Matrix Revolutions Ending (don't read if you haven't seen it)

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That was the worst ending I have ever seen. After a year or two of buildup and prophecies yadayadayada, they call a fucking TRUCE??!! What the hell, Neo should have killed the Machines somehow, or Zion should have been destroyed, but they definitely shouldn't have just gone back to the way everything was before. No humans were better off, nor were the machines, and neither was I. The action was good overall, but the movie had the worst ending ever.

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i know , i was thinking that they where going to kill all the machines but noooooo they made peace. wasnt the whole idea of the first one is to get rid of the machines?????? i think so

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i mean , for the people to rule the world again i thought that was the whole thing to get rdi of the machines

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Worst movie ever. I couldn't believe how poorly written and made that film was, it was nothing more than a 2 hour special effects extravaganza. Ridiculous, so many glitches in the plot.

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^poorly written!? u are the dumbest dumbfuck in the world if u could fucking understand it u would fucking realize how insanly fucking well written it was. the only fucking reason u people dont like it is because u dont know shit about fuck! it was incredibly well written and it was exactly how they wanted it so fucking shut the fuck up! FUCK!

 
^ can you just stop acting like you are the only person that got the movie.

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The movie was incredibly easy to understand, they just had plot holes you could drive a truck through. At the end, the machine leader says that they can't stop the program Smith, but when Neo is about to die at the end of the battle, the machine leader sends a surge of power/energy/jizz through the plug into Neo in the matrix, and it is that power that kills Smith. Why did they need Neo if it turns out the machine could have killed him in the first place? And why would the machines call a truce if they know that the humans are just going to come at them again once they regroup? They have been fighting for the last 200 or so years, and now that they have the humans on the verge of extinction, why would they ever stop? Just to honor their agreement with Neo? Give me a break.

Could one of you 'enlightened' 12 year olds who think that the Matrix is the best movie ever explain those questions to my feeble brain?

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first off, how the hell do you know the machines killed him by a 'power surge'? i dont think that is what happened. anyway, lets get to your questions. They called a truce because they wouldnt have been able to stop Smith. nothin more nothing less. and they dont want the humans extinct, that was never ever their goal. they need them for survival. if you remember from the second movie, the little scene when the counselor and neo go down to the mechanical level, they talk about machines and humans, and it is established that they each need the other to survive. that is why it all ends in a truce.

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No, if they killed all the humans in Zion, they would still have the ones that they use for energy in the little pod farms. If they got rid of the resistance, they would never have to worry about any humans ever again, and that's why the truce was retarded for the machines.

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well, some one took the time to spell most of it out. Yeah, they should have stopped after the first one.

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I heard some girls talking after the movie,and remember the scene when someone told Neo about some mathematic function and stability and shit? Well,the girls thought that Agent Smith was the x factor and needed some kind of (damn my english is weakening ) result for that equation,so Neo was a result,but when he changed the last other being than Smith into himself,there was no result,so the equation was unstable,so Smith got jacked good.

What I'm wondering,is Sati. Is she the new One? 'Cos in the end the Oracle askes her if she did the sunrise and she answers yes. How the hell could she do that?

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Ok first off your all stupid. Second the reson that Smith died was because he contradicted he own existance, he siad 'Evey beging must have an end'. He was a program and by saying that he killed him self, the big power surge that you saw was Neo getting taken over by the Smith Virus. THe only logical reson the mechine made the allignce with Neo and humens was because if the Smith Vuris distroyed the Matrix like he was doing. If all the humens would have died makeing no power so no more mechine world, but yes it was a shity ending but it was the best possible one they could have had.

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ok... im pretty sure there was a lot more to it than any of you guys have mentioned so far. but yeah there were holes... then again some of them would be pretty damn hard to fill. did noen of you get the other themes besides people vs. machines? there are obvious references to spirituality and various world religions... think about it a bit more, most of it makes sense... except some of the shit the machines just happen to do... programs... yeah.

