Learning 270 's on or 270's off on rails or boxes?

i think its easier on rails once you actualy learn how to 270 on, you have to control your spinning momentum on boxes so you just dont butter everything and look like a giant gooby, when you twosev on to rails when you scissor it you pretty much have control of were your going if you have enuff speed IMO
 
I like to use rails to spin off or onto because i feel i have more control rather than on a box, I still have to get gripping boxes down, pretzels are weird for me.
 
i found it easier to do a 270 off cause i would just carry my momentum from the 90 on to the box / rail and use it to spin out but really you just gotta try one or the other and which ever one you come closest to land learn that one first then lear the other one

oh yeah learn it on a box that is low to the ground learing on a rail you could gat a nutbuster
 
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