Lord Give Me Strength

nobody is forcing u to wear a helmet bro, u dont have to proclaim it to the world. go ahead and bash ur skull in when u catch a rail wrong, i won't be there to care if u had a helmet on or not. but u sure will!
 
I'm utterly saddened every time seeing a thread like this. Please wear a helmet every second when skiing. Dementia at 50 is just not cool enough. The kids look up to you and will wear one if you do. And the kids after them look up to the kids who looked up to you. Helmets look very satisfying nowadays and are comfy as hell.
 
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Just goofin, had my earbud in my hand trying to shove it back in my ear. Was skiing switch, went around a couple and all of a sudden was in a lightly covered rock patch. Took a fall backwards at a slow speed but the old girl saved me.

**This post was edited on Mar 12th 2023 at 10:58:28am
 
Got concussed pretty bad on a cat track wearing a helmet like 4 years ago. Anytime I’m stepping into bindings I’m wearing one, you never know when it’s gonna happen. Most of my worst injuries skiing have come when I’m just chilling fucking around, not skiing gnarly shit when I’m more tuned in/on edge.
 
14518700:Yukon_Cornelius said:
Real shit, helmets can be looking wack af, but I will never not wear one. Here's a scared-straight-esque story for me, and maybe also for you:

One weekend last June I was having a blast getting some laps in with the homies. There was such little snow last season, it was amazing to still have enough to have a jump line so late. Tons of people still in the park, peak vibes. Watched a dude absolutely rocket a 3 on the medium line (read ~25') and under-rotate by almost 90, causing him to downhill edge on landing and catapult his body/head into the snow. No helmet. This dude hit the motherfuck out of the side of his head, like you could hear contact, even with how slushy/soft the snow was.

When homie didn't get up, everyone started to sprint over. Dude was eyes closed, and WAS NOT BREATHING. Some kids book it down the hill screaming for patrol, the rest just crowd around. I had previously been a medic, and some random dad that happened to be hot-dogging down the hill and saw what happened and stopped was a doctor, and the two of us start trying to do whatever we can to save or at least prolong homeboy's life until patrol arrives. Dude's girlfriend/whatever-she-was is screaming, crying over his body, and trying to give whatever info she can about him.

After a few minutes, homeboy's breathing returns super sporadically (a few breaths every 15-30 seconds) and he starts showing decorticate posturing (picture an uncontrollable full-body flex trying to get into the fetal position), which is a sign of an absolutely savage traumatic brain injury. Dude starts moaning and trying to flail, and patrol finally arrives maybe ~10min after the fall. That's as good as he got. we never saw him "come to" or even say a word or respond to anything. We help get this dude secured onto a board and litter, and a shortly after, a helicopter shows up and airlifts him out to the closest trauma center.

I have no idea what happened to him after that, but no matter how it shook out for homie almost a year ago now, his life will never ever be the same. Gnarly brain injuries don't heal like a wrist or collarbone, and once you experience legit brain damage, there is very very little that you can do relative to most physical injuries. A helmet that doesn't fit your head right might look super lame, but not as lame as an electric wheelchair, or the psychological, mental, and emotional complications from life-altering brain injuries.

tldr; I recommend finding a helmet that fits and looks alright, and wearing that shit.

EXACTLY. I’ve had around five concussions, a couple from skiing, and TBIs (traumatic brain injuries) can severely impact your way of life - light and sound sensitivity, your ability to learn new things, you get STUPID. up to you whether or not you wear a helmet, but I highly doubt anyone watching your clips cares if you’re wearing a helmet or not.
 
You have the Zahner skis and Sweet protection like Zahner. Have you not heard how he hit his head really bad in the streets? That’s why he pretty much always wears a helmet when skiing now. I saw a video about it somewhere.
 
14518808:BradFiAusNzCoCa said:
You have the Zahner skis and Sweet protection like Zahner. Have you not heard how he hit his head really bad in the streets? That’s why he pretty much always wears a helmet when skiing now. I saw a video about it somewhere.

