Nice, where can I get them for around $170? As for the condition, I obviously understand that skis under $100 are going to be in used condition. I don't mind if the damage is minimal (scratched up and small cracks) I do however mind if there are several core shots and a great deal of delaming. As you said, at NS I've seen many great deals. I once even found a guy selling 2 Invaders (in good condition) for $85 each, I'm pissed I didn't buy them at the time...