Liberals and Hipsters are ruining America.

such a stereo typical view of what liberals stand for, and of who liberals are. you act like liberals don't appreciate hard work; of course they do, how can you get anywhere as a country with out hard working citizens? the vast majority of liberals, and people in our country, are hard working. liberals are not promoting the opposite of what they do, they are simply trying to help those in need, which is an act of morality. If you look at classic liberalism, which is what both liberal and conservative ideologies are based off of, you will find a lot of writing about the problem of apathy. it is clear that apathy is very bad for a society, and can be the reason why a society crumbles. both modern day conservatives and liberals understand this idea very well, which is why both parties set out to prevent apathy as much as possible. unfortunately, every society is going to include those who are irrational, and who do little to make things better for themselves. so what do we do, do we allow those people to live on at an extremely low life style, or do we simply let them die off? we can't let them die off for two reasons 1.) (the obvious one) it is immoral 2.) there will always be irrational citizens, so letting them die off is impossible. after understanding these things, we must now look at avoiding stereotypes when analyzing modern day liberal politics. you stereotype everyone that is receiving money from the government to be one of these irrational citizens. this is very wrong, and a big problem for many who oppose government funded social programs. lets say that your father, a hard working and respectful man, was no-longer able to work due to a job loss, an injury, or his business going under. hard work aside, he can't put food on the table. instead of kicking him under the buss, liberals show empathy for your father and your family, and will offer assistance until he can get back on his feet and provide for his family once again. with out the government, your entire family would suffer, hence society would suffer. say that the loss of income made it impossible for your family to afford to send a child to college. that child is now un-educated, and will not be able to benefit society to the extent that he was hoping to; a social program can prevent all of this, and have great benefits for society and the nation in the long run.
 
hahahahahahaha at it again i see??? nice move alek.

i mean... i feel like i dont need to add to this. BUUUUT i will say that when i worked for a summer at First Niagara Financial Group as a teller i did see the people who come in with the welfare checks, and were able to cash them on us becuase they held a checking account that they maintained $.02 in just so they could cash checks at our bank, and of course they cash the ENTIRE check.. lord only knows where that money goes, certainly isn't a fiscally responsible move if you ask me.
 
you clearly have the reading comprehension levels of a 7 year old. You missed the party where i said this thread was a joke.
 
There wasn't really much going on international front? Kosovo, Bosnia, Somalia, Sudan, Rwanda. For how much you toot your own horn you really don't know what you are talking about. Also you mention all of those and fail to mention his lack of involvement in Rwanda? That is perhaps one of the biggest geo-political errors the world has ever seen. The US, UN, etc sat by and twiddled their thumbs while 800,000+ people died in a matter of months. Oh and it's SOMALIA. You know, the country where John McCain and George Bush were severely outspoken against action in Africa. Then conveniently were for promoting "democracy" when it was freeing people in Iraq? Have you ever seen the speech of John McCain denouncing Clinton for intervening in Somalia? Then he uses the almost identical opposite opinion when it was 8 years later for Iraq?

You say he ignored the USS Cole and first world trade center? If you read the book Against All Enemies by Richard Clarke there will be points in which he covers in detail about what Clinton's efforts were against Ramsi Yousef and Yemen/Bin Laden for the Cole. He actually had Bin Laden surrounded at Tanarack Farm but because he was met with such severe opposition (people didn't know who Bin Laden was yet)

Who did Clinton pardon that was a "crony" buddy? Seems to me like you are using an emotional disliking for Clinton to spout out random facts.

Yes Clinton was fortunate for a good economy. However you are saying he should be ridiculed for not advising policy? Isn't that a bit hypocritical? The only policies I can see being effective in the 90's were the welfare reform ones that decreased the amount of welfare slugs and policies that slowed down the tech/housing bubble so we wouldn't have had such a harsh disengagement when they decided to pop.

 
i can not verify if you read my main post in this thread; it isn't terribly low on the "reading comprehension levels", at least the work of a 14 year old i would say ahahaha... your not as smart as you think you are, and your "joke" doesn't play well when you are actually arguing with people in all of your prior posts.
 
If anyone has a sense of entitlement (to taxpayer money and comodities world wide ex.iraq war Oil) its the old crusty republicans who make policy in this country. Your hatemongering is a futile attempt attempt to cover your ignorance.
 
