with the balls to say no every once in a while (we do have girlfriends we cry and whine the same exact story over to) and tell them how you really feel instead of letting the woman be superior in the relationship.
note: this doesn't make you an asshole. it just keeps us from taking you, then nice guy, for granted. not being available all the time means there's a chase. that's always fun (and also what the makes the assholes that much more attractive)
maybe im just talking some strange language that only girls understand..shit, maybe im making no sense at all.
 
ok well my sitch was i met this girl first year college and we started hanging out more and more, she started coming over when she wanted and started going to dinners and stuff it got to the point where people actually thought we were dating but she kept saying were best friends so christmas ev she came over to my place for dinner and we had a good time my fam loved her and they all thought we were dating so when i got her back to her place we exchanged our gifts and on the card i wrote how i lfelt and then after she read it i basically told again how i felt and then she whent off the deep end saying how we were just friends how we will never be anything else, and that she liked some other person (who ended up being my best friend who had a gf) and that she could never see me as that... so it blew up in my face. not to say im not the nice guy still i am and i dont think ill never be the asshole cuz thats not just me. im the nice kinda shy guy

END RANT

sry had to get it out
 
not trying to sond like a prick but honestly i was in this same position sophmore year and it is weird cause i was always considered like such a nice guy and a friend and it drove me crazy cause girls would ignore me.. i became that ass and it really does work i know it sounds terrible but it completely works girls can bash me and people can say im wrong but in my personal experience it worked. This does not mean that i am like a dick to my gf i actually treat the quite nicely (home cooked meals, flowers, presents) ext. but to get a randy hook up u gotta be an ass.....
 
agreed.

I dated the asshole once...just once...and it ended in really bad news. I was with my ex for a long time...and he was almost too nice. Would bend over backwards to please me even when i was totally in the wrong. I started looking for things to piss him off just to get a reaction out of him, and ended up breakign up for a while. When he grew a pair and could tell me flat out what i was doign wrong and get shit worked out, we got back together.

Girl don't see past nice guys, We just want a nice guy with balls

But thats just my personal preference.
 
word I did this shit with one of my ex gf's cuz she was incredibly hot and lost her because of it. Got her by being nice but I still did my own thing, partied when I wanted, and talked to mad other girls, and it got her crazy for me...8 months later, I was practically her bitch and got deaded. Never again w/ that
 
That was intense.

But its true...I dont usually fall for the assholes I can see right through them which is nice. They play you then leave you, its worthless. Nice guys usually win in my book.
 
Woah that's pretty intense/upsetting.

Hope there are still some nice guys around. But looking at this story has made me re-assess what I do quite offputting I must say.
 
I didn't read the whole thread so it might have been said or debated. But I used to be that nice guy just cus I was to shy, but I have a nice personality overall. Now I balled up and I can still be nice, but I'm more flirtatious and outgoing, but not an asshole. I really don't like being an asshole.
 
hahaha, that letter was hilarious and exactly true. I have gotten laid being the nice guy, its not impossible at all, it actually can be easy if the girl is attracted to you.

And drew, just because you read some stupid book about how to get laid, does not mean you have it all figured out. All women are different and were raised differently.
 
I was going to say just that. While there are certain types of actions/behaviors that may appeal to perhaps many girls, there is so set formula that you simply apply that results in you getting the girl.
But I really enjoyed reading that.
 
i was thinking about this subject this morning.
i would say im a nice guy with a pair. i will do things for my lady (dont have one now because of what she did to me). I see things pretty much black and white and when i want something my way it is thoroughly expressed. but i do love pleasing too. I always open the car door for the girl, i cook dinner, i listen and offer advice, i make her laugh, take her out to dinner, compliments and all and let her know she is the only one in my eyes but i am still me, cause thats what attracted us.

then she hooked up with a guy i knew while we were dating and i stopped trying... which ended it.

 
hah, wow...

