Life without religion is 1000 times harder

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morocco_mole

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i would do anything for god to be real. i really wish i could believe. My life is pretty much shattered and im really jealous of people who can believe in church stuff. i think humans have evolved side by side with religion for hundreds of thousands of years and its so insanely unnatural to be part of this generation where its so hard believe what they tell you. fuck im sorry this sucks
 
What happened man?

Shit, the way I see it, this life and this world is HEAVEN, we are living in HEAVEN. Anything is possible on this world. Yes, shitty things do happen, but its part of life. To think that there is some magical place where nothing ever goes wrong is just bullshit.

Don't live your life thinking that there is a better place you are going afterwards, live life like this is the last best place you will ever see.
 
yeah i just think some people take religion wayy to far like the people who live in like monastaries and shit and like think pleasure is a sign of the devil? like correct me if i'm wrong but i've heard of people doing that stuff and i just think its quite crazy
 
i love being atheist

i do what i want living by my guidlines

i find that ppl who follow the bible or the guidlines of other religions adont have the drive to think or act for their selves and thusly follow the path their religion lays out for them
 
my personal stand is that

RELIGION is stupid

i personally prefer jesus.

i found something real.
 
ok now, i just copied this off my myspace, dont take my blatant anti christianity to seriously.

---------------------------------------------- ---------------------------My beliefs----------------------------------- I don't care what you think of them. I'm pagan. I believe in the old gods and the old ways, what I believe isn't some new-age hippie shit or some thing that's popular because of some fucker like that one scientologist guy. What I believe is older than that, it's older than christianity and it's real. Not some bullshit I want to believe because i'm a selfish asshole and can't grasp that I will die. This Earth, she is all we have, but, we aren't all she has. To respect the Earth, is to respect ourselves, our existence is a privelage. The Earth can get rid of us, you, me, everyone else, but we can't get rid of her. When we fight other humans, we're fighting the Earth, not ourselves, but the Earth mother, we're fighting freyr, we're fighting ygg, when we die we die. When your stupid fucking girlfriend dies it's because our mother didn't want her anymore, she wanted her to die, so don't fucking sit around and cry all day forever, her loss is our gain. It's our mother's gain. This whole bullshit global warming thing, the Earth Mother is telling you something. She's telling you you're hurting her. Brothers and sisters, it's our time to stand, it's our time to fight. to fight for peace and love, violence is not the answer the Earth is. Christianity has showed me this, that when a reverence transcends true belief the point is completely lost. If you believe in a christian god, I'm sorry, ut you're wrong. You believe in an African god, that's not yours to believe in. so FUCK YOU Christians, and all you poser ass kids that say their pagan just because it's cool to hate God
 
people who believe in god and the bible can do there own thing too. i mean you dont have to be a bible thumper to beleive in god. i am technically catholic and i believe in god and jesus but i rarely go to church anymore. i still like believing. and i understand how rediculously short life is and that you should cherish every moment and even though i want there to be a heaven after i die, i'll never really KNOW until i die. and until then im just going to live my life to the fullest and just have faith. i dont really knwo what im saying. life just too god damn short and its kind of scary. i just want to live a good life and live my dreams and have fun and be succesful.
 
take a bow sir. i commend you for your PRACTICAL THOUGHTS and LEVEL-HEADEDNESS amidst a populus of confused sheep scared of the dark and looking to place blames and problems crafted by their own faults in the hands of a superbeing in the hope their shitty life can be left behind for a heaven that simply can't exist compared to the beauty of the earth and its beings.
 
my mom is soo religious (catholic) and makes me pray and makes me go to church, she says that ganja is evil and god doesnt like it and all this bullshit I'm getting soo sick of it, I kinda just want to believe my own thing and not having her telling me I'm going ot hell because I don't wanna go to church or because the songs I listen to are from the devil or other stupid stuff.

she tried telling me God doesn't like it when women wear guys clothes and men wear womens!! wtf

sory just had to let it out

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Religion is for people who are too afraid to control of their dreams and lives for themselves. They always have to thank God or Jesus instead of taking credit for their own hard work. Its fucking bullshit.
 
theres nothing crazy about it. do you believe in anything? thats equally crazy.

note; what i believe is probably influenced by my racism, anger and misanthropy as well.
 
