"Looks like we might lose... election fraud anyone?"

J.D.

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ELECTION MIX-UP: 'OSAMA' ON THE BALLOT

Who is running for president? In an upstate New York

county, hundreds of voters have been sent absentee ballots in which

they could vote for "Barack Osama."

The absentee ballots sent to voters in Rensselaer County identified

the two presidential candidates as "Barack Osama" and "John McCain." In

the United States, the best-known person named Osama is Osama bin

Laden, leader of the al-Qaida terrorist group.

Commissioners for the Rensselaer County Board of Elections say they

regret the error but do not acknowledge in a statement exactly what the

error is.

The botched ballots were first reported by the Times-Union of Albany.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10102008/news/politics/election_mix_up__osama_on_the_ballot_133050.htm

 


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wow for something that important youd expect them not to fuck up that badly. next thing you know obamas going to lose because of another "mistake"
 
Acorn Fraud, and this is from Canadian press hahah http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5512

Every day brings new revelations of vote fraud by ACORN. It’s

getting to be difficult to keep up with all the crimes being committed

by representatives of the radical left-wing community organizing group.

The New York Post reported

today that Freddie Johnson of Ohio filled out voter registration cards

72 times at the behest of the criminal enterprise known as ACORN:

CLEVELAND - A man at the center of a voter-registration scandal told

The Post yesterday he was given cash and cigarettes by aggressive ACORN

activists in exchange for registering an astonishing 72 times, in

apparent violation of Ohio laws.

“Sometimes, they come up and bribe me with a cigarette, or they’ll

give me a dollar to sign up,” said Freddie Johnson, 19, who filled out

72 separate voter-registration cards over an 18-month period at the

behest of the left-leaning Association of Community Organizations for

Reform Now.

”The ACORN people are everywhere, looking to sign people up. I tell

them I am already registered. The girl said, ‘You are?’ I say, ‘Yup,’

and then they say, ‘Can you just sign up again?’ ” he said. [...]

ACORN is under investigation in Ohio and at least eight other states -

including Missouri, where the FBI said it’s planning to look into

potential voter fraud - for over-the-top efforts to get as many names

as possible on the voter rolls regardless of whether a person is

registered or eligible. [...]

ACORN has also used crack cocaine to pay its operatives in its various voter registration drives.

 
Ok - I'll bite at the bait. Who cares about a typo.

What I wish they would look into is the 800k that Obama gave ACORN and the subsequent fraudulent Democratic registrations or the midwest democratic registrations that haven't required decent identification.

Combine that with all the other eyebrow raising associations - Obama needs to talk more about that stuff than to just brush it off that it is nothing.

The ironic part is that got elected early in his politcal career by having his opponents registrations thrown out.

 
People may actually care about a typo if it compares their favorite presidential hopeful to the worlds most well known terrorist...
 
Everyone (this is especially true for those that habitually post in these threads), has already made up their minds about the character, qualifications, and validity (or lack thereof of any of the aforementioned) of each of the candidates.

Otherwise seemingly intelligent and rational individuals (on both sides of the fence), have chosen to brazenly ignore any evidence that their candidate is dishonest, manipulative, pandering, or otherwise unfit for the job, while simultaneously exaggerating or overstating the importance of whatever new "game breaking" incriminating evidence surfaces about the other.

The above mentioned ACORN "conspiracy" is intended to reassure those who were already convinced that Obama is a piece of shit, that they are doing the right thing in voting against him. Not all that dissimilar from the "Keating 5" debacle being used as ammo against McCain.

Whether you're a democrat or a republican, if you are voting based on this information and other tabloidian slander bullshit as opposed to policies, you're a fucking moron. Or, you watch too much 24 hour news network television and you don't read enough.
 
Those are 2 entirely different things. One is voter fraud the other is what? Getting mixed in with unscrupulous financials?

Obama is in this election for himself to find his place in this world. thats my opinion. What he does once he is in office, I do not look forward too. I do not trust him to be a good leader. Like I have said before, I was wrong about Reagan. I could be wrong again. I doubt it.

As far as ACORN he didn't know what they would do with that money. BUt hey, I thought he was a smart guy. Did he really give them a million bucks and tell them to go register voters and think that this wouldn't happen?
 
oh! and he didn't know about Ayers either...... Mister Harvard Law Grad.. yeah right... Either really smart or really dumb. which is it?

