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This. Bindings have come a long way. That being said binding company's do put out lists of bindings that aren't good to ski on every year just for your information. And Marker actually dominates the binding game these days so this thread is pretty pointless
 
I don't really see the hype with Squires, I mean they're $10 cheaper than an Axial 2 or an STH, just less durable/more plastic. I could see the appeal if it was a $130 binding, but it's hardly competitively priced.
 
alot of ski shops in canada are pretty much giving them to you when you buy a pair of skis, thats how i got mine
 
not really. at least not if you know anything about the binding market and how to not spend all your money like an asshat
 
squires are absolute shit. markers in general are not so great. they use far more plastic then the avg manufacturer
 
This. The point of this thread is not valid for current Marker Binders.

That said, I am not as fan of Markers. I do not ride on them and don't necessarily recommend them to anybody if they ask me. They seem like fine binders but I will stick to the PX12s and FKS' that I have.
 
never had any problems with my griffons. now my marker 11's on the other hand... fuck them. so bad.
 
What one should really think about is that based upon this post, and the number of posts you have total. There is at least a 25% chance your are a fucking retard.

 
Marker is sooo much hype, it's like Nike shoes or something, if you get me...

especially since they hooked up TWall (I don't know why accepted that sponsorship..)

ofc more plastic means more lightweight, but bitch please, your doing a sport so that bit of more muscles you need or whatever... I'd rather have full metal bindings or something the like that don't always break and stuff, haha...
 
To bring this all into perspective, I am a certified shop technician by marker, rossi, salomon, tyrolia, nordica, head, and atomic. if you didnt know, every year we get an extensive list of bindings that we are allowed to work on known as the "indemnified list". this list is our basis for every binding we work on. as stated before, that is a very very old binding and to my knowledge, has not been included in the indemnified list for AT LEAST 6 years. this is almost a 20 yr old binding and we're surprised when bindings make it past the 10 yr mark on the list.

like everyone has already said, marker has had a long tradition of fighting uphill battles when it comes to their bindings. and they still have a long way to go. if you want a real binding, go ride some rossi/look fks or pivots. get something with some metal components. riding a 20 yr old binding is like riding a pair of full tilts, it just doesnt work
 
seems very controverse to me. how does riding full tilts not works?! those are the most comfortable boots I have ever worn?!

I can't bring the argument of you being jealous or anything since you work in a ski shop and should be able to get whatever gear you like, but please tell me, what is it then?
 
#2 hater right here. Nothing against them....more all the people who blindly buy them. I hope your feet hurt assholes
 
youre a smart man, Im far from jealous lol!

they plain and simple dont work for the progression of skiing. our sport have come SO far, especially in the past 5 years. so why, after all the new tech that has gone into our product, would i resort to buying a pair of boots, mind you boots being the absolute most important piece of equipment, that come from molds older than me? would you go buy the latest skis and bindings and rock a pair of reichle flex ons? no! but thats exactly what those boots are! they are a fad. if you want a pair of boots that will compliment the new generation of skiing, go check out nordica park and pipe boots. they will change your skiing for the better. and like you said, i work at a shop, i get great deals which has allowed me to try so many different companies like tecnica, salomon, lange, nordica, and yes full tilt. nordica is leading the progression. get on board!
 
let turn this into a Nordica Rules Thread.

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I dont, maybe year 5 or 6 with em now
 
THIS GUY KNOWS! +10 k for this guy! this is now the official rossi bindings and nordica boots kick ass thread
 
Are you kidding me right now? Yes, the 3-piece design that FT uses has been used for decades, but that doesn't matter at all. You can put all of the technology you want into the shell of a boot, but that doesn't mean it will be better in the slightest than a simpler design. The mold that FT uses has been the most trusted in the industry for longer than most kids on this site have been alive, so why change it? The flex is natural/interchangeable, and is more consistent with the bend of your ankle than anything. It is also leagues lighter than any Nordica/Dalbello boot of its class. Also, the Intuition liner is as up-to-date as any liner, and it's definitely one of the best performing, and the option to heat mold it is definitely attractive.

I bought Full tilts because they fit my foot perfectly, were comfortable as fuck, and felt as light as a skate shoe.

Don't just disregard a boot because of its design's age. This isn't a cell phone, it's a ski boot.
 
And no, I'm not a fanboy on FT's dick because Tammy Whamsticks rides them, it just pisses me off when people disregard them because of the design's age.
 
MAN! how many youtube product videos did you watch to regurgitate all that info? you definitely sold into the hype just as much as any other kid! i dont care about all this "oh they're light" bs. that doesnt matter one bit. thats like saying, oh i bought this kia over this vw because its lighter. NO! you buy a vw because they're weightiness means its a beast!

and guess what, NEWS FLASH! you can heat mold nordy boots too! OMFG! crazy, right? the nordica shell design is the best design for the skis we ski on today, hands down. all the companies still worried about how much forward flex a boot has is COMPLETELY missing the point! Nordica, KING OF BOOTS!

you dont ski by weighting and unweighting your skis do you? no, and thats why your full shits are inferior.
 
