Marker Griffons vs Jesters

Looking to buy either griffons or jesters. Are jesters better in terms of durability or is it better to not waste my money because I don’t need to set my DIN at 16 anyway.

**This thread was edited on Jun 19th 2023 at 4:31:40pm
 
Yo. I still dont understand the hate on griffons/jesters. They are great bindings. I have used both griffons and jesters and here is my personal recommendation. If you are one of... light (
 
14541782:Zurg said:
Yo. I still dont understand the hate on griffons/jesters. They are great bindings. I have used both griffons and jesters and here is my personal recommendation. If you are one of... light (

14541785:Zurg said:
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**This post was edited on Jun 19th 2023 at 6:23:53pm

Still can't use the "less than, more than" arrow symbols on this forum. Not sure why that is a persistent bug but I don't know anything about code.
 
14541789:Non_State_Actor said:
Still can't use the "less than, more than" arrow symbols on this forum. Not sure why that is a persistent bug but I don't know anything about code.

Haha that makes sense. I was so confused.

Yo. I still dont understand the hate on griffons/jesters. They are great bindings. I have used both griffons and jesters and here is my personal recommendation. If you are one of... light (under 120lbs), less aggressive, plan to replace your bindings ever other season. Go with jesters if you weigh more, are more aggressive, plan to use the same bindings for multiple seasons in a row.

Jesters are great. I have had 0 issues with the 4 pairs over the lifespan that I have had them. I still regularly use a pair from 12/13 (Yes I take them to a shop to be tested every season).

The only problem that I have ever had with griffons was snapping a heel piece. The part where the binding connects to the track. This pair of griffons were used for 3-4 seasons in a row so the binding wasn't really to blame. That's why I jumped up to the jesters. For the extra burly factor with metal components.
 
Jesters are more durable than Griffons because they have to be in order to have a higher DIN range. However, Griffons are plenty durable for their DIN range.

To help you decide on what you actually need, your DIN should be somewhere in the middle of your bindings range. If too close to the minimum it suggests you've over purchased and if you're too close to the maximum it suggests you've under purchased.
 
14541782:Zurg said:
Yo. I still dont understand the hate on griffons/jesters. They are great bindings. I have used both griffons and jesters and here is my personal recommendation. If you are one of... light (

I remember for a few years back in the day....maybe 2010 or 2012ish, they seemingly had a couple of bad batches for durability. In the hayday of the STH and FKS/pivot they quickly gained the rep of not being durable and people largely toted the latter two as being the end all be all. I think that reputation still follows them around to this day with some of the older people on NS, myself included.

for the most part these days though they are just the same price as debatably better bindings. Griffs are 200ish, jesters at 300ish, and jester pros are 350 I think. You can get attacks for 200, pivot 12s for 300, pivot 15s for 350-400, sth 2 13s for 180 and 16s for 350. This is just quick googling so you can definitely get all of these cheaper with sales etc. Theyre all around the same price range and are debatably more proven for freeride/park.

if you gave most people on here the option between griffons, sth 13s and attacks at the same price, it would be STH then Attack then griffons (honestly the attacks and sth could be switched, I just like sth feel more). Between jesters, pivot 15s and sth 16s its the same story. Jesters will probably be the last choice of most people on NS. Jester pros, well anyone that needs that big of a din range is going to go with an all metal binding most likely. So pivot 18s
 
Ive been a griffon man my whole ski career, never got the hate. I have a pair going on season 5 or 6 now I think
 
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