I am starting to think that the whole race card thing has the media petrified of tearing Obama a new ass... I thought race shouldn't be a factor. If this were any other candidate, the news media would be exploiting this shit to the nth degree. Think about it.

 
are you kidding me? the "race card" is that obama is a terrorist, a n*gger, and we should "kill him." referring to him as "that one" (mccain) and saying he "pals around with terrorists," (palin) calling him barack hussein obama, and all that other shit and even mentioning the term "race card" is all an attempt to stir up racism.

read the paper the ayers thing is bullshit, he had about as much connection to him as any chicago politician back then.

 


It seems to me that fear of the accusation of the race card is what is intimidating people from scrutinizing..

There is tons of in-depth information. Here, find any point in this that is not true.

"There is nothing "sporadic" about Barack Obama delivering hundreds

of thousands of dollars over a period of many years to fund Bill Ayers’

radical education projects, not to mention many millions more to

benefit Ayers’ radical education allies. We are talking about a

substantial and lengthy working relationship here, one that does not

depend on the quality of personal friendship or number of hours spent

in the same room together (although the article greatly underestimates

that as well).

Shane’s article buys the spin on Ayers’ supposed

rehabilitation offered by the Obama campaign and Ayers’ supporters in

Chicago. In this view, whatever Ayers did in the 1960's has somehow

been redeemed by Ayers’ later turn to education work. As the Times

quotes Mayor Daley saying, "People make mistakes. You judge a person by

his whole life." The trouble with this is that Ayers doesn’t view his

terrorism as a mistake. How can he be forgiven when he’s not repentant?

Nor does Ayers see his education work as a repudiation of his early

radicalism. On the contrary, Ayers sees his education work as carrying

on his radicalism in a new guise. The point of Ayers’ education theory

is that the United States is a fundamentally racist and oppressive

nation. Students, Ayers believes, ought to be encouraged to resist this

oppression. Obama was funding Ayers’ "small schools" project, built

around this philosophy. Ayers’ radicalism isn’t something in the past.

It’s something to which Obama gave moral and financial support as an

adult. So when Shane says that Obama has never expressed sympathy for

Ayers’ radicalism, he’s flat wrong. Obama’s funded it.

Obama was

perfectly aware of Ayers’ radical views, since he read and publically

endorsed, without qualification, Ayers’ book on juvenile crime. That

book is quite radical, expressing doubts about whether we ought to have

a prison system at all, comparing America to South Africa’s apartheid

system, and contemptuously dismissing the idea of the United States as

a kind or just country. Shane mentions the book endorsement, yet says

nothing about the book’s actual content. Nor does Shane mention the

panel about Ayers’ book, on which Obama spoke as part of a joint

Ayers-Obama effort to sink the 1998 Illinois juvenile crime bill.

Again, we have unmistakable evidence of a substantial political working

relationship.

I know what you are thinking......... bla bla bla blah........ all I can think, is that where there is smoke there is fire.




 
um theres fraud on both sides. Im sure these bogus ballets in ablany will totally make ny vote republican.not
 
didnt ayres hold one of obamas first political fund raisers in his living room back in like 03 or 04?
 
it was 30 years ago but ayers still wears a ring that the koreans sent him. the ring is made out of a united states air force jet that was shot down. i mean you will obviously rip on me for saying something you think is dumb like that but i mean if he was over hating the united states dont you think he could take the ring off. also im not saying obama is a terrorist i just think its shady when one of your presidential candidates hangs out with them.
 
haha u make it sound like the guy is just another guy who just simply hates the US, he is well known for hating on the US, not just "some guy"
 
My god , its people like you who make the world think americans are close minded assholes. Although im sure you didnt know that the name Hussein comes from the semetic word, Hasan. meaning "good" or "handsome." and that only relating the name Hussein to Sadam Hussein is like directly relating the name Joseph to Joseph Stalin. Please educate yourself before you speak.
 
call me a pawn, call me what ever you like... IMO it is not just ayers, it is the pattern, barack would have cut a deal with the devil himself if he thought it could have gotten himself ONE more vote... Wright, Ayers, Rezko.... ACORN.

