Marker Kingpin 13 vs. Shift

Dfriezzy

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Been digging for the last couple days.

Does anyone have a link to a conclusive comparison between these two?

Opinions?
 
The biggest difference is the shift has elastics travel in the toe. I have skied both and the shift is literally an alpine binding that you can tour on if you want. The kingpin does not even come close to the shift in terms of elastic travel, so depending on what you plan to use the binding for that can be. difference maker. Plenty of people I work with ski the kingpin in bounds everyday, but these people are also like 5'2 and barley break 100 lbs.If you Ron the bigger end and plan to ski the binding in bounds more than out of bounds go with the shift. if your going to be touring more go with the king pin. If your never going to ski this ski inbounds and are going to be going on longer tours look at the marker alpinist, its the best skiing of the low weight tech bindings that I have been on and I love it.
 
[video]https://vimeo.com/301716163[/video]Pretty sure Sammy C skied kingpins for this whole video.

I ski the shifts because it feels good to be in an alpine toe in and out of bounds. I've taken them on some long tours up some volcanoes and no complaints from me, the single shift riser hasn't bothered me yet. There's a few videos of guys like durtschi blowing them up so it's definitely possible. Also, shifts have a bit more fiddle factor with the AFD worm screw thing but once you figure it out it's good to go.

They're both great options and probably it comes down to how you feel about pins, binding simplicity, and what your goal is. Honestly like Jaquin said if this is a touring only ski you might consider a different pin binding than either of these two, depending on goals/how you ski out of bounds.
 
14050551:whitenab said:
[video]https://vimeo.com/301716163[/video]Pretty sure Sammy C skied kingpins for this whole video.

I ski the shifts because it feels good to be in an alpine toe in and out of bounds. I've taken them on some long tours up some volcanoes and no complaints from me, the single shift riser hasn't bothered me yet. There's a few videos of guys like durtschi blowing them up so it's definitely possible. Also, shifts have a bit more fiddle factor with the AFD worm screw thing but once you figure it out it's good to go.

They're both great options and probably it comes down to how you feel about pins, binding simplicity, and what your goal is. Honestly like Jaquin said if this is a touring only ski you might consider a different pin binding than either of these two, depending on goals/how you ski out of bounds.

Dayum forgot about that Sammy C fire show...

Solid points. Definitely some more research ahead.
 
Having skied on both I can agree on the Shift having more elasticity and the Kingpin being more rigid (personally use the Kingpin). A big factor to consider if you want to use the Shift for longer back country days or multi-day trips is that you have to play around with a few more features when you are transitioning from walk mode to ski mode. The Kingpin is nice for both long and short trips because it is a fairly simple system. When I use my Kingpin set up in resort I don't notice too much of a difference compared to my Pivots in relation to how secure I feel in them and how hard I can push the ski and binding. When I used the Shift in resort it felt like a normal alpine binding. In the end it comes down to what you want out of the binding and personal preference but I hope this helped form your decision.
 
14050871:Nosam said:
Having skied on both I can agree on the Shift having more elasticity and the Kingpin being more rigid (personally use the Kingpin). A big factor to consider if you want to use the Shift for longer back country days or multi-day trips is that you have to play around with a few more features when you are transitioning from walk mode to ski mode. The Kingpin is nice for both long and short trips because it is a fairly simple system. When I use my Kingpin set up in resort I don't notice too much of a difference compared to my Pivots in relation to how secure I feel in them and how hard I can push the ski and binding. When I used the Shift in resort it felt like a normal alpine binding. In the end it comes down to what you want out of the binding and personal preference but I hope this helped form your decision.

Perfect! Thanks for the input.
 
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