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there is no way they could have ended it perfectly. i think that considering the philosophy and the religous parallels through all the films that they ended it pretty much the best they could.

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Was it as good as the other 2? No.

Was it a good movie? Yes.

Was I disapointed with the ending? Yes.

Could they have made it better? Probably not.

I just wish they spent more time fighting in the Matrix than with the machines. Any movie can have gun fights. I wanted to see more kick-ass Kung Fu.

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if I was the machines I totally would have gone back on my word and kicked the humans asses once the smiths were dead and neo was gone. but I guess they can't. My favorite line was when the oracle asked the architect if he was gonna hold true to his word, and he said 'I'm not human you know'. I thought that was great.

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Here are all the thoughts i have left over, the machines agree to free anyone who wishes to leave...so if this was to happen do you think people would leave...as well why would they do this, it's their only power source...and why would the humans instead of fighting with those mech thingys just built an emp charge and set that off against the first wave...? sure it might mess up computers but that was all fixed fast and then they could just use the mech warrior things for the 2nd wave...

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the ending was pretty bad.. the whole movie was pretty bad.. there were a few good parts but it wasnt nearly as good as the other 2

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my interpretattion of the ending was that the matrix is a program with an if statement at the end that reads something like...WHen Smith DIes/When the world ends, restart. therefore, when smith finishes off the matrix and kills neo and dies, the matrix reboots itself and start anew, with neo I guess being reborn every time (wasnt this explained in the second movie?) and then verything makes sense. And Maybe the thing that changed in this 'loop' of the matrix is that the two sides are at peace.

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I thought the ending was fine. There were some definate holes in the story, but they leave some of those things to your imagination. Also, after watching the revolutions, then the first and second, you pick more things up, that sort of fill the holes in a way. It could have been a better movie, but it was still good.

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ya i dont see why everyone says the matrix sucked, it like the cool thing to say now. i thought the matrix movies where good, i do realize there where wholes in the story but it thosent really take away from the fact that the movies was well made and was entertaining as well as provocative.

 
This is long but if you have time read it.

At it's most basic element, I believe that Reloaded and Revolutions were about choice. I know that's a pretty broad statement, but let's examine it.

Neo asks the Oracle, 'But if you already know, how can I make a choice?' to which she replies 'Because you didn't come here to make the choice, you've already made it. You're here to try to understand why you made it.'

Smith tells Neo, 'We're not here because we're free, we're here because we're not free. There's no escaping reason, no denying purpose - because as we both know, without purpose, we would not exist.'

The Merovingian states, 'Causality. There is no escape from it, we are forever slaves to it. Our only hope, our only peace is to understand it, to understand the `why.' '

The Architect tells Neo, 'As you adequately put, the problem is choice. But we already know what you are going to do, don't we?' and 'As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level.'

Now what can we gather from all thus mumbo jumbo? Basically, it's a blend of the old 'Fate versus Free Will' argument and the Hindu belief in Karma. Let's first assume that every decision we make is based on thousands of factors which are beyond our control. This would mean that every decision we make is predetermined by these factors. This is no good, because that means that there is no such thing as choice. Without choice we have no free will--no opportunity to consciously decide our own future. The Hindu law of Karma states, 'For every action you take there will be a reaction in the future.' This means that when you make a choice, you are responsible for the repercussions. If fate is determining the outcome of our choices, then how can we be held responsible for the repercussions? Thus we get to the Merovingians 'why'. The purpose of our lives is not to make choices, but to learn to live with them.

The Oracle represents a good example of the 'Fate versus Free Will' aspect. In the original Matrix she tells Neo, 'would you still have broken it if I hadn't said anything... ' after he knocks over a vase. Does the Oracle truly predict events, or is she able to see the various factors and influence them to achieve the outcome that she desires? She presents Neo with many choices, to which she already knows the outcome. The fact that she presents them as choices, though, makes Neo believe that he is directly responsible for the outcome, because he 'consciously' made the choice. Thus he is able to live with the repurcussions.

