the touble makers are heavy. DEFINATLY not the lightest ski out. (i can explain what makes them heavy if you really feel the need to know) Goode (now DB skis) are the lightest skis out. but the lightest regular twintip ski is the 4frnt stl. the msps are almost the same, but they are a bigger ski, so tey are a little heavier. the 1260s are light, but definatly not as light as the 4frnts
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