I know him well enough. But that’s kinda the whole point of the thread, like he knows why he has to wear one, he’s experienced it and he knows how fucked he can be if he doesn’t. I’ve had 1 concussion in 10 years of park, I’m not motivated to wear one at all, but that’s why I made the thread, needed to be reminded of why and there were some actual good examples. The one vid Noah’s ark or whatever posted where it’s all dudes fuckin around laughing, homie takes a mild slam and kinda rides out of it into a tree and starts screaming was pretty chilling. That was what I needed lol
 
Saw some kid go into a seizure after landing on his head trying a backflip. No helmet on, not sure if that would have done much, but maybe wouldn’t have been as bad. Sad thing was, kid looked 12-13, definitely in middle school, just out having a good time and then put into a situation where he could easily have died within a minute.
 
How do you ski? I have hit my head one way or another too many times to count, and would have negative brain cells if I didn’t wear a helmet. Also work as a liftie and see people hurt themselves every day and with no protection we would need an ambulance almost daily

14518634:Farmville420 said:
Haven’t had this happen to me yet thank god, the only time I’ve ever hit my head skiing was when my ski ejected, flew in the air, and landed on my head (super mild concussion). Hard to even imagine what a real blow to the head even feels like if I sit and think about it, does it hurt?
 
Ultimately, it’s up to you. But to add to other stories, I know someone who’s spouse got a traumatic brain injury (different sport) without a helmet from an accident. Ended up living 20 years in assisted living and it was extremely difficult on both of them. Also know people who have wrecked hard cycling and walked away with only cracked helmets.
 
Good. Nobody goes out expecting to hit their head. It happens fast

14518812:Farmville420 said:
The one vid Noah’s ark or whatever posted where it’s all dudes fuckin around laughing, homie takes a mild slam and kinda rides out of it into a tree and starts screaming was pretty chilling. That was what I needed lol
 
14518635:BigmoneyMatt said:
B-dog had made a comment, that alluded to the fact that wearing a helmet consistently causes a higher chance to tank hits with the head leading to a higher likely-hood of hitting the head.

I agree with this evaluation.

Wearing a helmet, through implication of protection, causes a higher chance of concussion.

This is a pretty retarded take. If you’re aware that hits to the head even with a helmet can cause a concussion, and you’re aware of the type of impacts that can cause a concussion, you’re going to try to avoid those impacts even with a helmet on. However, there are cases where those impacts are unavoidable. A helmet is extremely easy to wear and can protect against some of the damage from those unavoidable impacts. Anyone who consistently wears a helmet knows firsthand what hitting your head with a helmet on feels like, and it definitely doesn’t make you feel like tanking any hits to the head.
 
14518700:Yukon_Cornelius said:
Real shit, helmets can be looking wack af, but I will never not wear one. Here's a scared-straight-esque story for me, and maybe also for you:

One weekend last June I was having a blast getting some laps in with the homies. There was such little snow last season, it was amazing to still have enough to have a jump line so late. Tons of people still in the park, peak vibes. Watched a dude absolutely rocket a 3 on the medium line (read ~25') and under-rotate by almost 90, causing him to downhill edge on landing and catapult his body/head into the snow. No helmet. This dude hit the motherfuck out of the side of his head, like you could hear contact, even with how slushy/soft the snow was.

When homie didn't get up, everyone started to sprint over. Dude was eyes closed, and WAS NOT BREATHING. Some kids book it down the hill screaming for patrol, the rest just crowd around. I had previously been a medic, and some random dad that happened to be hot-dogging down the hill and saw what happened and stopped was a doctor, and the two of us start trying to do whatever we can to save or at least prolong homeboy's life until patrol arrives. Dude's girlfriend/whatever-she-was is screaming, crying over his body, and trying to give whatever info she can about him.

After a few minutes, homeboy's breathing returns super sporadically (a few breaths every 15-30 seconds) and he starts showing decorticate posturing (picture an uncontrollable full-body flex trying to get into the fetal position), which is a sign of an absolutely savage traumatic brain injury. Dude starts moaning and trying to flail, and patrol finally arrives maybe ~10min after the fall. That's as good as he got. we never saw him "come to" or even say a word or respond to anything. We help get this dude secured onto a board and litter, and a shortly after, a helicopter shows up and airlifts him out to the closest trauma center.

I have no idea what happened to him after that, but no matter how it shook out for homie almost a year ago now, his life will never ever be the same. Gnarly brain injuries don't heal like a wrist or collarbone, and once you experience legit brain damage, there is very very little that you can do relative to most physical injuries. A helmet that doesn't fit your head right might look super lame, but not as lame as an electric wheelchair, or the psychological, mental, and emotional complications from life-altering brain injuries.

tldr; I recommend finding a helmet that fits and looks alright, and wearing that shit.

holy fuck that's horrible.

also i hate to say it but i told u (newschoolers) so, landing at 270 CAN fuck you up
 
You are legit delusional if you believe not wearing a helmet is safer than wearing in literally any probable scientific capacity.

