Majesty Skis (Majeshitty)

FrenchSilkPai

FrenchSilkPai

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Just want to let everyone know.

I took a risk in buying these skis. They seemed to be high quality, through reviews and self research, I purchased them.

after less than 30 days on them in the park (and I don’t go huge on rails) the bottoms are starting to delaminate.

I was told by the company that damages caused by park skiing voids warranty, and the delaminating is most likely from rails, despite the edge being fine.

just want to put out a PSA for anyone considering on buying these skis.... don’t. Save your money and invest in better skis.

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Shove some J.B. Weld in that crack and clamp the sidewall for a few days. They should hold up. That really blows tho.
 
For sure will turboload with epoxy and get the most life out of them. Just trying to inform the uninformed.

14080670:snowmosexual said:
Shove some J.B. Weld in that crack and clamp the sidewall for a few days. They should hold up. That really blows tho.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong anybody, but I believe the only company in recent history to offer warranty which covered rail hits were HG Skis, and what happened? They went out of business.

Not that their warranty policy was the sole cause of that, but I can imagine there were a fair few claims that they were compelled to cover, where 9/10 manufacturers would tell you to shove it, which couldn't have been good for their profit margins. There skis were crazy expensive to be fair though.
 
14080679:Poindexter. said:
Thirty days of hitting a material harder than anything in your ski will do that
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Disagree. I've put 10x as many days on skis while frequently hitting rails and have not had them delaminate like that. Skis should absolutely last better.

Doesn't mean the brand sucks though. Even the best brands have product failures like this.
 
Your right. It could be a claims nightmare. But companies such as ON3P or J-skis will still realize when a ski is under performing. I’ve had these skis for less than a year. Skiied on them less than 30 times and the edges are fine, but the base is starting to delam? That doesn’t seem right. Out of a 650 ski, you’d expect it to last at least a season or half a season depending on your frequency and skiing style.

14080693:TheMailMan said:
Please correct me if I'm wrong anybody, but I believe the only company in recent history to offer warranty which covered rail hits were HG Skis, and what happened? They went out of business.

Not that their warranty policy was the sole cause of that, but I can imagine there were a fair few claims that they were compelled to cover, where 9/10 manufacturers would tell you to shove it, which couldn't have been good for their profit margins. There skis were crazy expensive to be fair though.
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I agree with you man. I had a pair of moment skis last 4 years..

it doesn’t. It could be a defect, but it’s all about how they handle these types of issues. The fact that they instantly void anything that touches the park is a red flag.

they give you the option to send you skis in, but they reserve the right to send them back and not fulfill the claim. And at that point, you’ve already taken your bindings off and are SOL

14080699:VinnieF said:
Disagree. I've put 10x as many days on skis while frequently hitting rails and have not had them delaminate like that. Skis should absolutely last better.

Doesn't mean the brand sucks though. Even the best brands have product failures like this.
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14080699:VinnieF said:
Doesn't mean the brand sucks though. Even the best brands have product failures like this.
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The brand is at fault for not following up with warranty. I understand it's hard to do well financially as a boutique small ski company, but ON3P would fix peoples skis/replace them even in their early years. Although they're bigger, I've seen people get two pairs of skis on warranty from Faction. In reality ski materials cost less than $200. The machine hours are the most expensive part. It would be much more useful to have a good reputation with your customer base than to save $300. If ON3P skimped on customer service, none of us would know who they are. (Edit: Typo)

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You shouldn’t have expected them to be covered under warranty. Most companies won’t warranty them if you’re a park skier.

That being said, those skis are way too fried for just 30 days of park skiing. They sound like exceptionally shitty skis
 
I agree, depends on the company though. I know on3p and jskis understand that stuff happens and they stand up for their quality.

14080730:DIRTYBUBBLE said:
You shouldn’t have expected them to be covered under warranty. Most companies won’t warranty them if you’re a park skier.

That being said, those skis are way too fried for just 30 days of park skiing. They sound like exceptionally shitty skis
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Another kid gets rail damage and then slanders the company, just another Monday on NS.

Yes, ideally skis should last longer, but any time you hit a rail on any ski you’re rolling the dice. You got unlucky for sure, but this doesn’t look like a warranty situation and this company doesn’t have a reputation for fragile products.
 
You’re right. I’ll just not hit rails then with skis that are built for the park. I don’t really think they do have a reputation in general.

i would say edge damage would be rail damage. Not delamination.

please, tell me about your experience with Majesty skis?