The Architect, relying purely on mathematical concepts, could not understand choice as anything other than a variable. In his mind, when one choice is made you simply move on to the next one, then the next one, etc. The Oracle gained the insight that humans must believe they make each decision, otherwise they can not deal with the results and move on to the next one. The Architect states, '...as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level.' Thus each human is able to accept living within the Matrix because their minds believe that they choose to live there.

Then we come to Neo. Like the people of Zion, Neo is 'flawed' because he chose not to accept the Matrix. He also took the next step and accepted that he could control the Matrix because of the various decisions he had made. While the Architect predicted that this would occur, the belief in choice was so vital to the Matrix's continuaty that he was forced to allow it. His solution? To orchistrate events so that this anomaly would have to choose to return to the Matrix. The success of the Matrix is that those whom it controls believe that they choose to be controlled and therefore accept this fact. Neo chose not to return to the Source, as his 5 predecessors had.

If everything in the Matrix was created with the Architect's precision, then there would always have to be balance. Since Neo tipped the balance, Agent Smith became the counter-weight. In essence, an anti-Neo. Whereas Neo was the ultimate expression of freedom, Smith was the ultimate expression of control. As Neo became more powerful, Smith did also in order to compensate. After he was initially destroyed, Smith's purpose became to eliminate Neo. Since Neo had entered him, Smith gained Neo's belief that he controlled his own destiny.

Now there are two ways to explain the end. Smith assimilated Neo and therefore no longer had a purpose. Without a purpose, he had no reason to exist. Since the machines were now jacked into Agent Smith through Neo, they used his connection in order to delete Agent Smith (they could not do this sooner since Neo freed him from their control). Alternately, Smith could have merged with Neo and then the machines returned Neo to the Source (the power surge we see), taking Agent Smith along with him.

Either way, Neo made the decision to help the machines eliminate Agent Smith at the cost of his own life. Perhaps this was the reason that the machines ceased their battle in Zion. If one man would sacrifice himself for the machines, perhaps they could learn to live in harmony. Assuming, of course, that a whole lot of other people chose to sacrifice themselves by staying in the Matrix and providing power for the Machines. D'oh!

To be honest, I'm not sure where the Wachowski brothers were going with this. Was it to illustrate how the humans' belief in free will conflicted with the machines' belief in predestination? Could machines learn to live for the simple point of living while the humans discover their purpose? Was it to show how the humans and machines learned something about each others' beliefs and therefore gained a greater understanding, allowing them to live in harmony? Who knows!

One thing I do know is that they sure couldn't call this move Matrix: Resolutions. The ambiguity over whether or not Neo was dead or alive bothered me. The fact that the Architect stated he would free those who desired it (If everyone in the Matrix had made a nearly unconscious decision to stay there, then at any time could they not have made the decision to leave? Technically then, he did allow everyone who wished to leave the ability to do so.) was odd, due to the fact that if you freed everyone in the Matrix you would eventually run out of power. I know he said that they had contingencies, but he didn't seem to think too highly of them. Were man and machine therefore supposed to live in a symbiotic relationship with each other? If the little Indian girl was smuggled into the Matrix because she had no purpose, why was she controlling the sunrise? What happened to all the people that Agent Smith assimilated? Maybe we'll just have to wait for Matrix: Tieing up all the loose ends...

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how long did that take you to write? You have a point though, about choice. Another thing that made me think was when Agent Smith and Neo were in that puddle and Smith was asking why Neo kept on fighting. I think that's significant in some way, cause Neo says 'cause I choose to'.

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I thought that when Smith put himself into Neo in the crater in the Matrix Neo let him do so because he knew that it was what he had to do. By putting himself in Neo, Agent Smith left a piece of himself in Neo (because in the first movie, when Neo jumps into agent Smith he leaves a piece of himself there; hence why agent Smith is now 'free'). So when enough of agnet SMith was in Neo, the machines simply dleted Neo, thus deleting agent Smith. So Neo is gone forever, which he doesn't mind because he had already lost trinity and he knew Morpheus would be proud of him anyway, and he defeated agent Smith. So Neo had nothing left to live for.

