i talked to a buddy that demoed them. he said that they were SICK. if you haven't noticed, theres what looks like a bubble in the width underfoot. he said it gives you a nasty edge that you really can dig into the snowpack with. he also said that when he under-rotated on a 720, they turned what would have been a yard sale into a carve and he rode out because of that feature. i actually almost bought a pair based on what he told me lol. but i want to demo them too. the only thing is that the tips are really low for some reason...its odd