McCain's running mate is the Alaskan Governor??!

I haven't been following the debate but i think it is posts like these that make Josh question your reasoning abilities when approaching a political issue. To say that you don't care what someone thinks and to use your own beliefs as your only defense for your argument does sound "like a 10 year old," as Josh mentioned before. If you were to approach the issue using a fact based approach and by using logical arguments rather than using only opinions and your beliefs, people might take your beliefs a little more seriously, no matter how much they disagree with what you are saying.

 
hey so im pretty into politics but can i just make it short and sweet and say aspen dukes is a crazy bitch? thats just what i gather from this thread. and also, this is for the democrats. hilary voters will never vote for her shes anti abortion, also she is very inexperienced so they cant really hit obama on that anymore
 
she reformed but in the wrong way. it all boils down to issues and money. she wont list polar bears and endangered so she can drill in alaska and not risk getting in trouble. not to mention, she runs on family values however she has a 5 month old baby with down syndrome whom she left when it was 3 days old to go back to work. thats not family values to me.
 
Reading a lot of what you've written I tend to think differently, but you're dead on for all of that.
 
actually she's not. She wants there to be elective creationism classes in schools.. much like there are elective science classes or shop classes. You don't have to take them but they are there for anyone to take. and based on experience I would take a governor of two years over a senator of four. By no means is this swinging my vote to McCain.. I'm just saying..
 
With pepper spray though you have to point...aim...fire. With a gun you point...aim...fire. I'll clarify this for you though...I'm not going to take my gun out in the middle of a mall, a crowded parking lot or in the middle of NYC. I'm pretty sure in a scenery such as those a person would be less likely to attack, but if someone were to attack I'm also pretty sure someone would be willing to jump them and help me out. My gun is for my property and when I am walking to my truck at 10pm by myself in a parking lot.

So with lots of people around - no gun.

By myself - gun.
 
the cops reasoning ability's are going to be better then yours, they now how to use there guns against asalents have you trained to do that, o yes you've spent a couple days at a firering range that makes you a navy seal right?
 
well it seems like she spends a good deal of time shooting. she prob knows her shit. prob more than a lot of cops. also, cops kill innocent people all the time.

but I just don't want to get in a shootout. I learned a while ago that running is always the best option. you can't get in trouble, can't hurt anyone, can't get sued, can't get hurt unless you trip.
 
i love how republicans base their image off of family values, when this woman has a 4 month old baby with downsyndrome, and she's like PEACE! im runnin fo vice bitchhhhhhhh
 
would you say the same thing if rolls were reversed? i would.

imagine if those pictures had hillary in them..... or barack being portrayed as just another "black" guy...

this is exactly what those commics do, they insult women in general, and do not serve a purpose other than to show that the artist IS A FUCKING PIG!

 
It was a really dumb idea for McCain to chose her. Everyone can see right through him. All he's trying to do is get hilary's votes. For christ sake, during her adress in Ohio after she had been chosen, she talked about hilary and how she respected her and that

“Hillary left 18 million cracks in the highest, hardest glass ceiling in America, but it turns out the women of America aren’t finished yet, and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all"

it's kind of appaling the level that American Politics has dropped to.
 
But Barack IS a "black" guy, and those jokes would probably be funny.

I'm imagining you either doing air quotes when saying black or saying and black and turning all around to see if someone thought you were racist.
 
Two little things for reading today... First, that corruption scandal about using her office to fire her ex brother in law. Palin had better hope this doesn't have time to go through before election day.

"Palin is likely to be deposed soon in the case, according to State Sen.

Hollis French, who leads the state Senate's Legislative Counsel

Committee.

French's committee unanimously authorized an investigation into the

dismissal of the state's public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, who

claims he balked at pressure to remove Trooper Mike Wooten, who had an

acrimonious divorce from Palin's sister.

"I saw e-mails from [independent investigator Stephen]

Branchflower two days ago to the Department of Law saying it's time to

schedule a deposition of the governor, her chief of staff and the

attorney general who had some contact with the case," French tells

ABCNews.com."

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Secondly, from earlier this month: Palin ENDORSES Senator Obama's energy plan! So... um... what about McCain's energy plan?

Palin Pleased with Obama's Energy Plan

Includes Alaska's Natural Gas Reserves Print Now Printer Friendly

No. 08-135

August 4, 2008, Fairbanks, Alaska - Governor Sarah Palin today

responded to the energy plan put forward by the presumptive Democratic

nominee for President, Illinois Senator Barack Obama.