 
You stupid jews. Neo is Jesus anmd Smith is sin. I think that is pretty obvious, and also, look at the trilogy as a whole big movie and it works alot better. I liked all of the movies, and part of the reason for the plot holes was to keep the audience thinking. It was simply to keep the mysticism alive so DVD sales will sky rocket.

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here is something i found:

by AgentJones

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Neo is a machine, kinda. He is a human with enhanced genetics, enhanced implants, and a machine programmed mind (probably based on a 'The One' template program). That's why, at the end of Revolutions, when his body is being taken away, he is shown as an orange glow. The orange glow is how the machines see each other, and therefore how they see Neo. It is also how Neo sees Smith inside Bane... he is seeing the machine program of Smith inside Bane's mind, and therefore it is an orange glow in the shape of the Smith.

But the orange glow isn't the only reason to believe Neo is a machine. Throughout the trilogy other hints are given, such as: 'His neural kinetics are way above normal.', 'He's a machine.', 'Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication...', etc.

So if Neo is a machine, why was he created (as all machines must have a purpose)? He was created by the Oracle and the Architect to be The One. As the Architect explains to him: 'Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the Matrix... Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication, a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of The One... The function of The One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program.'

Translated, the Architect is explaining that Neo was designed to be a religious figure to the freed humans, thus causing them to put their faith (hope) in Neo and to rally around him ('...sum of a remainder...'). This helps to ensure that the freed humans are focused on Neo instead of war, and to keep them all together in one place, Zion (which was built by the machines for this purpose also). Neo is a form of control in the real world.

And just to make sure that Neo carries out his part of their plan, the machines programmed him with '... a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the humans.' This, along with his enhanced abilities and the 'guidance' of the Oracle, keeps him on the intended course.

The Architect also states that 'The function of The One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program.' This simply means that The One program in Neo's mind is the most important (prime) program in the Matrix, and that now that his mission (purpose) is complete, he must return to the source for deletion (all machines must have a purpose). The phrase '... temporary dissemination...' means that the The One program will be used again in the next version of the Matrix. This is also why Neo's choice of the left door will destroy the Matrix, as there can be only one The One in the Matrix at any time. By staying in the Matrix Neo is preventing it from being reloaded, as a reload will do nothing without another The One for the next version. (In programming terms he is the highest priority task, and he will not release the Matrix program's main semaphore.)

OK, so The One is a human with enhanced genetics, enhanced implants, and a machine programmed mind, and was created by the Oracle and the Architect to carry out a specific purpose (form of control in and out of the Matrix) in each iteration of the Matrix. Now let's see how The One fits in with the entire story of the trilogy.

As is explained, the Matrix was created by the Architect, at the end of the war with the humans, as a way to control the humans and use them as a power source (I know, hard to believe...). The first Matrix was '... quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime.', while the second Matrix was redesigned '... to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature.' Basically Heaven and then Hell. In both cases, however, no conscious choice was given to the humans as to whether or not they wanted to believe in the reality of the Matrix. This caused the majority of humans to reject the Matrix and die ('... whole crops were lost.').

To solve this problem the Oracle was created, and realized correctly that the humans needed to be given a choice: 'Thus, the answer was stumbled upon by another, an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche... she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level.' So by giving humans a choice, even at an unconscious level that only 0.1% are ever aware of, they accepted the Matrix.

Unfortunately for the machines, however, a majority of the 0.1% who were aware of the choice usually chose the real world over the Matrix. 'While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked, would constitute an escalating probability of disaster.' The machines therefore also needed a way to control the 0.1% of the humans who chose the real world over the Matrix, thus Zion and The One were created.

As was explained earlier, Zion was built by the machines to ensure that the freed humans would all gather in one place, and The One was created to be their religious figure, helping to distract them from renewed war with the machines. Both forms of control.