I'm nice but I'm not a bitch. seriously though you need to have your own life in order to be in a good relationship. like have other things to do too besides her.

like when i hang out with my girlfriend i just do nice stuff for her without her asking for any of it, and then shes like "you really are the bomb." and i'm like "yeah, i know"
 
Many valid points in this thread. I think that I'm going to agree with Drew on this one, though I've been the "nice guy" before, like everyone else.
 
according to evolutionary psycology, everyone is mostly consernd with reproduction and survival. women have in innate instinct to find a man who is going to help her and her offspring survive. This is why women are looking for the alpha male asshole that they usually date.
 
Or, alternatively, they're just not attracted to you at all. The whole being a "nice guy" or an "asshole" really doesn't matter at all, every women has a different taste for what kind of personality traits they want in a guy. You can be honest with someone and tell them exactly how you feel and still be a "nice guy". That fact of the matter is you're probably just not attractive to them...so move on and look elsewhere.
 
Same nonsense happens to me, some girl i've known since 6th grade probably wouldn't go out with me (not that i've mentioned it to her) because i'm her friend. People think that once your labeled boy/girlfriend the attitudes of those people suddenly change. Like my friends going "no gotta hang with my gf" in response to " lets go do something". People are always trying to go on dates with each other in my school, but the word date is merely a label that somehow changes the whole activity. If i went skiing with he girl i mentioned first she would probably consider it a date, but i would want it to seem as regular of a ski day as it would normally be without her.
 
that article was perfect, ahahaha made me lol actually. and there are many many good points in this thread i love it!!!! its great reading it and easy to side with every good point said!

I definitely want to send that article to some girls, thats great.

But really i dont blame girls for liking guys who are tall, good looking and strong/athletic. At my age, (junior highschool) everyone is shallow, I am too, im a short ugly azn dude, 5'5" and i have, not proudly, set standards for myself, just from highschool clicks, and social status and stuff. Its pisses me off big time but I can really do anything about it.

I am more kind of the nice guy too and when i was in that position, with regret, it is hard to man up and try and tell the girl how you feel.

and if you are a nice guy, like others said, you have to have your own personalities and stuff you love just as much or more then the girl your into. your life can rely and support eachother but shouldnt revolve around just being with her and doing stuff only with her.
 
I've found that if you're rude or disrespectful to girls it gets their attention and then you just be nice to them. Be mean to them superficially like call them fat or joke with them a lot (be meeeaannn the meaner and the more honest the better), but then be really nice to them where it counts like pay for dinner and always show up on time and make them feel like you really really care about them. Girls (especially extremely atractive ones) are suckers for abuse and honesty becuase they have never been told the truth about themselves in their entire lives and they are sick of people treating them like queens just because they are pretty, they want to have flaws, they want to be joked about.

Be a dick, but be caring, thats my mantra.

I did have a bad "friend" experience with a girl. I had meet her over winter break last year and talked to her online for most of second semester, and we got really close. So when I came home for summer break I just assumed that we would be together. When I got home I learned that she was dating one of my friends and just didn't think of me "that way". I called her out on her bullshit (clearly she liked me a lot because she had talked to me from thousands of miles away everyday for a couple of months) and just stopped hangng out around her because I was pissed at her for being a bitch. Come the end of summer she realized that her boyfriend sucked and never did anything with her and she came crawling back to me saying that she had liked me all along and was just put off by how nice I was to her and she didn't realize how much she liked me until I stopped talking to her. Turning her down was shitty because I still liked her but I couldn't get over how big of a bitch she was at the begining of the summer and how she could have had me but missed it.

So if you're on the friend lader with a girl and you want to date her just stop talking to her and she will start to miss you and want to be with you.
 
i'm going to sa the same thing i said to him......



don't become an asshole

if you really are a nice guy you will find a girl who deserves you.... seriously i mean this

 
women are attracted to confident men. you can be a confident, nice guy and get plenty of girls. just gotta know how to play your cards right...its really not that hard.
 
nah, your making perfect sense. you continue to post and rant only to realize by the end your self-contradiction and that "oh shit, they're right"

....and i'm by no means a nice guy, but smart enough to know this is true of most if not all bar-scene late teens/20s age girls.
 
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