The quote, in context, reads as follows (emphasis added):Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man—state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d'honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion. Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.

I paraphrased, but I got it right....
 
he actually is right...

i believe its a direct except from the communist manifesto, i might be wrong

im positive marx said it though
 
i hate everything about religion and i cant stand when people talk about it. its all bullshit. none of it makes sense and i dont need to believe in some made up fantasy to feel complete
 
if there really was a god.

not some grandfather who lives in the clouds

but something very much alive and present?
 
i stand for myself.

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im so glad religion wasnt forced on me as a little kid. my mom made me go to church till i was about 5. then she realized i was more interested in drawing various versions of monster trucks on the colection envelopes with my brother. i mean if you beleive in that stuff thats great y akno. but personally i dont. everyone can have their own opinion but noone should be allowed to put others down because they dont beleive in something or they are a certain way.
 
this is exactly what im talking about. religion is all just waiting for something that wont ever happen. IF there really was a god who was in physical form and i could walk up to and be like "hey man give me some money" then that would be a different story. but, seeing as there isnt ill stick to believing in no higher being
 
k....I posted the whole thing and I said I paraphrased it and it doesn't look too fucked up to me...anyway thanks? nice contribution to this thread?
 
i agree to an extent. looking at things from both sides i can see why some people are so "addicted" to religion. then again theres the whole wtf.. that shit is just crazy.
If you take your post and replace "god" / "jesus" with "skiing" it is put a little more in perspective.
For most of us on this site skiing can in fact seem like a religion. we live for it, it takes us to great places, theres a very large following of people etc. Some people in skiing take the religious aspect a little further; before embarking on a touring trip to catch some pow, or ski the steeps, they ask for permission from the spirit of the mtn. when things go bad on the mtn we think the spirit was angered. when things are good we think the spirit was pleased - or that he/she decided to spare us that day. It is in our thoughts every day no matter what and we wouldnt know how to live without it. just like some more traditional religious advocates.
 
This is a little bit random but...isn't heaven white?, snow is white too...does anyone else see this connection?
 
I think it's a lot of bullshit for people to devote their life to god. I think it takes someone who is really weak and will just give themselves up to someone else and to control what happens in their life. Like how many wars have people started over religous differences and how many people have died? In a vague comparison it's Hitlers Germany he just tells people what to do they dont question and people get killed for beleiving in something else.
 
Just for example I have very recently been to two funerals both of people I was very close to. One wasn't religous at all it just talked about the person reflected and remembered and it was really nice. The other wasn't hardcore religous but was religous none the less and I got a really religous aunt and they say all this bullshit like god did it for a reason and they should be happy they died etc. etc. And too me it just seems like a huge copout like they can't face so tehy just say yeah it's a good thing because he wanted it. Fuck off dont piss on me and tell me it's raining maybe it works for some people but don't force it on everyone I don't need to be told it's a big fucking plan so i can cope I can live in thsi actual world and battle through cause like some people ahead me said this is all we got.
 
way I see it we are simply organisms, there is no afterlife it's just scientifically impossible. I've gone through some pretty rough times in the past and the one thing that kept me going was knowing that there is always light at the end of the tunnel and with every dark night comes a brighter day...Shit always gets better, if you deal with it appropriately.
 
religion is the cause of all wars. think about it.

Crusades- nuff said.

any war with castles and kings, before countries were around.

French Indian war- french were catholic, british were protestant.

Revolutionary war- america wanted some freedoms. like of religion.