But even with Zion and The One, the unpredictability of choice ('systemic anomoly') still forced the machines to occasionally 'reload' the Matrix. This always occurs when The One reaches the Source, which he can only do after attaining the level of power necessary for him to defeat the Merovingian, obtain the Keymaker, etc. The One program is then temporarily reinserted into the Source (machine mainframe), in preparation for the next iteration of the Matrix. In the process the machines gain the knowledge and experiences of The One, allowing them to better predict the future behavior of the humans, and thus reduce the systemic anomolies.

So that is the situation at the start of the sixth iteration of the choice-Matrix. Luckily for the humans, however, the Oracle does not want them to be enslaved in the Matrix any longer, or for the freed humans to be killed. She therefore decides to take a risk and use Neo to bring about a 'revolution'.

In M1 (The Matrix) she meets with The One, Neo, as she has done in the five previous iterations of the Matrix. Normally she simply helps guide The One to his meeting with the Architect. Except this time the Oracle gives Neo a special cookie, which he eats. The cookie isn't actually a cookie, though, it's an upgrade to Neo's program. Since the Oracle created the The One program, she can predict exactly what Neo will do in the future, specifically how he will destroy Smith (from the inside, with some copying from Neo to Smith occuring). She therefore includes in the program upgrade code that will give Smith the ability to replicate himself, and for Neo and Smith to see the future as she does.

In M2 (The Matrix Reloaded) Neo plays out his role as The One, meeting with the Architect. However, due to his love for Trinity he chooses the left door, preventing the Matrix from reloading. This was seen in advance by the Oracle, as she has the ability to predict Neo's behavior (as explained above) as well as human behavior in general (due to the nature of her program). She therefore told Trinity that she would fall in love with Neo (in M1), all the while knowing it would eventually cause Neo to choose the left door.

In M3 (The Matrix Revolutions) the Oracle's plan comes to fruition. While the machines begin their assualt on Zion (for the sixth time), Smith continues to replicate himself throughout the Matrix. Neo, on the otherhand, is stuck in the train station. Apparently, fulfilling his mission to meet with the Architect unlocks some section of his program that allows Neo to use his enhanced implants to once again become part of the machine collective (perhaps because of the Oracle's upgrade?). He is therefore able to sense and control other machines wirelessly. The first example of this is when he stops the sentinels at the end of M2. Since he is not quite ready to use his new abilities, however, his program gets stuck at the security checkpoint of the Matrix, the train station.

In the train station Neo meets with Rama Kandra, his wife, and their daughter Sati. Rama and his wife are both machines from the real world who can jack into the Matrix, like all other machines, and live human lives. Sati is a program created by these two machines out of love, which Rama explains to Neo is not out of the grasp of the machines. They are on their way back into the Matrix to leave Sati with the Oracle for safe keeping, as any program without a purpose is deleted.

After being rescued from the train station by Trinity, Morpheus, and Seraph, Neo is helped out of the Matrix using the standard jack. While aboard the Hammer he has another vision of the future, this time of the three power lines leading from the Matrix power station to 01, the machine city (he is able to see the power lines due to his newfound connection to the machine collective). He therefore takes the Logos, along with Trinity, and leaves for 01. Along the way he confronts the stowaway Bane (who has the Smith program inside of him), and is blinded by him. Although blind, Neo is still able to see other machines (orange glow), including the Smith program inside Bane, which he uses to defeat Bane. He also uses his power to control other machines to detonate the bombs fired at the Logos by the 01 defenses.

Meanwhile Smith is replicating out of control in the Matrix, and eventually confronts the Oracle after taking over Seraph and Sati. They have a brief conversation in which he calls her 'Mom', referring to the fact that she helped to create him (along with the Architect) as well as Neo (part of his program now). The Oracle then tells Smith to 'Do what you came here to do.', so he takes over her as well. The newly formed Smith then stands up and laughs hysterically, foreshadowing the events at the end of the movie.