14080782:Sharko said:
Another kid gets rail damage and then slanders the company, just another Monday on NS.

Yes, ideally skis should last longer, but any time you hit a rail on any ski you’re rolling the dice. You got unlucky for sure, but this doesn’t look like a warranty situation and this company doesn’t have a reputation for fragile products.
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14080680:FrenchSilkPai said:
Hasn’t seemed to be the case with armadas, moments, k2s and Lines.
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All your evidence is anecdotal case reports. Until someone does a randomized controlled trial, consider risk of delamination a random occurrence if hitting rails. All rails are different. Different skier weights. Different skis. Different lengths. Different hits on rails. Different angles. Different temperatures. Different humidity. Different friction. Different forces in every which way. I could go on all day. Nothing is the same so one simply cannot compare brands as people continually try to do. Blanket statements do nothing. Ever think that the reason you don't hear about some company covering some crappy non-warranty issue is because the skis are holding up to continuous abuse and never actually reached this point???

Everyone complains about the skis that break, but by far there are more skis that get tossed literally off a mountain and are fine. You'll never hear that PR though.

OP not sure why you're complaining about a company not covering a clear non-warranty issue. Sure you have examples of all brands going out of their way and covering some folks' non-warranty park issues such as ditches and bitches but I'm sure plenty of those same brands also deny plenty of these false warranties. Just because someone posts a thread that x company covered their park delam, doesn't mean they actually told the company that they skied park. Ever think of that? Gotta be smart with warranties man even if it's shady (sorry indie brands); let them decide how the damage occurred if you aren't prepared to accept the fact of a denial.

Idk who this ski company is, but what if their margins are so thin that they can't afford to lose a few hundred bucks?

All I'm saying in this giant response is think before you speak. There's plenty of unknown reasons. Quit drawing conclusions from your one experience.

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14080788:FrenchSilkPai said:
You’re right. I’ll just not hit rails then with skis that are built for the park. I don’t really think they do have a reputation in general.

i would say edge damage would be rail damage. Not delamination.

please, tell me about your experience with Majesty skis?
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No one said not to hit rails, just to understand that if you do you are taking a risk, and everyone knows that it will void the warranty. You took the risk, you got unlucky.

i agree that edge damage is more common from hitting rails, but you can separate layers and damage a core with impact too, remember that guy who snapped his on3ps in a ditch a couple years ago?

never been on them, but they got some attention a while back on NS when they introduced the Dirty Bear. They come from Poland so they were reasonably priced but not easy to get. there were a number of NSers who posted about their experience and they overwhelmingly praised the durability.
 
The point of forums is to post personal experiences. So I applaud you for posting an essay and demoting the epitome of public forums

14080793:BlumpkinPumpkin said:
All your evidence is anecdotal case reports. Until someone does a randomized controlled trial, consider risk of delamination a random occurrence if hitting rails. All rails are different. Different skier weights. Different skis. Different lengths. Different hits on rails. Different angles. Different temperatures. Different humidity. Different friction. Different forces in every which way. I could go on all day. Nothing is the same so one simply cannot compare brands as people continually try to do. Blanket statements do nothing. Ever think that the reason you don't hear about some company covering some crappy non-warranty issue is because the skis are holding up to continuous abuse and never actually reached this point???

Everyone complains about the skis that break, but by far there are more skis that get tossed literally off a mountain and are fine. You'll never hear that PR though.

OP not sure why you're complaining about a company not covering a clear non-warranty issue. Sure you have examples of all brands going out of their way and covering some folks' non-warranty park issues such as ditches and bitches but I'm sure plenty of those same brands also deny plenty of these false warranties. Just because someone posts a thread that x company covered their park delam, doesn't mean they actually told the company that they skied park. Ever think of that? Gotta be smart with warranties man even if it's shady (sorry indie brands); let them decide how the damage occurred if you aren't prepared to accept the fact of a denial.

Idk who this ski company is, but what if their margins are so thin that they can't afford to lose a few hundred bucks?

All I'm saying in this giant response is think before you speak. There's plenty of unknown reasons. Quit drawing conclusions from your one experience.

