Lie detector test

like a polygraph?

my dad has to take them due to his job.. i think it'd be pretty hard to cheat.. apparently they know all the signs of lying and i think you're hooked up to a heart moniter and stuff.. hah i think its better if you just tell the truth and say you're sorry or you regret it (and mean it when you say you regret it) hah..

and for my dad's polygraph they talk to his friends too, just to make sure everything you say is correct
 
the test is easy to fool yea, but some of the control questions are hard as fuck cause noone knows what they are looking for. cant control your reaction if you dont know how your supposed to control it.
 
There was an article one time in the newspaper that i read and the only i remeber was that you must think of something else, like extreme, too, like put a thumb tack in your shoe, and just let that sit in there so you concentrate more on the pain of the tack
 
like george kastanza(sp?) once said, "It's not a lie if you believe it." Try thinking of something crazy and bad shit you've done while they are asking you questions, because that will will mess up your reaction, and hopefully throw off the results.
 
yes i have taken one and yes you can beat it. All you have to do is control you heart and breath rate. You also have to make sure that you keep you eye's straight forward and constant. It takes practise but it is possible
 
not easy to beat but possible, like the other kid said, keep your eyes forward and dont be all shifty, take slow deep breaths and dont try to think of answers quickly, take your time and let your heart stay constant, if you try to jump into a question with a quick answer you are likely to get caught in a lie and then your heart rate will go up because you have to find a way out of it, stay constant is the major idea
 
it probably increases your heart rate and will make the control questions even appear to be lies. if that is the case then they probably couldnt use the test to prosecute you because it would be thought to be inaccurate.

but that's just my guess, i might be completely talking out my ass for all i know
 
you tagged a cop car? i dotn know if i should hi-five you or call you retarded. well either way props on tagging a cop car i always kinda wanted to do that
 
i think sticking the tack into your foot gives you something to focus on, listen to the question then push down on the tack to focus on the pain and not making up a lie, make the lie the secondary element in your mind, second to the constant pain
 
when they ask the warmup questions to establish a baseline, take a long time on them and think of your mom dieing or something like that
 
haha no i didnt but the detective sure did. i went into his office and he showed me it. it said kill cops.

here comes the shitty part

the cop who was the owner of the car had a dad. he was also a cop. and he got killed. i almost started laughing when i heard that. what a fucking coincidence. i kind of feel bad, but then again i think that it made my life more complete.hah

anyways... they cant really prove that it was me. the detective said that he was going to call me in and have me take a lie detector test. even if i do get busted for it the worst thing that will happen is a fine or community service.
 
in lie detectors, they measure body heat. people get hot and sweaty around their pressure points (temples neck, wrists)when they lie and are cooler when they tell the truth, thats all lie detecors measure
 
it'd be almost impossible to cheat on, since it detects the slightest of changes in your pulse and whatnot. plus, i'm sure the people who study this shit as a full job got it all figured out. it'd be impossible for one of us random shmucks to outsmart them..
 
i was thinking about this and then i thought...all im doing when i talk is making a noise. if i can forget about language and just talk then it shouldnt matter right?

this is off the subject but damn, i just started thinking about how crazy language is. its insane that different tones can have such passion and meaning to people.
 
they measure heart rate not body temperature. you dont get cold when you tell the truth, or hot when you lie. that wouldn't work anyway, because all someone would have to do is be really calm and their temperature wouldn't raise.
 
only way to cheat them is if you can control and supress your mind/emotions....

those people who meditate to the point of nirvana could totally beat a polygraph
 
yea, you can cheat. it's just self control, you need to be able to control your heart rate. It's all mental.

last year when i was getting surgery, the nurse needed an average heart rate, so to piss her off i'd speed it up, then slow it down. finally she figured it out and made me stop. (the nurse who controls the pain killers is not a good person to piss off)
 
Bite your tongue, think of a question you know the answer of and then answer the question you were asked. I think thats one way to pass it.
 
I'm gunna tell!!!!

The way I would do it is totally freak out for all the question, ie. make your pulse sky-rocket so that they have nothing to base the truth from lies on...
 
Thats true because they are totally not accurate, Some people can easily beat them

while other people are so nervous it gives off false positives. Just act real nervous and it will throw the machine out of wack even when they ask you your name, it will say that it is a lie, which proves the whole thing is a pile of crap,

Or just remain real real calm and it will also reveal nothing.
 
thats exactly it, it takes your mind off the fact that you are lying or telling the truth, so your responses are all the same basicly
 
they ask you basic questions to get a feel for your "normal" responses. all you need to do is lie on those and you will be getting tense and raised hearrate. when they see thats normal, when you lie about other stuff it seems normal
 
stay calm, the person working it looks for any irregularities in your pulse and other things when you are taking the test
 
just play it cool, and if the only evidence that they have is from your polygraph then they wouldnt be able to hold you just on that... polygraphs arent a 100% all the time.. thats why they dont use them as much as they could.. they arent very reliable..
 
haha did you actually do it? ive always wanted to but i am too pussy, this being the reason.
 
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