Barack has a significant pattern of aligning with radicals, now IMO that says something about judgment, and what lies behind the empty suit we all know and love as Barack....... for a uniter, he seems to have some "crazy" friends.... IMO

 
she's kidding dude, she doesn't actually take that into account...if she did she would be retarded
 
this is what he doesnt get. thanks for explaining it i didnt really want to do it. he just doesnt see the pattern and how its all true. sorry man the truth is hard to believe sometimes.
 
OMG lol.. All you McCain lovers would be funny if you weren't so sad.

Of course, I have to put in this disclaimer every time: I don't like Obama/will not be voting for him.

But McCain..he's such an angel.lol

Actually by the criteria which you are placing on Obama, you can also implicate grandpa McCain and his daughter Sarah Palin. By those same standards, your beloved McPalin team jointly has ties to secessionists, dictators, racists, religious/social extremists, corporate criminals..etc

 
if this is your reason to not vote obama then america is fucked. how is a country like ours "supposedly an educated one" still have ignorant closeminded people (like you or if not you cause i hope your not serious)?

 
definitely, i would NEVER expect someone to vote against Barack based on these alone, but they are more fuel to the fire...

IMO though, the BIG idea here is that Barack is not, the "o most supreme leader" he was billed as...

for my own personal thoughts, i can kinda handle the Rezko, and if i really "dig deep" i can even handle Wright(to a certain extent).. but I WOULD NEVER have launched a political career, and would not be "palling around" (hehe) with a Aeyers, IMO he should have been locked up.

like i have said before, ill say it again. "America needs a leader, and i dont see one anywhere"

 
Didn't the "Osama" mixup happen several months ago in a newspaper or something? I remember my grandma telling me about it or something hahaha
 
So I found this on the net yesterday. So far there is no definitive proof that this is true.

As far as I know there is also no definitive proof that this is not true. What is true was that McCain has indeed been to the resort mentioned in this letter and the woman who supposedly wrote this letter does indeed exist, though she hasn't publicly acknowledged this letter. I would not be too surprised if it was a hoax, but I can easily believe it is true as well. McCain has a short temper, is mentally unstable as a result of his imprisonment and torture in Vietnam, has made very insensitive jokes in private and public that are documented by written and VIDEO sources (i.e. Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran). I've also seen video of him talking to the families of Vietnam MIA's and his haughty arrogance is astounding. His affinity for Faulkner is also documented. So I believe that this could be very true indeed and perfect reflection of this dangerous man.

MY HOLIDAY WITH JOHN McCAIN
http://myblogthebword.blogspot.com/2008/09/my-holiday-with-john-mccain-it-was-just.html

This has been posted on numerous sites and you can google: "My Holiday with John McCain" Snopes hasn't been able to disprove this either,

Here you go:

It

was just before John McCain's last run at the presidential nomination

in 2000 that my husband and I vacationed in Turtle Island in Fiji with

John McCain, Cindy, and their children, including Bridget (their

adopted Bangladeshi child).

It was not our

intention, but it was our misfortune to be in close quarters with John

McCain for almost a week, since Turtle Island has a small number of

bungalows and their focus on communal meals force all vacationers who

are there at the same time to get to know each other intimately.

He

arrived at our first group meal and started reading quotes from a pile

of William Faulkner books with a forest of Post-Its sticking out of

them. As an English Literature major myself, my first thought was "if

he likes this so much, why hasn't he memorized any of this yet?"

I

soon realized that McCain actually thought we had come on vacation to

be a volunteer audience for his "readings" which then became a regular

part of each meal. Out of politeness, none of the vacationers initially

protested at this intrusion into their blissful holiday, but people's

buttons definitely got pushed as the readings continued day after day.

Unfortunately

this was not his only contribution to our mealtime entertainment. He

waxed on during one meal about how Indo-Chine women had the best

figures and that our American corn-fed women just couldn't meet up to

this standard. He also made it a point that all of us should stop Cindy

from having dessert as her weight was too high and made a few comments

to Amy, the 25 year old wife of the honeymooning couple from Nebraska

that she should eat less as she needed to lose weight.