Eventually the Logos crashes in 01, but not before Neo gets a top-down view of the orange glowing city with his newfound machine-vision (notice the fractal patterns). Unfortunately Trinity is killed in the crash, and explains to Neo that both of them have been living on borrowed time. Neo since he was ressurected by Trinity, and Trinity since she was ressurected by Neo. Both are meant to die and Trinity is simply happy for the oportunity this time to tell Neo how she feels about him. (But shame on the brothers for killing off Trinity in such a lame way. Couldn't she have at least died trying to save the ship, not just letting it crash!)

Neo then leaves the Logos and enters the machine building into which it crashed (the building is seen in the same orange glowing machine-vision). He is then confronted by the Deus Ex Machina, who knows that Neo is the only one who can stop Smith from destroying the Matrix, but still shows hatred toward Neo (due to the fact that he is mostly human). After a show of force, the Deus Ex Machina agrees to peace with the humans in exchange for Neo's promise to destroy Smith. This causes the sentinels to halt their attack on the Zion temple, the last holdout of the remaining humans (the dock and city have already been destroyed).

The machines then jack Neo into the Matrix, since he has not yet masterred the ability to do so wirelessly (this theme of Neo having to learn to use his new abilities runs throughout the trilogy). Neo then confronts Smith, who says he has seen the future, and that he (the one particular Smith) is the one that defeats Neo. The other Smiths (all of the other people in the Matrix have now been taken over by him) therefore only watch as the fight begins.

After a brutal battle Neo is near defeat, but continues to fight. When asked why he does so, Neo responds 'Because I choose to.', echoing the theme in M2 that 'Everything begins with choice.' (the only way humans achieve true freedom). But even though he delivers a stunning punch to Smith which sends him through the ground, Neo is eventually defeated. Before Smith takes him over he pauses, however, realizing that he has seen this very moment in his visions, and he already knows what he is going to say. 'Everything that has a beginning has an end...' he mutters confusedly. This causes Neo to realize that the Oracle still exists somewhere inside of Smith, and that she is partially able to control his thoughts. Taking his cue from the Oracle, Neo freely gives himself to Smith.

Thus Neo is defeated, and Smith's original purpose, to defeat The One (which he is never really expected to achieve, which leads to his bad temperment) is accomplished. Smith therefore no longer has a purpose and must be deleted. But since programs marked for deletion must return to the source, how is Smith to be deleted? Simple, the machines send the command through Neo, into Smith, using a burst of energy. This causes all of the Smith clones, and the original Smith, to be deleted, leaving the original inhabitants of the bodies he has taken over (this is a basic function of the agent programs, that they leave their hosts as they found them, with death being the only exception).

This then completes another revolution in the Matrix cycle, as The One has reached the Source and has reinserted the prime program (Neo's program, his knowledge and experiences). The Matrix is then reloaded back to it's initial state, the late 20th century.

The Oracle then meets with Sati, Seraph, and the Architect in a park outside the city as the sun rises over it. The Architect tells her that she was playing a 'very risky game', and she asks him if he will honor the promise of peace. He says that he will, since he is not human (meaning humans do not keep their promises, an insult). This means that those people who unconsciously become aware of the Matrix and choose to leave will be freed, and those living in Zion will not be killed. The war between man and machine is over, or at least suspended.

Looking upon the sunrise the Oracle asks Sati if that was her doing, and the girl responds that she did it for Neo (made the sun rise). Apparently Neo's experience with love, which was uploaded from him to the Source, caused the machines to show pity on Sati and give her a purpose instead of deleting her. She is now in control of the sun. Sati also asks the Oracle if they will ever see Neo again, and the Oracle replies that they might, indicating that the The One program will be used again in the future, as it had been for the previous six iterations of the Matrix. M3 therefore ends where M1 began, except that now the humans who become aware of the Matrix will be freed (a decent compromise if you ask me).

Whew, done! Hopefully this helped those of you who were confused like me after seeing M3 for the first time. I know that I am not 100% correct in what I've said here (perhaps only 50%), but it's a nice starting point. Maybe others can build on it to make it even more correct and useful. Thanks for reading!

