Lord_Piot...I agree

midwest_rep2

Active member
Hey man, I think your incessant posting about Bush is a bit annoying on one hand, but I completely agree with you and support you and actually want you to keep posting stuff like that. It needs to be done, it seems some people in this country are blind to what is happening and too lazy to take the time to try to understand how bad things are going to go. The world needs people like you to keep making it an issue so it doesnt fall to the wayside, because once people stop caring, Bush and his cabinet have won and we, everyone else, will be, metaphorically and physically, fucked. Even when people say 'shut up' or 'enough already' or any other phrase like that, i believe it is important to keep reinforcing these issues, even if it is on a little ski website. At least it will be possible to make a difference, even if it is a little one in just a small community of skiers.

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'haha he told his parents ahbout his ginormous cock.... what a fag' - linemaverick540
 
its always good to disagree and offer differing alternatives, but piot is definately pushing the rational envelope on this one.

 
wut are u fucking talking about, were u high when u wroke this or u just like gay porn, Lord_piot or wutever is gay for posting that, what the hell were u thinking. i guess in your collection of gay porn you decided to post your favoutrite web site on NS. ur sick, y the hell would u do that or even find a site like that!!!!!!!!! ur one screwed up kid get a fucking life, my god.

*$*Carny*$*

some fag skier kid- i can pull a 180 on to a 20 foot rail and a 180 off.

Chauncy- Wouldn't sac yourself?

kid- Nooo

Me- We don't have 20 foot rails here, we only have a 8 footer.

Kid-......

Me- I hear B.S.

Kid- ummmmm....

I survived the Great Spamming of 2004-eh Chauncy
 
^heres some facts for you SUpilot. feel free to stick them up your rectum. these are regarding the 'pledge of allegiance', its roots, and how our founding fathers were influenced by...get this... the French!

The Pledge of Allegiance

A Short History


by Dr. John W. Baer

Francis Bellamy (1855 - 1931), a Baptist minister, wrote the original Pledge in August 1892. He was a Christian Socialist. In his Pledge, he is expressing the ideas of his first cousin, Edward Bellamy, author of the American socialist utopian novels, Looking Backward (1888) and Equality (1897).

Francis Bellamy in his sermons and lectures and Edward Bellamy in his novels and articles described in detail how the middle class could create a planned economy with political, social and economic equality for all. The government would run a peace time economy similar to our present military industrial complex.

The Pledge was published in the September 8th issue of The Youth's Companion, the leading family magazine and the Reader's Digest of its day. Its owner and editor, Daniel Ford, had hired Francis in 1891 as his assistant when Francis was pressured into leaving his baptist church in Boston because of his socialist sermons. As a member of his congregation, Ford had enjoyed Francis's sermons. Ford later founded the liberal and often controversial Ford Hall Forum, located in downtown Boston.

In 1892 Francis Bellamy was also a chairman of a committee of state superintendents of education in the National Education Association. As its chairman, he prepared the program for the public schools' quadricentennial celebration for Columbus Day in 1892. He structured this public school program around a flag raising ceremony and a flag salute - his 'Pledge of Allegiance.'

His original Pledge read as follows: 'I pledge allegiance to my Flag and (to*) the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.' He considered placing the word, 'equality,' in his Pledge, but knew that the state superintendents of education on his committee were against equality for women and African Americans. * 'to' added in October, 1892.

Dr. Mortimer Adler, American philosopher and last living founder of the Great Books program at Saint John's College, has analyzed these ideas in his book, The Six Great Ideas. He argues that the three great ideas of the American political tradition are 'equality, liberty and justice for all.' 'Justice' mediates between the often conflicting goals of 'liberty' and 'equality.'

In 1923 and 1924 the National Flag Conference, under the 'leadership of the American Legion and the Daughters of the American Revolution, changed the Pledge's words, 'my Flag,' to 'the Flag of the United States of America.' Bellamy disliked this change, but his protest was ignored.