**This post was edited on Nov 25th 2019 at 7:57:16pm
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14080804:FrenchSilkPai said:
The point of forums is to post personal experiences. So I applaud you for posting an essay and demoting the epitome of public forums
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Actually your point was to publicly shame a brand because they wouldn't warranty your non-warranty issue. I'm simply pointing that out and providing my "opinion" on why you're wrong on so many levels. Carry on
 
14080804:FrenchSilkPai said:
The point of forums is to post personal experiences. So I applaud you for posting an essay and demoting the epitome of public forums
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I don’t think “demote” or “epitome” mean what you think they do
 
14080804:FrenchSilkPai said:
The point of forums is to post personal experiences. So I applaud you for posting an essay and demoting the epitome of public forums
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Ski Gabber isn’t meant for kids (like you) to come on and tarnish ski company names when you’ve put a months worth of time into smashing your skis into objects that are harder than your skis. Shit happens and when you’re skiing park you should realize that beating up your gear will cause damage to them. Sometimes skis last years, sometimes they break in a day. Shit happens.
 
if I cared enuffs

id make ya the most interesting dose xx bro meme

I don't often abuse my skis with metal rails

but when I do I wouldn't expect the shitty pollock skis

to withstand that abuse
 
14080782:Sharko said:
Another kid gets rail damage and then slanders the company, just another Monday on NS.

Yes, ideally skis should last longer, but any time you hit a rail on any ski you’re rolling the dice. You got unlucky for sure, but this doesn’t look like a warranty situation and this company doesn’t have a reputation for fragile products.
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Usually I'd agree with this but base delam is kinda weird. Much more common for there to be top sheet delam or busted edges before base delam. Totally understand the company voiding the warranty but this may be a sign of a larger issue with the manufacturing processes as a whole, although this is an isolated incident.

Definitely something to have a discussion with the company with before smearing them. If they're dicks and tell you to shove it, then a proper smear is in order.

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definitely a weird issue, id be interested to see if anyone else has had this issue with these skis. if not, id bet its a manufacturing defect or something out of the ordinary.

thread is aggressive but i think its valid to see if there is consensus regarding this type of delam. doesn't really look like a common problem though

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Yep, the delam is very interesting and isn’t one that should “just happen” from rail skiing. I reached out to the rep for my area along with the company themselves.

945900.pngThis was the response I got. The rep also told me that there historically hasn’t been issues with the vandals

14080873:Lonely said:
Usually I'd agree with this but base delam is kinda weird. Much more common for there to be top sheet delam or busted edges before base delam. Totally understand the company voiding the warranty but this may be a sign of a larger issue with the manufacturing processes as a whole, although this is an isolated incident.

Definitely something to have a discussion with the company with before smearing them. If they're dicks and tell you to shove it, then a proper smear is in order.

**This post was edited on Nov 25th 2019 at 10:03:19pm
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See this is where you messed up, instead of emailing the company privately, you need to first start a massive clickbait thread on NS calling them out. Make sure to say you didnt hit a single park feature but instead was skiing on groomers and happened to bump over a tiny ditch. Complain about how bad the ski company is and demand that youi are entitled to 3 pairs of free skis.
 
Oh this is 100% aggressive. Because I’m being told that this is basically normal and it’s the “risk” you take when you bring a park ski to the park. But To me, they are pretty new tbh. Less than 30 days on the for sure. The base of the ski that’s delaming is perfectly fine. There’s an edge crack, but hey? Am I complaining about that? I do front swaps and back swaps and 2s on to tubes. I’m not desastering a 5 foot drop or anything...

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14080878:mattytru said:
definitely a weird issue, id be interested to see if anyone else has had this issue with these skis. if not, id bet its a manufacturing defect or something out of the ordinary.

thread is aggressive but i think its valid to see if there is consensus regarding this type of delam. doesn't really look like a common problem though

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It’s kinda awkward because I have been talking to the Majesty rep in the mid-west and also reach out to the company. To both the say “anything caused by the park is insta-void”. No special circumstances, it’s not on them at all. There couldn’t have possible been a defect to cause a half a foot of delam, when the base and edges are fine.

14080904:TRVP_ANGEL said:
See this is where you messed up, instead of emailing the company privately, you need to first start a massive clickbait thread on NS calling them out. Make sure to say you didnt hit a single park feature but instead was skiing on groomers and happened to bump over a tiny ditch. Complain about how bad the ski company is and demand that youi are entitled to 3 pairs of free skis.
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And clickbait? Not sure where there’s click bait, multiple people have agreed that this delam is odd and have questioned the quality of the ski company they probably have never heard of. And 3 pairs? Sounds a little greedy.