It really comes down to this for me, a helmet is more insurance that I will be able to ski how I truly want to for as long as possible. It insulates me to a certain degree from some of the risk of the kinds of things I want to do on skis. You don't have to wear a helmet of you don't want to, but you also don't have to change your oil in your car, or drive the speed limit. Depending on how long you do any of it for, there may be consequences, there may not be. I just don't truly believe any of us that are able bodied and relatively normal are actually, truthfully, honestly willing to accept the risks of a serious head injury that can result from not wearing a helmet vs wearing one
 
14518979:Schoess said:
You are legit delusional if you believe not wearing a helmet is safer than wearing in literally any probable scientific capacity.

I think ur delusional because I literally never even suggested this at all

Or you just missed the quote button lol
 
I didn't mean that directed towards you specifically, there was an entire discussion earlier in the thread and that was more of a PSA for every 14 year old voicing their opinion on that topic lol

14518983:Farmville420 said:
I think ur delusional because I literally never even suggested this at all

Or you just missed the quote button lol
 
Bro I agree with like 70% of your takes on this site and then am completely opposed to the rest of them. Majority of pros wear helmets and no one is paying attention to your helmet in a clip. Skiers' silhouettes are pretty exaggerated and a helmet is not noticeable in the way that it is on a skateboarder, especially not a low profile black helmet. Also, sponsors probably prefer for you to wear a helmet, it's not like in skateboarding where wearing one means you won't get filmed. Even then, that's a shit argument against them and the opposition to helmets is one of the more embarrassing parts about skateboarding (mostly, but action sports in general) culture and there's plenty to be embarrassed about.

Also, Bdog's argument is bullshit. If you keep a helmet on you won't ever think about it. I've never done some dumb shit cause I thought a helmet would save me, no one with a brain thinks that it makes them invincible.

**This post was edited on Mar 13th 2023 at 12:38:39am
 
I ski a lot and I crash around a few times a week. Vast majority of the time my head is untouched by anything else but me and my helmet, on tricks ending up crashing and tricks ending up not crashing.

But the few crashes per season where my head actually touches snow, ice, plastic, wood, or metal, it happens so fast, so unpredictably, and with so much force, it's unavoidable and impossible to understand in the crash itself.

It's over in a fraction of a second, most of the time on the stupidest little thing you know how to do in your sleep or a few seconds after you've just landed something hard and succeeded on something you've wanted to do for a while. When you have your guard down and you don't understand it, because you've subconsciously told your brain it's nothing to worry about.

Most of the time it's the sudden little wonky mistakes that get you when you're too tired or too excited and not listening to your subconscious on the right frequency (in trick sports you obviously need the skill to override it too, but that's a different story). Not the big crashes you've prepared yourself for.
 
14518911:icecoastshredder said:
This is a pretty retarded take. If you’re aware that hits to the head even with a helmet can cause a concussion, and you’re aware of the type of impacts that can cause a concussion, you’re going to try to avoid those impacts even with a helmet on. However, there are cases where those impacts are unavoidable. A helmet is extremely easy to wear and can protect against some of the damage from those unavoidable impacts. Anyone who consistently wears a helmet knows firsthand what hitting your head with a helmet on feels like, and it definitely doesn’t make you feel like tanking any hits to the head.

I didn't even read your comment because your opinion is irrelevant to me.
 
Idk man yall trippin, I believe you should wear anything u want rlly. Helmet or not I don't fuckin care rlly. Ur not wearing 1 thts ur choice, I think regulating it is dumb.

Same with seatbelts, I don't need a fuckin 200 dollar ticket or whatever for wearing a seatbelt.
 
14518988:Slowbro said:
Bro I agree with like 70% of your takes on this site and then am completely opposed to the rest of them. Majority of pros lEven then, that's a shit argument against them and the opposition to helmets is one of the more embarrassing parts about skateboarding (mostly, but action sports in general) culture and there's plenty to be embarrassed about.

