Lib Tech NAS park series questions

steezyjibber

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just wonderin i was browsing other threads and the nas park series seem ill

are they light? comparable to what ski in lightness?

soft, stiff? what comparable too?

also how wide is the nas park ski?
 
Lib-Tech (Mervin Mfg.):

Park & Pipe NAS (Narrow Ass Snowboards)
2007-2008

117-85/82-111 @ 176cm

"HANDCRAFTED BY SNOWBOARDERS WHO HAVE FRIENDS THAT SKI."

"(not that there's anything wrong with that)"



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Manufacturer Info:

Lib-Tech / Mervin Mfg.

address: PO Box 981060

Park City UT 84098, USA

http://www.LibTech.com

http://www.LibTechNas.com

Suggested Retail Price (MSRP):

approx. $300 usd each street price (sold in singles) $600 per pair

Usage Class:

Freeride park & pipe

Your Rating (with comments):

(1="get me off these things"->10="I have to own a pair")

7 all around, 8 or 9 in the park (see other

testers reviews later) - I'm not a "park & pipe" guy, so my review

has to rate this ski for all-around-the-mountain usage, bearing in mind

the ski should pivot, ride switch, spin, pop with plenty of spunk at

any speeds off all kinds of terrain and handle any surface types

without whining or protesting, and be durable to the n-th degree to

cope with getting the b'jeepers beat out of it.

Summary:

This

ski plows through unfriendly surfaces steady-as-a-rock (for an 85mm

waisted ski), dead-on stable slapping back down to earth and actually

has pretty good bite on hard snow for a park and pipe ski. Pretty

strong and begging to be punished, it feels like you can abuse it on

any terrain. Keeps its manners at higher speeds, never getting

squirrelly or causing trouble. Predictable and solid. Not a willing

carver, but you can get it to carve with the right stance and go pretty

much anywhere on the mountain you want to go and it won't give you any

grief. Lots of rebound pop if you load it up and weight it properly.

Rowdy if you stay on it. Relax and it just wants to drift around.

Lib-Tech wanted a de-tunable P&P ski you could rip around the

mountain with without suffering from "one trick pony" problems

associated with other P&P skis with rounded edges. I think they got

it. One reservation: If you want to preserve your "Magne-Traction"

bumps on the ski, DO NOT run it through an automated tuning machine set

to grind the edges. It will grind down the "high spots" and you'll

gradually loose your bumps. DO THE SIDEWALLS BY HAND with a very small

stone and file when you need to. Go ahead and grind the bases and get

your bevel and roundings the way you want, but be careful with the

sidewall tuning.

Ski Designer:

Mike Wilson

Technical Ski Data:

Wood core ("from select dead trees"), fiberglass sandwich, PE sidewalls

"Handbuilt near Canada in the USA." Edges do NOT wrap 360 degrees.

Unconventional mounting position alert: Some people will want to use

traditional park & pipe binding mount positioning with this ski.

Lib-Tech recommends using the bump provided on the ski as the boot mid

sole point. It may seem a little "forward", but that's the way this ski

works with its Magne-Traction design. Use the bump for midsole. That's

what Mike Wilson recommends....or as it says on the ski "Mount mid-sole

on bump....or don't."

Unique "Magne-Traction" variable width running surface (looks

like a crinkle-cut French fry down the sidewall). The ski's width

undulates in waves. Waves are deepest and most closely spaced

underfoot, gradually becoming less aggressive in depth and more

spread-out as you go toward the tip and tail. (see pics below).

Lib-Tech borrowed this technology from their successful snowboard line

and applied it to their NAS (Narrow Ass Snowboards). Lib-Tech claims

you can dull your edges for optimal rail and pipe gliding as well as

catch-free tip and tails, for smoother tricks and fewer falls, and the

Magne-Traction bumps will still allow you to grip a hard surface better

than the other park and pipe skis. In theory, it should work.







Test Conditions:

First

test day: Re-groomered, reprocessed old ice storm junk ground into a

few centimeters of "Frozen Granular" (loose and packed) on top of

yellow hardpan with sections of some death cookies and death cookie

crumbs mixed in. Some really nice dense corn in the sun, deadly

pock-marked rotten snow ice fields off piste (you could bounce a

bowling ball across it). Not bad, but not packed-powder either....good

test for a ski's "friendly behavior" tendencies and anti-deflection

prowess across different materials.

Analogies: (this ski is like...)

This

ski is like strong truck that does great doughnuts and some wheelies,

but takes a steady hand on the wheel. Not for lightweights.

After Skiing These, I Want To...

Get some park and pipe pros to really work them over and tell me what they think. In this case, I am just the civilian tester.

Self-Description of Skiing Style, Ability, Experience, Preferences



5' 11", 190 lbs. Expert

groomed-surface carver, "old-style" race inspired, "foot steerer" with

fairly sensitive edging feel. Loves to hold long arcs with lots of

pressure on the downhill ski (you know the type), but also loves the

feel of both skis on-edge leaving tiny railroad track edge tracks. Not

an instructor, but 10 year coach for youth race team in New England

(bulletproof is the norm).

More reviews from some more days on snow to come in later posts and more reviews by more people coming...stay tuned...

I'll try to get more tester reviews up (as soon as they can type them up) at:

http://www.exoticskis.com/forum/defa...x?g=posts&t=41

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Second day report:

Conditions: Packed powder, tightly groomed corduroy, 2-3 inches of

semi-tracked, slightly windblown cold snow with some bumps and junky

snow patches.

The Lib-Tech park & pipe NAS can pretty much go anywhere without

any complaints. Beats through the densely blown eastern crud just

fine...only problem is a very low shovel angle...not much "float" up

front, but then again, it has plenty of contact length up front when

you want it. Lots of muscular pop when you load it up. No problem

lifting my 190 lbs up and out with just a little flex and release.

Really predictable, really maneuverable, good swing weight balance when

mounted "mid sole on the dent" as recommended. The Magne-Traction

really doesn't make the ski handle any different than a traditional

design in factory tune, but when the edges are dulled for long lengths

along the ski's fore body and tail, the ski can still be made to bite

on the packed snow when you need to, probably more than a "normal" ski.

The P&P ski is pretty strong. I think you could get a lot of miles

out of a pair and it will still handle like new. I think a strong

P&P skier could rip on this ski and it would hold up great.

Lib-Tech has a really strong ski for the money.

I think the Magne-traction design would make more difference on the

wider skis (freeride 93mm waist and powder (149mm waist) than the

P&P ski. At 85mm underfoot, this ski can grab the groomers just

fine, even without Magne-Traction. A wide Magne-Traction ski might show

a more dramatic difference in grip than the same width ski without the

"wiggles." There are tons of people who rave about the NAS POW Series

for a reason.....
 
i have a pair of the nas, they are so sick. your carve is real deep, and it keeps and edge like no other. id recomend them anytime. sick ass ski. they are super light to. and spin amazingly
 
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