14080904:TRVP_ANGEL said:
See this is where you messed up, instead of emailing the company privately, you need to first start a massive clickbait thread on NS calling them out. Make sure to say you didnt hit a single park feature but instead was skiing on groomers and happened to bump over a tiny ditch. Complain about how bad the ski company is and demand that youi are entitled to 3 pairs of free skis.
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It’s been about 1 month at most, cumulative of skiing on them. If that.

and if skis are breaking in a day, I don’t think the company would stay in business. Yea skis aren’t suppose to last forever, but with my type of skiing, it shouldn’t be delaming in less than a season.

14080858:Chubz. said:
Ski Gabber isn’t meant for kids (like you) to come on and tarnish ski company names when you’ve put a months worth of time into smashing your skis into objects that are harder than your skis. Shit happens and when you’re skiing park you should realize that beating up your gear will cause damage to them. Sometimes skis last years, sometimes they break in a day. Shit happens.
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14080901:FrenchSilkPai said:
Yep, the delam is very interesting and isn’t one that should “just happen” from rail skiing. I reached out to the rep for my area along with the company themselves.

View attachment 945900This was the response I got. The rep also told me that there historically hasn’t been issues with the vandals
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Sorry bud. As the judge of NS you have no case here
 
14080905:FrenchSilkPai said:
Oh this is 100% aggressive. Because I’m being told that this is basically normal and it’s the “risk” you take when you bring a park ski to the park. But To me, they are pretty new tbh. Less than 30 days on the for sure. The base of the ski that’s delaming is perfectly fine. There’s an edge crack, but hey? Am I complaining about that? I do front swaps and back swaps and 2s on to tubes. I’m not desastering a 5 foot drop or anything...

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Wax your skis ffs
 
14080904:TRVP_ANGEL said:
See this is where you messed up, instead of emailing the company privately, you need to first start a massive clickbait thread on NS calling them out. Make sure to say you didnt hit a single park feature but instead was skiing on groomers and happened to bump over a tiny ditch. Complain about how bad the ski company is and demand that youi are entitled to 3 pairs of free skis.
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Story as old as time. Seems like people never learn from the mistakes of others. About what, every 3-6 months or so one of these threads pop up, only to be rightfully shot down.
 
I don’t see how this is getting shot down. It’s 50/50. Your feed back is greatly appreciated.

14080927:BlumpkinPumpkin said:
Story as old as time. Seems like people never learn from the mistakes of others. About what, every 3-6 months or so one of these threads pop up, only to be rightfully shot down.
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I just did the same to a brand new pair of Lib Tech UFO 100’s. Rode them for less than a week, avoiding rails. Boggled my mind
 
I bought a pair a few years ago but ended up sending them back without even trying them. For me the problem was that they stated that the ski would be symmetrical on their website but the skis were not close to being symmetrical (they claimed 100% symmetrical but the rocker and tip/tail angle were different, even though they literally stated that this also would be symmetrical not just the width). I tried to talk to them via e-mail but they couldn't even understand the problem so for me majesty will never be an option.
 
That base delam does seem suspicious. I loved my Vandal 2.0s and skied them until they were toast. Durability was on par with everything else out there in my opinion.
 
Yea, like don’t get me wrong. I love the vandal 2.0s. I’ve skied my best on them in a while, and really wanted to get another pair after these blew out. But the delam is sus af, and the response I got back from the company and rep show that they could care less that this is potentially an outlier, or a special circumstance persay.

14080983:Lemuel said:
That base delam does seem suspicious. I loved my Vandal 2.0s and skied them until they were toast. Durability was on par with everything else out there in my opinion.
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Pine detuned them when I had them mount it. Same way the detune all skis that don’t have a factory detune

14081266:john18061806 said:
edges coulda been rounded a little more underfoot, that could have something to do with it
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14080927:BlumpkinPumpkin said:
Story as old as time. Seems like people never learn from the mistakes of others. About what, every 3-6 months or so one of these threads pop up, only to be rightfully shot down.
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I'd usually agree, but if the edges are fine the base shouldn't be coming out. From what it seems like to me is it's just luck for how long an edge will last, but a base shouldn't just start coming off even with impact.
 
Yep, half the people neglect that the edges are completely fine. If the edges were destroyed, I wouldn’t be posting this thread.

its the fact that the base is fine, the edges are fine, but somehow it’s delaming

14081297:TOAST. said:
I'd usually agree, but if the edges are fine the base shouldn't be coming out. From what it seems like to me is it's just luck for how long an edge will last, but a base shouldn't just start coming off even with impact.
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It could be just a bad lay-up. The epoxies did not adhere correctly. The base material may not have been properly treated to adhere to the epoxies.

Then I would have to ask you, do you wax your skis?

If so, could it be you used an iron way way too hot?
 
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