McCain's

appreciation of the beauty of Asian women was so great that David the

American economist had to move his Thai wife to the other side of the

table from McCain as McCain kept aggressively flirting with and

touching her. Needless to say I was irritated at his large ego and his

rude behavior towards his wife and other women, but decided he must

have some redeeming qualities as he had adopted a handicapped child

from Bangladesh. I asked him about this one day, and his response was

shocking: "Oh, that was Cindy's idea - I didn't have anything to do

with it. She just went and adopted this thing without even asking me.

You can't imagine how people stare when I wheel this ugly, black thing

around in a shopping cart in Arizona .

No, it wasn't my idea at all."

I

actively avoided McCain after that, but unfortunately one day he

engaged me in a political discussion which soon got us on the topic of

the active US bombing of Iraq at that time. I was shocked when he said,

"If I was in charge, I would nuke Iraq to teach them a lesson". Given

McCain's personal experience with the horrors of war, I had expected a

more balanced point of view.

I commented on the tragic

consequences of the nuclear attacks on Japan during WWII -- but no, he

was not to be dissuaded. He went on to say that if it was up to him he

would have dropped many more nuclear bombs on Japan. I rapidly

extricated myself from this conversation as I could tell that his

experience being tortured as a POW didn't seem to have mellowed out his

perspective, but rather had made him more aggressive and vengeful

towards the world. My final encounter with McCain was on the morning

that he was leaving Turtle Island.

Amy and I were

happily eating pancakes when McCain arrived and told Amy that she

shouldn't be having pancakes because she needed to lose weight. Amy

burst into tears at this abusive comment. I felt fiercely protective of

Amy and immediately turned to McCain and told him to leave her alone.

He

became very angry and abusive towards me, and said, "Don't you know who

I am." I looked him in the face and said, "Yes, you are the biggest

asshole I have ever met" and headed back to my cabin.

I

am happy to say that later that day when I arrived at lunch I was given

a standing ovation by all the guests for having stood up to McCain's

bullying. Although I have shared my McCain story informally with

friends, this is the first time I am making this public. I almost did

so in 2000, when McCain first announced his bid for the Republican

nomination, but it soon became apparent that George Bush was the

shoo-in candidate and so I did not act then. However, now that there is

a very real possibility that McCain could be elected as our next

president, I feel it is my duty as an American citizen to share this

story. I can't imagine a more scary outcome for America than that this

abusive, aggressive man should lead our nation. I have observed him in

intimate surroundings as he really is, not how the media portrays him

to be.

If his attitudes

toward women and his treatment of his own family are even a small

indicator of his real personality, then I shudder to think what will

happen to America were he to be elected as our President.

This letter was originally written by: Ana Dubey

And made public by her friend, Mary-Kay Gamel

Professor of Classic Literature & Arts

Cowell College

University of California

Santa Cruz

California.
 
Its still worth a read. Also consider McCain graduated 894 out of 899 in his class.

I guess most people dont care about that but it reflects his attitude toward many other aspects of his life.
 
Would it be too much to ask for some of you to pickup a real goddamn newspaper instead of shitty magazines and moonbat blogs?
 
I am sick of all of you socialist liberal fruitcakes supporting McCain.

I guess it makes sense since both he and Palin are at about your own intelligence level.
 
Kid, are you for real?

First off, I'm not a liberal by any stretch of the imagination. Ask anyone on this site.

Second, you'll find a lot more (if not all) of the so called "socialist liberal fruitcakes" supporting Obama, not McCain.

Third, if we're going to compare intelligence levels as you did with me and Palin...I'd probably put you somewhere in the ballpark between Tom Cruise and an orangutan.
 
Dude I have a 3.8 GPA and I am senior in college. I am a history major and I will be going for a PhD at one of several prestigious universities. I also joined the Marines on March 9, 2003 just a few days before the war began. I honestly don't know your intelligence level but I am sick of hearing McCain supporters bash liberals. McCain is not a conservative. He might be slightly more conservative than Obama. I could care less for either of them. I am against anyone who wants to expand the power of government in my life. I don't care if thats conservative or liberal. Those are stupid labels these days. As someone who loves history I am concerned about the direction we are going in. Socialism is another bullshit label as well especially when used by those who support corporatism.