WWI- German princes were given the freedom of religion from the 95 thesis by martin luther. Germany then became a military superpower. France and Britain were scared, so when the duke was killed by an Austrian, they took up arms against Germany and Austria which then escalated into a 5 year war called WWI.

WWII- due to the allies fucking up Germany from WWI, Germany was in a shit load of debt. This gave Hitler a great chance to become chancellor of germany, which later caused the holocaust, and WWII.

Vietnam- Vietnam didn't want religion, and that can't happen says america so lets send our men over there.

Gulf War- some islamic people beat up on some other ones of different beliefs and america couldn't let that happen

that might not be the only causes of the wars, but it did matter a great deal cause whom evers god is better.

I personally think that religion is bullshit. as long as you live a good life, and enjoy yourself, I don't think that you should have to answer to a higher authority to get into a "hevan, Shangra-la, reincarnation..." you should just go there.

but shit i don't know cause i'm not dead. and if i'm wrong fuck. i'll just live my life how i want to.

 
How about everyone is entitled to their own opinion? And if God can help them in some way then good for them.
 
you beat me to it by about 5 seconds. i was just about to post the many flaws in that one post. what do they teach these kids in school anymore? jeez
 
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here's what i think. Im a catholic, i've been one my whole life. I believe in god, but sometimes i find it hard to believe in him. i guess thats what faith is, trust in something that you dont know is really there. but thats not what im trying to say. People dont need a religion to be able to live a righteous life. even though i believe in my religion i also believe that whatever people do or believe in is great if it means them becoming the best possible person they could be. and if that means being atheist or whatever else but you're still following whatever you believe in to be a great human being, then I support you for whatever you do. if you dont believe in god then find something you can put all of faith in.
 
Very interesting thread.

I was raised in a pretty religious family, but it just doesn't make sense to me anymore..I guess it really never has. I honestly find it hard to believe that an educated person can believe in a higher being in this age of technology.

If you want something really bad, praying just ain't gonna cut it. Whether I pray or I don't, the outcome is always going to be the same. The only thing that changes the future is me. If I don't pursue what you want, I'm not going to get it. You have to be a go-getter to make things happen. Sitting on my ass asking some invisible guy I've never met or seen for something I want seems kind of pretentious. Why would I put my faith in anyone other than myself? I've found that I'm the only person I can trust 100% because I'm not going to betray or desert myself. Yeah, I'll make mistakes, but I'm the one in control here, not that dude in the sky.

It's also important to note that there is a thing called fate. No one knows what theirs or anyone else's is, but it's there. That's my reasoning for sickness, dying, cruelty. It's just the nature of life, and something you have to accept. Some things are just out of our hands.

I often wonder how people can put so much faith in something they've probably never experienced. How many people feel as if they've ever personally been touched by god? Has he ever answered a prayer, or was it more than likely just fate? I don't know about you, but I've been baptized and experienced a shit ton of religious stuff. But religion doesn't make me feel anything. And whenever I try and get into it it just doesn't work. I just see a whole lot of people being tied down. This world of ours has so much to experience. By accepting religion, I'm essentially fencing myself in. If I accept religion I can't experience what I want or be who I want to be. And the ultimate sin in my book is not living life to the fullest. That's my beef with religion.

 
honestly the fact that we care what other people belive is the problem. You can have any beleif that you want but once you start thinking what other people belive in is wrong thats when the problems start. I personally just believe that there is a higher power that has influence over everything,thats it nothing else. But if you come and start saying "you dont belive in (insert ideal here) you will go to hell, you need to convert/be killed, because you are ignorant/the infidel." thats what starts the wars, thats the root of all evil, bigotry and hatred. the fact that we actually care about what other people think and feel that we all need to conform is the problem, we all need to stop caring about race, skin color, religion, etc and start judging people based on their character.
 
well that can go both ways too. the atheists who care that other people belive in a god shouldnt care. who cares what other people think. worry about your own beliefs and dont push them on other people ya know?
 
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