Line vision 114 and bindings

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I really like the look of the new vision line, especially the 114.

The newschoolers review really made me interested. Looks super surfy and fun.

Is it worth it to spend more on shift2 then the first one? Or maybe duke pt 12/13 ? I mostly ski pretty chill and not

that aggressive.
 
If you are dead set on a hybrid binding, then the only thing I would recommend is to avoid the first shift. It is finnicky, prerelease problems, brake lock problems, durability problems. If you want the shift then hopefully the shift 2 fixes all those, then it would be a great choice for sure. I have heard mixed reviews about the duke PT, with some of the more chill skiers loving them and a couple of friends who rip hard blew them up after a month.

I would look into CAST- Lots of metal construction, and honestly the only binding I would ever daily in bounds. I have beat mine to a pulp and no complaints at all.

If you are going to mostly tour on them with the occasional pow day in bounds, it may be worth getting ATK Freeraiders
 
Shift 2 isn't much better. A rep gave me some for testing and I blew them up. Landed backseat and the little toe wings went poof.

14630033:hamsauce said:
If you want the shift then hopefully the shift 2 fixes all those, then it would be a great choice for sure.
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14630071:BallClapper said:
Shift 2 isn't much better. A rep gave me some for testing and I blew them up. Landed backseat and the little toe wings went poof.
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Good to know. That is unfortunate. Did you tour at all on them? Seems like CAST is the move, it would be really nice to have a viable option where you dont have to remember alpine toes when you tour.
 
It’s a great touring binding, just wouldn’t recommend if you thrash on gear. Cast is basically indestructible. Cuz it’s pivot. The second best option to cast is daymakers. Think the pin option will run you ~250. Just mount a normal alpine binding and your set.

14630112:hamsauce said:
Good to know. That is unfortunate. Did you tour at all on them? Seems like CAST is the move, it would be really nice to have a viable option where you dont have to remember alpine toes when you tour.
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14630119:BallClapper said:
https://www.daymakertouring.com/collections/store/products/tekdapters?variant=42675453001914
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I think that the new daymaker adapter should be a great sidecountry binding that has one big advantage over cast in my opinion by touring on any ski you want practically. Like what if there's a rowdy line that's a short tour and id rather have my heavy pow skis? I could use the daymaker for a little added weight which clearly if I'm going to be opting for heavy pow skis id likely not complaining about
 
How much touring are you gonna be doing?

I was on the new shift2 for the end of last season and it solved all the issues that the first one had and you could hill bang on it a lot harder. you also don't have to take the toe on and off like the other two options.

Duke Pt went through upgrades for this season aswell, making it burlier and less finicky.

new CAST system is probably the most bombproof out of the three with the updated toe locking mech and being a full metal binding if you don't mind the weight.

If your only touring a little bit the new daymaker is a sweet little piece of equipment then you can run any binding, but the trade off is you have to make sure you have the extra room in your bag to pack it away.
 
If you're buying them as a touring/pow ski just get kingpins or atks. When you're taking multiple laps being able to transition without taking your skis off is huge. I have kingpins and cast and the cast is overkill 95% of days. Cast is sick but it's really only worth it if your resort has crazy sidecountry or if you do a lot of spring/summer touring in shitty/variable snow.
 
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