Even skateboarders are starting to realize how fucking stupid this is lmao. Dudes are beneath the average skateboarder at this point

Super disappointing to hear about Casabon saying something like that, but we still have like 99% of the pro scene that isn't being silly
 
pretty sure a massive part of the pro scene doesn't wear helmets... i see no helmets all the time what are you guys on, do u just watch dope snow athletes or something?
 
I was on the wave of not wearing a helmet for several years because I felt it looked cooler and felt better when I was skiing. However, a couple serious concussions later, I’m back to wearing one because I need my brain for work, being able to effectively communicate with others, and not being fried when I’m 35. All it takes is one serious hit to the head and there could be serious implications later in your life.
 
It's super easy to be judgmental of your own appearance, but I, and probably the majority of people, don't think helmets really matter either way for looks
 
14518700:Yukon_Cornelius said:
Real shit, helmets can be looking wack af, but I will never not wear one. Here's a scared-straight-esque story for me, and maybe also for you:

One weekend last June I was having a blast getting some laps in with the homies. There was such little snow last season, it was amazing to still have enough to have a jump line so late. Tons of people still in the park, peak vibes. Watched a dude absolutely rocket a 3 on the medium line (read ~25') and under-rotate by almost 90, causing him to downhill edge on landing and catapult his body/head into the snow. No helmet. This dude hit the motherfuck out of the side of his head, like you could hear contact, even with how slushy/soft the snow was.

When homie didn't get up, everyone started to sprint over. Dude was eyes closed, and WAS NOT BREATHING. Some kids book it down the hill screaming for patrol, the rest just crowd around. I had previously been a medic, and some random dad that happened to be hot-dogging down the hill and saw what happened and stopped was a doctor, and the two of us start trying to do whatever we can to save or at least prolong homeboy's life until patrol arrives. Dude's girlfriend/whatever-she-was is screaming, crying over his body, and trying to give whatever info she can about him.

After a few minutes, homeboy's breathing returns super sporadically (a few breaths every 15-30 seconds) and he starts showing decorticate posturing (picture an uncontrollable full-body flex trying to get into the fetal position), which is a sign of an absolutely savage traumatic brain injury. Dude starts moaning and trying to flail, and patrol finally arrives maybe ~10min after the fall. That's as good as he got. we never saw him "come to" or even say a word or respond to anything. We help get this dude secured onto a board and litter, and a shortly after, a helicopter shows up and airlifts him out to the closest trauma center.

I have no idea what happened to him after that, but no matter how it shook out for homie almost a year ago now, his life will never ever be the same. Gnarly brain injuries don't heal like a wrist or collarbone, and once you experience legit brain damage, there is very very little that you can do relative to most physical injuries. A helmet that doesn't fit your head right might look super lame, but not as lame as an electric wheelchair, or the psychological, mental, and emotional complications from life-altering brain injuries.

tldr; I recommend finding a helmet that fits and looks alright, and wearing that shit.

Thanks for sharing this, needed to hear it. Although I wear a helmet 98% of the time.
 
14519502:Yukon_Cornelius said:
You put me onto the protec this summer tho ?

Them shits are the best I’m tellin ya. I forget it’s on my head sometimes shits comfy and low profile.
 
topic:Farmville420 said:
I can’t do it anymore, I can’t wear a fuckin helmet dude I hate the way it looks. Every time I’m looking back at literally any footage I’m so disappointed. I was doin some butters the other day and was filming on a tripod and I took the dome piece off and I just cannot find the strength to wear one anymore.

Someone talk some sense into me, I took my helmet off at 14 and hadn’t worn one again until this year (24 now) and it’s bumming me out a lot.

I really wanna wear no helmet, but my mom would go ape, and when I do ride without one I get scared asf
 
There’s a limit on how many times you hit your head before having permanent brain damage. I’m just gonna leave it at that.
 
14519011:BigmoneyMatt said:
same with seatbelts, I don't need a fuckin 200 dollar ticket or whatever for wearing a seatbelt.

When I was a kid my mom got pulled over for speeding but I had my seatbelt on wrong (under the armpit) and the officer changed it to a seatbelt ticket, which was like half the price of the speeding ticket. Dunno where it's $200, North Korea?
 
14519641:ReturnToMonkey said:
When I was a kid my mom got pulled over for speeding but I had my seatbelt on wrong (under the armpit) and the officer changed it to a seatbelt ticket, which was like half the price of the speeding ticket. Dunno where it's $200, North Korea?

I'm Canadian
 
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