In 1954, Congress after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, added the words, 'under God,' to the Pledge. The Pledge was now both a patriotic oath and a public prayer.

Bellamy's granddaughter said he also would have resented this second change. He had been pressured into leaving his church in 1891 because of his socialist sermons. In his retirement in Florida, he stopped attending church because he disliked the racial bigotry he found there.

What follows is Bellamy's own account of some of the thoughts that went through his mind in August, 1892, as he picked the words of his Pledge:

It began as an intensive communing with salient points of our national history, from the Declaration of Independence onwards; with the makings of the Constitution...with the meaning of the Civil War; with the aspiration of the people...

The true reason for allegiance to the Flag is the 'republic for which it stands.' ...And what does that vast thing, the Republic mean? It is the concise political word for the Nation - the One Nation which the Civil War was fought to prove. To make that One Nation idea clear, we must specify that it is indivisible, as Webster and Lincoln used to repeat in their great speeches. And its future?


Just here arose the temptation of the historic slogan of the French Revolution which meant so much to Jefferson and his friends, 'Liberty, equality, fraternity.' No, that would be too fanciful, too many thousands of years off in realization. But we as a nation do stand square on the doctrine of liberty and justice for all...

If the Pledge's historical pattern repeats, its words will be modified during this decade. Below are two possible changes.

Some prolife advocates recite the following slightly revised Pledge: 'I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all, born and unborn.' (Note from Steve: What the FUCK?!)

A few liberals recite a slightly revised version of Bellamy's original Pledge: 'I pledge allegiance to my Flag, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with equality, liberty and justice for all.'

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I copied and pasted this from a thread in the so-called 'Proud to be an American Cult'. This thread was very much dead after I posted this, because the conservatives couldn't handle the truth. Well here it is... enjoi.

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-steve [always clownin, never frownin. s.1986]

[i treat each day like its game seven in overtime.

born to shine at home and over border lines.]

 
ride_like_fire...that was completely pointless and didnt make any sense. nice job. anyway, i graduate from college this may and going out into the real world has really opened my eyes about what is going on in the US now. I believe bringing these issues up is a good idea, and kids like ride_like_fire will get mad because... I'm not sure why...but they will but its best to ignore them. their responses are vapid and pointless anyway, usually like 'gay porn, ass bitch, ur a homo, omfg that is so gay. u r gay, gay. everything is gay, homo, ass sex, gay gay gay, i'm gay' that kind of response.

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'haha he told his parents ahbout his ginormous cock.... what a fag' - linemaverick540
 
republicans are very different people than you and i. they grasp an idea in their head and wallow in it because it is comfortable and familiar. they very rarely step outside their typical right winged style of thinking, and are afraid of liberal ideas that they don't understand. by confronting them with these ideas, they become nervous, and as a defense mechanism, angry. this causes them to lash out with whatever insult they deem so offensive (in many cases, being 'gay'). my point in case is, dont argue with conservatives, they honest-to-god aren't smart enough to understand, and will only get cranky.

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-steve [always clownin, never frownin. s.1986]

[i treat each day like its game seven in overtime.

born to shine at home and over border lines.]

 
thats just a liberal conservative myth. like the moon and china.

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'haha he told his parents ahbout his ginormous cock.... what a fag' - linemaverick540
 
midwest_rep, im with you on every single word you said in that first post.. Every last word, the whole world is so fucking stupid and blind to whats going on .. thats why i got pissed off at one point in the 911 thread that i think lord-piot started!

 
SUpilot - more like, vote republican, so your job will be sent overseas so you won't be working.

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-steve [always clownin, never frownin. s.1986]

[i treat each day like its game seven in overtime.

born to shine at home and over border lines.]

 
move to switzerland because this country's world perception is too skewed

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Silly Rabbits. Pink is for cheese! –stevexs2

i love watching people get nutted. i hate seeing naked fat people getting the box munched - BallinBU

numbers are for jewish investment bankers - sleezemcfly

im a straight up thugged out ghetto prep - ATLANTASKI

Looting, it's the new way to buy stuff! - Jib_This
 
^We have a winner!

