Mammoth

snakerton

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So I'm thinking about planning a ski trip to Mammoth this winter. It needs to be around Christmas because the ass holes at the school district took away my February break. I'm looking for good terrain and good snow. I don't ski much park. If the snow sucks I might fuck around in the kiddy park. Anyway I have a few questions...

How is it early season (December)?

What is the snow like?

How often and how much does it snow?

How are the crowds?

Any reason not to go there?

And anything you got to say about it

Thanks
 
BC in which regard? mammoth is surrounded by some pretty epic boot pack and ski touring accessible terrain- I guess the question i'm trying to ask is what's your ability/experience level in terms of touring, avvy training, etc? are you looking for lines or somewhere to build a kicker?
 
I'm an expert skier but intermediate in bc knowledge. I have all the gear (beacon, shovel, probe ect) and I have skins and touring bindings. Im looking for lines
 
A lot of these questions really vary from year to year- on average though, by December we usually have a good base, so the whole hill will be open, and in an average year you'd get maybe 3-4 powder days (like what... 4-8in?) over the winter break period. Do not expect bluebird conditions to last- on a good powder day during winter break, the hill is usually tracked out by say... 1230 or so. christmas time is the DEVIL in terms of crowds. it will be extremely crowded, more so this year due to the fact that the neighboring mtn which took away some people (June) is closed.

the biggest reason i can argue not to come here is the price of lodging and tickets... it does get pretty steep pretty fast. If I didn't have a season pass, mammoth would not be where I would choose to ride simply because I could not afford it. besides that, the terrain is epic, the parks are sick, and while there are metric shittons of people on the hill during that time period, it's big enough that there's always somewhere to go without people.

hope that helps
 
There are some fun mellow lines in the sherwins and on the pimple that are easy to get to- maybe 2 hour treks up for some hero snow (depending on the conditions). the big issue with the sherwins is that the easiest entrance/exit is located inside of a gated community (snowcreek golf course) that tends to tow cars if you park em conspicuously. if the shuttle is running to the twin lakes/ the xcountry ski area, then there's some fun lines off the backside of the sherwins you can get to as well with a slightly easier exit strategy
 
There are some fun mellow lines in the sherwins and on the pimple that are easy to get to- maybe 2 hour treks up for some hero snow (depending on the conditions). the big issue with the sherwins is that the easiest entrance/exit is located inside of a gated community (snowcreek golf course) that tends to tow cars if you park em conspicuously. if the shuttle is running to the twin lakes/ the xcountry ski area, then there's some fun lines off the backside of the sherwins you can get to as well with a slightly easier exit strategy
 
How is it early season (December)?

It really depends, but it is usually good. Last year was an absurd aberration, so don't expect that again. The mountain should be mostly covered by then, and even if you don't get fresh snow you should be able to get classic Mammoth windbuff in the noids, climax, hangers, MJB's, drop/wipe, and the avy chutes. Actually, call 'maybe' on hangers and MJB's, and throw the head chutes in there as well. Philippe's probably won't be open yet, and the top of the world will probably not be doable, but you never know.

Here is the good thing: The Mammoth wind machine tends to keep things pretty smooth, so you can often have great windbuff in the steeps even if it has not snowed in a couple of weeks. Just watch the wind patterns, and try to figure out where it is depositing the snow. Getting to ski the Paranoids in nice windbuff is pretty classic, and you have a very good shot at getting that type of skiing.

Could it suck? Yes, but probably not. It's too bad you can't come in February, as the base will be better, but it should be good in December.

What is the snow like?

It is not as light as Utah pow, but it is still nice. It is lighter than Tahoe snow, and the coastal stuff sticks to the steep rocky areas pretty well. It does get some pretty light stuff sometimes too. My favorite storms are the ones that start out wet and cool gradually.

How often and how much does it snow?

Often and much. Mammoth gets something like 400 inches a year, and it is prone to massive storms from time to time. 5 foot dumps are not all that uncommon, and I've seen much bigger ones come through. The storms will close the upper mountain, so it's not a place like Snowbird where the gondola sometimes runs in storms. The lower mountain is great on storm days though.

How are the crowds?

It will be crowded when you are there. Having said that, Mammoth is very good at spreading crowds. It never have too big of an issue there, even when it is packed. The longest lines I wait in are maybe 10 minutes. They can be longer, but that is pretty rare.

Any reason not to go there?

As alluded too by other posters, the price. If I did not have a season pass it would be REALLY expensive. I also don't know how you are getting there. Will you fly in directly? Mammoth does not get much non-socal traffic because it is hard to get to from anywhere else. Socal still makes the mountain crowded at times, but not many people from the east choose it over Vail. They should, as it blows Vail's doors off in terms of terrain, but I'm glad they don't. I should probably not be talking it up.

Whenever you plan a trip in advance, you are always taking a chance. I am a yuppie, not a local, and I ski Mammoth 2-3 weekends a month and Mt. Baldy when I don't make the 5.5 hour drive. Because I have to get a ski lease every year, so I have a place to stay all season, my ski budget does not allow for many trips. I am always scared when I book a trip, as I could go to Utah, have it suck, and have Mammoth be great while I'm gone. If you live in the east, you don't have to worry too much, but if you live somewhere cool, like Seattle, you might miss out. That's just a risk you take with every trip though.

I surf too, and part of the reason I like Costa Rica is that it is very consistent. It always has waves, so I know that even if socal is going off I will still score in CR. Mammoth is a bit like that, if you go when there is a base, which there should be when you are going, you should get good windbuff turns no matter when the last snow was. It is a very good risk, IMO.
 
I guess if you don't have tickets why are you set on mammoth?

My only problem with mammoth during that time are the crowds. It's a very expensive mountain (tickets wise) and closest one to So so cal and thus you'll have all the gapes and newbs around crowding the lines.

 
If you want to get out and ski bc? My favorite place to ski out of bounds and ski lines is Jackson. Where are you coming from and how are you planning on getting to the destination?

Tahoe is also VERY key during Christmas (depends on the snow year).
 
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