"I am pleased to see Senator Obama acknowledge the huge potential

Alaska’s natural gas reserves represent in terms of clean energy and

sound jobs," Governor Palin said. "The steps taken by the Alaska State

Legislature this past week demonstrate that we are ready, willing and

able to supply the energy our nation needs."

In a speech given in Lansing, Michigan, Senator Obama called for the

completion of the Alaska natural gas pipeline, stating, "Over the next

five years, we should also lease more of the National Petroleum Reserve

in Alaska for oil and gas production. And we should also tap more of

our substantial natural gas reserves and work with the Canadian

government to finally build the Alaska natural gas pipeline, delivering

clean natural gas and creating good jobs in the process."

Governor Palin also acknowledged the Senator’s proposal to offer

$1,000 rebates to those struggling with the high cost of energy.

"We in Alaska feel that crunch and are taking steps to address it

right here at home," Governor Palin said. "This is a tool that must be

on the table to buy us time until our long-term energy plans can be put

into place. We have already enjoyed the support of Alaska Senator Ted

Stevens, and it is gratifying to see Senator Obama get on board."

 
guys and girls, this lady is seriously about to suck at her job lol. she has no opinion on anything, no foreign policy experience and mccain didnt choose her for any reason in particular, except that shes quiet and has little experience, making her inferior and leaps and bounds different from anyone like hillary clinton, for all those hillary admirers... this is not your lady of choice to have mccain be picking . and is very unqualified to be our president because inevitably mCCain is going to die in office. mothafucka's 72... making him 80 by the time hes done. high stress job and a history of illness and unstable health gonna kill the man? i bet so. this lady has crazyass plans left and right. lol, this palin person wants to teach creationism in our public school system, why is that even an issue right now? what a dumb bitch; missing the point of this election. she needs to stfu about her own intentions and keep sucking mccains old wrinkly penis. on an issue i somewaht agree on though, we do have to start drilling that oil in alaska to get off the nuts of the arab oil market and become a bit more self reliant in that aspect while we create sufficient alternative energy sources. bam. soooo yeah, i think this ladies crazy. nothing against alaska/ans though, i love dat fuckin place. bomb pow. cya-
 
thanks for posting this. I mentioned this before but i didnt have the article on it. but her statement on her website saying she endorses obama's energy plan was deleted the morning of the announcement of being running mate......silly isn't it?
 
yeah, she ENDORSES getting AMERICA'S natural resources......

im not seeing anything about inflating tires, getting off middle eastern oil in 10 YEARS...

i see her agreeing on natural GAS, not the whole obama plan...

so doesnt this speak volumes about McCain,? he is willing to work with people of different opinions......

"and it is gratifying to see Senator Obama get on board."

doesnt this imply that OBAMA joined her? not the other way around?

because last i heard she wants TO DRILL IN ANWR!!!!!

 
what the fuck does it matteR? its the idea, its the intent, its the action. crazyass lady trying to teach me about religion vs. science when i already believe sciene. this lady will get herself in trouble, i wonder if this is causing any clashing between republicans and those of religious backgrounds in the middle states. -obamaaa
 
i think all issues aside... this choice says a lot about mccains character...

he has met this woman ONE time previously before choosing her as a running mate. does this not seem like an impulsive decision to anyone?

makes me wonder if hes that impulsive with all his decision making... with a war going on and the conflict between russia and georgia i doubt that kind of mindset is going to do any good.

kind of reminiscent of another president we've had. look where his impulsive decisions got us...
 
ANSWER MY DAMN QUESTION!

would you say the same thing if the rolls were reversed?

i think i am going to make a hypothetical poster with something along the lines of

"50 cent, and old bloated women" both full of hot air....

NOW I WANT YOU TO TELL ME NS WOULDNT BE GOING APESHIT ON ME!!!!! TELL ME THAT!
 
Yeah, I'm crazy like Palin. I carry a gun AND I'm a conservative. Unlike her though I am not a life-time member of the NRA. Don't you guys know that it's ok to carry a gun? And no, I haven't spent days at a gun range. I spent months at a gun range. No one wins or loses this argument. It's ALL based on opinion and personal preference.