Our country was founded on astounding ideas about the role of government and its subservience to its people. These ideas were not perfect, but probably some of the best yet. And this has been eroding more and more. So I am sick of the old cronies and little punks talking about bull shit issues while we are watching our glorious tenets of liberty disappear.

McCain and Obama are barely any different. I have watched speeches, debates and read articles. I am not unbiased and I like to be sarcastic. McCain does give more material for this as he blurts out whatever comes to his warped old mine. I repeat, I could care less for Obama's cult of personality and his demagoguery. These people talk in platitudes and generalities. Its a fucking travesty. Please open your eyes.

IF you believe McCain so much, prepare to go to war for him to make the world safe for 'freedom and democracy'. I also don't know that Obama would do any different, although he probably is the lesser of two evils as Drew said somewhere on the forums. I will still not vote for either one, as I'd be betraying my own deep held beliefs.

And don't call me kid, unless you've spent time in an environment which makes you more than satisfied only with food in your mouth and a roof over your head when you leave it. Unless you have been stripped of your freedom almost completely, your understanding of what liberty and freedom is about is very limited. I am not assuming this, you can tell me yourself, but believe me that in some states of existence death seems like a welcome release from captivity.

 
What I can surmise from your posts is that you're horribly misguided, regardless of how intelligent you might actually be. We really shouldn't even be having this argument.

Look, I don't care who you are or how great you think you might be, but anybody that gets totally bent out of shape because I knock blogs and a trash rag like the Rolling Stone has some serious maturity problems.

I'm actually in support of a smaller government, and I'm a fiscally conservative capitalist. I find it ironic that you refer to "bullshit labels" when you called me a "liberal monkey" a few posts earlier. It doesn't just make you sound clueless, it makes you sound like a raving hypocrite.

And when in this thread did I even say who I support? Does that fact that I actually get news and information from actual legitimate sources make me support one candidate over another?

For somebody thats supposedly a marine and going for a PhD...you really need to not at like a punk 14 year old and grow the hell up.
 
Okay. I totally admit to making stupid posts. And calling you a liberal monkey was totally stupid too.

And I don't think I am great at all. I don't think I am super intelligent either.

Honestly, I apologize for saying that stuff. It was kind of just general forum stupidity.

The bottom line is I was talking shit for fun and it really was not any reflection of you or anything you might stand for. I have no idea who you support, or what you stand for.

I am no more intelligent than the average person, I might be more curious that is all. I was in the Marine Corps, but fortunately did not go to Iraq. I know how hard it is for Marines to second guess our commanders. We are taught to follow orders and to kill. There is a lot of honor and pride and emotion that goes into it. So please forgive me for being a raving hypocrite in this thread. I do believe that many people who support John McCain are just as "liberal" as the people they attack.

Here is what I believe: Political parties are unnecessary and quite harmful.

Natural resources should never be owned by one person or corporation. The President should have minimal power. Taxation should be slowly abolished or severely modified such as a tax on consumption or a tax on corporations only.

I am not firm on this belief, but I think that corporations are actually extremely dangerous to the free market and quite "socialist". This occurs because corporations have become synonymous with government. They are basically the same people in many instances. As in, people in government have corporate interests. This is very anti free market, especially when they bail themselves out. IE socialist..command economics. My understanding is limited so my views could change, but again Corporations do not necessarily promote a free market and I think that in many cases they actually destroy it.

We should not be meddling in foreign countries and their affairs. I believe in an educated and armed public. Not that we should all be gun enthusiasts, but we should understand that the purpose of individuals owning firearms is self defense and protection of our rights and property against both criminals, foreign invaders and tyrants. Government should absolutely be afraid of its people, and not vice versa. Government should serve the people and not vice versa. A well armed and educated populace will be the greatest deterrent to any invader.

I honestly also believe that my views may change with time or more information.

 
And to add to something else, I don't think that intelligence and maturity are related. Believe me Quinny, being a Marine does not make you mature. It makes you experienced in some ways, but you can still be very immature, and believe me that many kids that join the Corps are quite immature and probably stay this way.

I consider myself slightly intelligent. I also consider myself pretty immature. So the fact that I might be going for a PhD soon doesn't make me mature. I think I might have a bit more knowledge than some people, but I am immature for my age.

 
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