I have a degree in political science too, all i learnt is that i NEVER EVER want to be a politician. As well as most of our governmental systems do not work whatsoever and that each head of a party is a complete "look at me" douchebag.
 
just out of curiosity, what are you doing with your degree? getting a poli sci degree doesn't mean you have to become a politician
 
Of course i know that. but i'm not doing anything with it. its sits in my draw at home. I've been umemployed for 6 months and now i'm a surveyors assisstant.
 
You blame and criticize liberals for the problems in America because America is a conservative dominated country. Capitalism rules the majority's ideals and political beliefs and it can only stay there if it questions the subordinates. The only way to maintain a dominance in society is to remain unexamined by shifting the focus on to the minorities.

When somebody says race; you'll first think of Blacks, Asians, Latinos

When somebody says sexual orientation; you'll first think of gays, lesbians, bisexuals

When somebody says gender; you'll first think of women

When somebody says religion with a negative context; the last one that comes to mind is Christianity

(I assume you know all the above tend to be more liberal)

We think this way because the dominate beings (white, heterosexual, Christian males) keep us from questioning them and there actions. By keeping us occupied on other things, they can act freely and as the puppet masters.

So no doubt "Liberals and Hipsters are ruining America", because they threaten the status quo and the dominance that you are a part of. The greatest fear when being all powerful, is losing your power.

I understand you're scared, but try and be strong and think little one. lol :D
 
i don't follow your logic dude. are you getting those ideas out of sociology book, or are you making them up? the things you mentioned aren't necessarily attributes to all liberals; you make it sound like those attributes are a sure thing.
 
Your post makes no sense to anyone who has not taken three tokes while sitting on the quad between a slack liner and shitty guitar player.
 
This, America or any democracy can't progress if you just have each party constantly badmouthing each other and making a ridiculous divide fueled by misinterpreted facts.
 
I lol'd. The next april fools joke should just be to make a 'longboards and dubstep' forum all to its self beside nsg, that would be awesomely funny.
 
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X'D you made me laugh so hard. Republicans call all the people that doesn't mean the same as them liberals... America sucks so hard, glad I don't live there anymore... (Except for the parks)
 
I do agree with most of those, our rhetoric affects our every day life and shows how we perceive everything. I am going into college to study discourse and the way it transforms our world, especially in terms of association between different social movements.

Although, I just want to point out a weird anomaly, cubans in Florida more often vote republican.
 
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man you are an idiot. your probably sexist and racist as fuck, which is just unnecessary. i hope you know that liberals value education much more than conservatives; why do you think that public liberal arts universities out way private conservative colleges on such an immense scale?
 
this is such a dumb comment. you realize that the term 'liberal arts' has nothing to do with the college's political affiliation, right? also, there are plenty of very very good colleges with primarily conservative students. washington and lee, davidson are both conservative liberal arts colleges. vanderbilt, wake forest, boston college, notre dame are all larger colleges/universities that lean more right wing.
 
in a free world, liberal, high tax societies will progress slowly and "apathetically" and end up becoming slaves to capitalist societys which progress quickly and produce good technology. Liberalism is like telling a fat person to make himself feel better by going to mcdonalds. Capitalist societies work and will dominate liberal societies everywhere. and liberals love sniffing their own farts and drive priuses... its disgusting haha.
 
Don't even waste your time with the kid. He's obviously a fucking idiot for thinking liberal arts school were schools associated with the Democratic party. Glad someone else caught that comment too.

bobby.brown, you're actually on the right path with that last comment. While it was pretty extreme, I totally agree that the private sector is superior to the government. However, there are rare cases where government does prove to be superior (NASA and the space race for example).
 
And this is why your political system is so fucked up. Last time I checked liberalism was a basic condition for capitalism to work, not its opposite.

When do people understand that there is a difference between social liberalism and economic liberalism?

 
And to Laxbro: You apparently know nothing about who's spending the most tax payers' money in your country. Why do you try to divide the country like many politicians already do? To quote from a famous movie: "Stop hating, start participating." I'd hate to see your country going down the drain. :P
 
Stop being a dumb redneck and focus on a single issue so we can actually jave a debate because saying all conservatives are right and all liberals are wrong is the stupidest thing u can do, its exactly like sayiny christianity is correct and islam is wrong. How do u kno?
 
PNAC, Bill Kristol, Scooter Libby, Paul Wolfowitz, Robert Kagan, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld... Yeah the republicans keep some grade A moral material as the brains of their party.
 
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