When I'm out with my friends I don't have my gun on me because I don't feel I need it since they are my friends and everyone of them is bound to have a cellphone and sharp nails. I have my gun (most of the time) when I do to the mall - concealed though. Again when I am at the mall I am hoping that if I get jumped someone is bound to see me. When I am by myself I have my gun on me. Sometimes I work the nightshift, and then at the end of my shift I have to walk a quarter mile to my car in the dark. I just don't care to have pepper spray on me. Pepper spray and guns have different effects on muggers and such. It's just preference, guys. No one can win or lose this argument. So just end it.

Sorry, Allan. You can't have any because unlike you your Tingas_Hats roomie is really nice and he made me a sick hat. Oh, and we got into a deep conversation about food. So uhhh yeah.
 
I have no problem with ppl carrying guns. If I could carry a concealed pistol, I would, but CT laws make it a process, so I haven't, yet. Obama is for gun control, not disarmament, which I support. Why not put more control on guns? Would you just hand out driver's licenses to anyone who wants one, without knowing if they know what the 'D' means on an autoshift? Same applies to guns. I wouldn't give anyone a gun without knowing for sure that they're responsible, and that's what control means. Obama stands for the constitution, which says that we have a right to bear arms, so it's worldplay when people associate him with barring guns, he simply wants to regulate how ppl get them. Anyone with sense knows that a nation without guns won't stop killing, a nation without killers would stop killing.

On another note, if a friend of yours was raped and impregnated, would you support her right to abort the pregnancy? Palin's sense leads her to say 'no', which is certianly not sensible enough to run this country.
 
did you even read what i said? Knowing yourself has nothing to do with anything i said. I was just pointing out why you have been drawing so much heat when you post about controversial issues and a way you may be able to work around it. I guess my point was missed and it is obvious by this post that nothing is going to change.
 
No, I understand where you all are getting at. I am not going to deny that in a situation I could hurt myself, but if someone is trying to hurt me or my family there is going to be hell to pay.

You can call me "The Bride".

LAWL.
 
I bet she wouldn't let a girl get an abortion if that happened, but if you are a teen having unprotected sex and you get pregnant - that's your fault. If the condom fails or the pills fails you still should pay the consequences. Rape is another thing.
 
But with that said...

I don't know what I would do if I got pregnant because my birth control failed. I know it's my fault, but I still don't want a kid that I didn't plan to have.
 
i would like to see you get jumped in an alley at midnight and be able to use your gun. really, i'm sure it'd be really easy to over power a man, grab your gun then be able to shoot him right? basically you're asking to get killed carrying a gun. you're gonna try to pull that shit out or you're going to pull it out and get shot. but hey, it will always save your life right?
 
HAHAH! Dude Obama "got on board" to the new pipeline she built. Of course she is happy with it numnuts. Seriously, I though you'd read more into it than just the headlines.

Second, I cannot believe democrats are standing up for that police man. Y'all are pathetic.

As for those comics, I wish someone would come out with and equivalent to woman but black for Obama, and see the hell it raises.
 
honestly? who the fuck are you to say she is trying to teach me religion when I already believe science. haaa, what if someone believes religion and our schools make them learn science. that was the stupidest justification i've ever heard.
dems get your head out of your asses. if y'all wanna help people with health, do it with your own fucking money! take the initiative instead of spending your own money and bitching that republicans wont do more.
 
OR I could spray myself in the eye with my pepper spray accidentally, then get raped and then possibly get killed after that.

Sarcasm.

Sorry, but I still have my gun. Good try though.
 
So you really think the American people will be outraged that she tried to get her little sister's psychopath ex-husband removed from the police force? The guy who tasered his eleven year old son and threated to kill his father-in-law? You think the voters will choose the candidate who plagiarizes speeches and repeatedly makes blatantly racist remarks in public over the candidate who stuck up for her little sister?

I'm not saying that what she did was right - though I don't really know the details of it - but I can see this coming back to bite the Dems when the public learns more about the alleged "scandal." Also, keep in mind that she's made a lot of enemies in the political arena by aggressively going after corruption, so take anything you hear from Alaskan politicians with a grain of salt.

 
Why is everyone trying to argue about this stuff? I bet there are about 5 other recent threads exactly like this, and they all end the same.
 
nahh... im 99% sure its not you that i need answers from... i was fighting with other people... lol..

but if you want to join in just read over the last page...
 
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