Lip Piercings

I disagree. That image just isnt gonna be acceptable once people grow up. You will never see respectable successful people in the real world with piercings everywhere.
 
i think if it fits your face they are pretty sick. speically if you have them and you dress prety sick, liek in skier/skater wear. or liek some kinda mix of that and crazy prep shit.
 
that is an assumption drew. the thing is what if in 10 years nothing changes and people still look down at tattoos and pircings. then your fucked.

but good call on the moderation part. if your totaly over board people will def look down but if you have only a couple of visable tattoos or piercings people will be more likely to over look that.
 
man it seems like you are assuming you know why everyone gets things pierced solely by your own past. Drew did say it best with moderation is key.
 
I dunno, i just think that body modification will always be just that: modification. It will always be viewed with a certian amount of stigma because it is out of the ordinary.

As for separation of self and fassion...ehh really? I was always under the impression that we are our actions rather than our thoughts. If you chose to present yourself a certian way that is a an action and thus an avenue for people to interpret who you are. I'm pretty sure that fashion designers pour their hearts and souls into their work rather than just trying to make something look cool.

Maybe to clarify ill offer this. Would one lip piercing make me write you off as someone i want to know...Absoloutly not, if the person seemed like they had something postitive to offer I would look past the oddity it and try to get to know who is underneath. If i found the person to be well adjusted, stable and intresting, i would find it even more curious why they would chose to present themselves in such a way. While the relationship may function perfectly well i would always wonder what motivation caused that choice.

I refuse to believe that an alteration of self that requires pain, risk of infection, and a change of self image is an off the cuff decision. I would wager that you didnt know how you wanted to change the impression you create, but you knew that you wanted to change it, and what response you were looking to extract. So its not so much the peircing itself, but the reaction you could elicit. I think your argument would hold water in the case of putting on unique shoes or clothes, but causeing physical alteration to your body is a different issue.

Furthermore while society may be following the track you outline, a social liberalization of sorts, i dont believe that it will ever become the 'norm'. Firstly becuase people alter themselves to ALTER themselves and escape the norm. Secondly because while some things change others dont. Business for example has remained remarkably stagnant in terms of attire for decades. Asside from casual fridays (which are on the decline) industry has remained fixated on the suit and tie uniform. Why? Suits have a stigma of power attached to them, not to mention that they tend to make fat men look skinny (super convenient).

I just feel bad for people trying to fight the power of societal norms. I tried to do it when i was younger and more foolish. I am still not wise but i have come to recognise battles i can win and battles that are beyond me. Does the social rouge in the local mall, swathed in absurd dress, bearing a face full of metal change my preconceptions about norms...no. Does a well articulated arument about a need to throw asside our unsubstanciated intrenched ideals change my mind...maybe it does. Its all about picking your battles to win the larger wars.
 
It has been a pleasure discussing this with you, I've really been able to enjoy my finals procrastination

-The Cook
 
i have two, both are really small, a stud in my lip and a stud in my labret, one right above the other. i think lip rings on guys, if they're on the side, are pretty hotxcore
 
you sir, obviously havent realized that the people who are in power today lived through the 60's.

not every young person is cool with alternative body images. and i think mainly the people who desire power and will be in power 30 or 40 years from now are people who want to tell everyone how to live because they think they know best. these are the type of people who are not cool with lip piercings.

you should visit suburbia more often. youll find it a very unwelcoming place if you seem out of the mainstream.
 
Isnt a piercing in ur chin area *scratch*my*back super annoying to ur gums? I can only imagine it'd be poking at ur gums all the time. I guess you get used to that?
 
i find em a little gross, like the person has a big pimple or herpe on their lip. that being said one of my best friends has a lip piercing and i dont think any less of him but to me its just kinda dirty.
 
people always assume that its going to destroy your gums and teeth, but i had mine for around 6 months and went to the dentist the week after i took it out and he didn't even notice.

and getting a job with a lip ring is a littleee ridiculous...or so i found
 
wrong...i did both mine and it didnt really hurt suprisingly ...i did one and was kinda scared but it didnt hurt so like 3 days later i did the other. but...i would advise to do it in the summer because Healing + Metal + Cold ass ski season weather = lots of pain
 
yeah the first few days i had it it felt funny but no it doesn't affect my gums unless i play with it or push it against my gums.

so yeah i guess you could say you get used to it, but fairly quickly.

also it doesnt hurt. i can honestly say that labret piercings are the least painful piercing, at least for me it was.
 
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