Hahahaha this is so true. So true. When you're a little guy you don't need a burly ass metal binding.

My little brother bought full tilts... (I ride Tecnica Diablo Magnesiums)... and they were just no match for the fit of the Tecnica. But where I noticed the difference was the drive and transfer of power/energy as I moved across the mountain. The Tecnica's just responded aggressively while the Full Tilts were just kinda meh.
 
Well I bought mine for 2 reasons:

1: I got a pretty good offer on them

2: I had to chose between Salomon SPKs and Full Tilt Dropkicks, only heard of shinbangs from SPKs

(3. I was tired of always wearing black boots, but it could have been any coloured boot with a good price)

Now what I don't get: My feet never hurt, my feet never freeze, my shins/toes/heels never hurt, I get in and out fast as can be and I got a great riding feeling.

Now what superior techniques do all those other so-progressed boots have? What makes them better?

KISS: Keep it stupid, simple. Sometimes less is more, imo.

I just don't understand your blind hatred simply because it's an old concept, old doesn't meen bad, does it?

Seriousely, the only negative point is that the cables sometimes are a bit difficult to snap in, but that's less annoying than destroying your foot whilst trying to get into a boot.

Summed up: Dafuq is wrong with your opinion? xD You're just as hyped as all toddywallnutts fans, just the other way round haha...
 
I'll tell you what my boss tells all you park rats when discussing product and blah blah blah... you know, sometimes its not the plane, ITS THE PILOT!

 
Ok buddy, I'll try to keep it dumb for your squirrel-sized brain...

It starts with the shell, nordica builds up the side walls of the shell to be rigid. the focus of the flex is primarily in the sidewalls. when carving a turn, which reminds me, you can carve a turn right? Anyways, when carving a turn, we are simply adjusting our weight laterally, meaning side to side, by rolling the ankle left to right etc. by having a shell with a rigid and stiffer sidewall, you are getting a MUCH better response out of your boots to compliment the new style of skiing.

secondly, progressive flex. this is probably one of the more important parts. with nordica, the more you flex the boots forward, the more stiff they become. no over-flexing the boot. it allows you to ride aggressive without crushing your boots like a pancake.

third, now we are going to start talking about degrees and angles so i hope you can understand this. with any three buckle boot, its not about how many buckles are on the boots, but where those buckles are placed! by placing the middle buckle at a 45 degree angle, you are getting the maximum amount of heel retention in the heel pocket.

fourth, handmade liners, need i say more?

fifth, shock eraser base boards! you get the idea...

sixth, dual density soles, no wearing those babies down after a season!

seventh, just as easy to get in and out of!

and lastly, a much more scientific approach to the flex, rebound, and progression of ski boots. boots flex are measured in newton meters! i know big stuff here. in lamens terms, its a much more exact and definitive measure of the flex of the boot rather than just slapping a "120" or "100" on the boot, which means absolutely nothing, scientifically.

In conclusion, there is nothing you can say about a full tilt that will combat with the breadth of knowledge i just fed to you. Bus is here little timmy, time to go home.
 
oh, then go grab some flex ons and 204 straights and sleigh the park... i'd love to see it. you're just sounding dumb now
 
That analogy would work if I was talking about an obviously inferior product. I could say go get a Sector 9 pintail longboard (204 straights) with Caliber trucks (Flexons) and bomb Maryhill. The Sector 9 represents your "204 straights", a product clearly not designed for the use at hand, and the Calibers representing a perfectly appropriate product. Further, Caliber recently came out with Caliber Precision Trucks. This truck is an improved version of the Calibers with minor performance-enhancing tweaks. Those could represent Full Tilt Boots. Although there are minor tweaks, it is the same basic design and it works great.

Your analogy sucks because I would gladly "sleigh" the park on Flexons.
 
@PNSkier I don't want to insult you, but I'm sort of just before getting the general qualification for university entrance (here called Matura) and I chose natural sciences (not shure if correct; I'm usually speaking German so excuse some English errors xD), so I know very well about Newtonmeter and degrees and stuff (but you can scare me to death with maths, talking of degrees-.-), so don't try to sound like any more intellectual with just using some scientific terms lol. Them just soundz good, but them nah mean ya more clevah than othha...

And yes I can carve turn hahahaha, how the heck would I like to go skiing if all I could do was going straight forward to the park and there going straight everywhere too hahaha...

All these things sound very cool, but I guess you pay a pretty damn good salted price for them, too, isn't it?

I like that anti-proportional-like flex, I've got to admit it sounds clever... nevertheless I've got the boots I have, they will have to last until they blast... which doesn't seem to be very soon, judging on how well they served me until now (even though they don't have all those ultrasuperduperspecialnordicablingbling xD)

 
That doesn't mean sweet fuck all if they don't fit your foot.

Some people have skinny, low volume feet, and fit into a skinny, low volume boot like a FT.

Or a Doberman.

 
Got mine for about 200 Euros, they usually cost like 500 Euros in Europe, don't know what your standards are over there haha... but I think I got a pretty good deal for a brand new boot ^_^
 
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