J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot

'if it werent for women, i wouldnt have to wear condoms' -Hucksterjibber
 
This is to Killy..I guess i consider myself a republican and i very often step out of your so called box and i do look at both sides equally even if they are not comfortable facts, so just becuz ppl arent as liberal as u and Piot doenst mena they are stupid and dont weigh each side of an issue they just have a diff opionion than you . So i am offended by your ignorant and lazy blanket statement and hope someday u will realize ur views are merely an opinion and NOT in any way fact or truth.

To all the Killaz and the $100 Dolla Billaz.....Midwestskier.com
 
And hey if we are layin out blanket statements let me say that it seems to me Liberals just like to group together and bash repulicans without thinking of how it affects them. Example JOHN KERRY hos commercials bash bush and say he is pushin jobs out of america yet Kerry is married to a Heinz and out of their 56 plants only 22 of them are in america maybe he should work on his families issues with exporting jobs b4 taking on the whole country.

 
politics on NS really are stupid... point being, there are fundamental difference that have arisen in all of the bases of our beliefs. we weight issues differently. i will never understand, fully, your side, and you wont mine. and even if you do you'll probably write it off, since you disagree anyway. with that said, conservatives are gay and they can lick my sack.

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Silly Rabbits. Pink is for cheese! –stevexs2

i love watching people get nutted. i hate seeing naked fat people getting the box munched - BallinBU

numbers are for jewish investment bankers - sleezemcfly

im a straight up thugged out ghetto prep - ATLANTASKI

Looting, it's the new way to buy stuff! - Jib_This
 
skiyalatahata, that's not really a great example to use, though I definitely see your point. around election time, every candidate has commercials out bashing their opponents, so you can't just rule out one person or liberals or conservatives.

'hey look guys! For a dollar you can get a free condom!'

- a friend when she saw the condom dispenser in the bathroom
 
fucking christ supilot. you are god. i totally forgot. you are superior in all ways to me and the rest of the NS community. i am not worthy to post in a thread with you. please help me humble myself in your presence. fuck you.

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Silly Rabbits. Pink is for cheese! –stevexs2

i love watching people get nutted. i hate seeing naked fat people getting the box munched - BallinBU

numbers are for jewish investment bankers - sleezemcfly

im a straight up thugged out ghetto prep - ATLANTASKI

Looting, it's the new way to buy stuff! - Jib_This
 
crystal needs- what you're saying makes complete sense. anyways we american kids are raised way to fucking cut and dry. it's either democrat or republican. you know what i say to that? screw them both i voted independent...and then im moving to switzerland.

...taste the rainbow
 
skiyalatahata, people marry another person because they are in love. Kerry is no exception, he loves his wife for who she is, not what company she is part of. That won't make a difference when two people are deciding to marry, so your point doesn't really have any validity.

mean people suck
 
i love my nutz

im gettin married

“Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit�

Activism without chaos? or Chaos without activism?

'The problem with today's youth is not that our fathers don't believe in us, but that we do not believe in our fathers.' - Me.
 
You guys remind me of Hitler mixed with a bit of 'you suck'

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1,000 out of 1,005 scientists agree that CANADA SUCKS!
 
'It's second nature for any system of power to try and inspire fear Bush's managers realize they only have one card to play. Would you direct him to focus the attention of the population on tax cuts or other gifts for the rich? Or on the Enron scandal, or the deliberate destruction of a decent environment for our grandchildren? Or would it be preferable to construct the image of a noble hero driving evil from the world while the population huddles in fear of monsters from whom our dauntless savior will rescue us? No choice It is a frightened country and it is easy to conjure up an imminent threat They have a card that they can play ... terrify the population with some invented threat, and that is not very hard to do.'

-Noam Chomsky

 
heyyy...remember when bush stole the presidency? hahaha those were craaaaaaazy times.