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i think the movie accomploished everything it was supposed to:

-it finished the story

-despite bad reviews, you all still went and saw it

-the DVD sales will absolutely kill, beacuse people want to answer their questions

-if the reloaded and revolutions had been one movie not as many questions would be present

-if you look deep enough into almost any movie you could find religious symbolism

Why not just take it for what it was a kick movie series?

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i thought it was truely going to be revolutionary (no pun intended) after the first one but it just wasnt. but i guess it was ok. i dont really see the point of going back to square 1 though

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sorry, i wasnt in much of a mood to read that whole long thing, but i read the first couple of paragraphs, and Neo is NOT a machine. you say there was hints throughout all the movies, i think that was to establish that Neo is comparable to a machine and lead up the fact that he is Smith's opposite. i think it is pretty clear that he is human. Considering the orange glow at the end, it could be smith... seeing as how he is a machine and he assimilated into neo.

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Yeah, definately alot of comparisions to Jesus and Neo.

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dude, the machine-god plugged neo in. then, smith stuck his hand in neo and tried to convert neo. as smith was converting, the machine-god went through neo and into the smith program and destroyed him from the inside out.

And the machines need the humans (zion) because it was because of zion (raising neo in the real world) that neo could come and save all the machines from smith.

the humans can leave if they choose to and can go anywhere the machines arent. ie. the mountains and plains SURROUNDING the machine city. when he goes there u notice that the entire world is not coverd by machine. I might be wrong about that last one.

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i personally think you are wrong about a lot of it. oh well

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look at it as one movie, look at the little things and the details... like i swear when the machines are carrying neo away the light around him looks like a menora... and the thing about people being able to leave freely: they still have to be able to handle it themselves and choose to leave. most dont know they can and most arent able. when neo was first removed they were hunted while trying to extract him, all this changes is that all neo had to do was take the blue pill or whichever and hes out... but he has to choose the pill first, most in the matrix wouldnt. and yeah, that was a damn good summary by jameson. oh yeah, and all the use of rage against the machine... i would think it has something to do with the corporate machine.

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oh yeah, one problem: i was under the impression the people lived underground because the rest of the world had been made uninhabitable... how neo and trinity didnt die from poisoning or cold or whatever is beyond me

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I was really disappointed by the movie. The ending makes more sense now after reading the stuff here ( I only saw it last night).

It just never felt like I was watching 'The Matrix'. There were some familiar characters, sets, etc, but the style had gone.

Yes, the story needed to progress, but everything above and beyond the philosophical undertones of the other movies that made them so sick was missing. The soundtrack was far more 'scored' and orchestral than the others, the slick stylistic elements - such as the hand-to-hand fighting/ bullet-time etc were lacking. The action sequences in the other movies were mind blowing because they used stuntmen for so much of it. CG was just used to complement it.

In revolutions there was WAY to much CGI. Its impressive and all, but it is computer generated, and therefore pretty lifeless and void of emotion.

I didn't feel any emotional connection with this movie. Some moments were even corny. I winced at a couple of lines of dialogue - what happened? Where they in a rush to finish it? Was a big budget 2 hour long video game the easy way out?

The resolution of the Trinity/Neo relationship sucked. It was a major part of esp M2 and then they ... I don't know. I didn't like it. It felt like a cop out.

Yeah - I was looking forward to this a lot, its just a bit of an anti climax. Too much CGI. No emotion. The Matrix is still sick though.

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I liked the 3rd better than the 2nd

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i see what ur saying tori. i felt the same way about the second one. after watching both of them, i feel like the first one was an amazing movie while the other two were just really good movies. they just didnt feel the same. i still love the whole trilogy, tho.

 
well i liked the third one, much better than the second but not as good as the first, but the end fight for zion and the battle between agent smith and neo kicked ass

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that movie focking sucked. it was a total let down and whoever says that they understood the ending is a liar. Everyone should have died. At least that would be 'final'.

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