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-steve [always clownin, never frownin. s.1986]

[i treat each day like its game seven in overtime.

born to shine at home and over border lines.]

 
kids like me don't use words like gay, ur a homo, if u do click on the site it says 'i watch gay porno', i was emphizing the fact that its was gay

*$*Carny*$*

some fag skier kid- i can pull a 180 on to a 20 foot rail and a 180 off.

Chauncy- Wouldn't sac yourself?

kid- Nooo

Me- We don't have 20 foot rails here, we only have a 8 footer.

Kid-......

Me- I hear B.S.

Kid- ummmmm....

I survived the Great Spamming of 2004-eh Chauncy
 
what makes you anything other than a sheep piot? its not like you are coming to these conclusions on your own, someone is putting those ideas out there for people to believe. im still not seeing any difference between you and a remember the heros flag waver

'He got fired? What did he do?'

'He jumped off of the roof again'
 
baa baa baa

sheep make wool.

“Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit�

Activism without chaos? or Chaos without activism?

'The problem with today's youth is not that our fathers don't believe in us, but that we do not believe in our fathers.' - Me.
 
Flexman your point is very weak if you ask me to imply that its the Presidents fault about enron is ridiculous. ANd ur point about envrioment is stupid to of course they instill a sense of fear in us every administration has and they always will. John Kerry is already using scare tattics he wants u to beleive that if bush is president we will have absolutely no allies left and the whole world will turn against us not true. Its not the only card they are playing by any means

 
Best point i have heard so far Line1260 genious. Piot and all u others who actually listen to his ridiculious and beleive them are just sheep in another pasture diference is i realize their are flaws in everything. You are jsut so self absorbed that you beleive everything is the true and are too narrowminded to listen to anyone else.

To all the Killaz and the $100 Dolla Billaz.....Midwestskier.com
 
skiya.. he didnt make any points. that was a quote, a good one. and the environment is in danger and if you dont beliee that you have problems, like most people. about kerry, all candidates across the spectrum of politics use different kinds of scare tactics nearer to election time.

___________________

Silly Rabbits. Pink is for cheese! –stevexs2

i love watching people get nutted. i hate seeing naked fat people getting the box munched - BallinBU

numbers are for jewish investment bankers - sleezemcfly

im a straight up thugged out ghetto prep - ATLANTASKI

Looting, it's the new way to buy stuff! - Jib_This
 
and all of this ^^^^^^^^ is pointless. it will not change anything. people have beliefs. but people dying is bad. destruction is ussually pretty bad. economic, physical, natural.. just try to take a larger view point.

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Silly Rabbits. Pink is for cheese! –stevexs2

i love watching people get nutted. i hate seeing naked fat people getting the box munched - BallinBU

numbers are for jewish investment bankers - sleezemcfly

im a straight up thugged out ghetto prep - ATLANTASKI

Looting, it's the new way to buy stuff! - Jib_This
 
yeah, flexmacman's quote was a good one, and valid.

fuckin fear mongers.

“Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit�

Activism without chaos? or Chaos without activism?

'The problem with today's youth is not that our fathers don't believe in us, but that we do not believe in our fathers.' - Me.
 
i still dont see why these enlightened few who can see past the crap and find realize that bush is behind everything related to 9-11 arent sheep. anyone want to help?

'He got fired? What did he do?'

'He jumped off of the roof again'
 
because for alot of people it's not that easy to pack up and move their lives to another country. if they're going to university, or have a job there they might not be too eager to forget all that because they don't agree with the way the country is being run.

'hey look guys! For a dollar you can get a free condom!'

- a friend when she saw the condom dispenser in the bathroom

'We could give him milk after filling his epipen with heroin and turn him into a drug addict'

- a guy thinking of ways to get revenge on someone who is deathly allergic to milk
 
^because it's the life they already know.. and no one is going to be happy with their life no matter what, but if life were perfect every day then it would suck. So in the end, live your life whatever way you want, believe what you want and dont give a fuck how others chose to live their life

I wasnt only directing my post to the guy above me..

 
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