LCC Gondola Plan

How much is the cost? $25-30 vehicle toll if not using the gondola seems excessive. That will almost certainly drive down visitors to ski resorts. What happens when the 2500 parking spaces fill up? Locals lose their minds over much less. This should be good.
 
Reading the full proposal phase 1 improved bus service wont even be effective until fall 2025. the gondola is phase 2 and will come much later, i'll be long gone from utah or at least LCC before that thing is built.
 
The bussing is going to have to be much, MUCH better for this to be viable. Also I’m assuming that employees won’t have to pay the toll? Curious about that. I do think that any long term solution involves a drastic reduction of cars in the canyon. I also like that they are going to expand parking in the gravel pitt, that’s long overdue.

as for the gondola, it seems like they are throwing in the towel on lcc travel taking less than an hour. It’s pretty common for it to take more than an hour anyway, but it’s still a shame that the days of swinging up for some powder leftovers at 2, skiing until last chair, and being in cottonwood heights or Sandy by 5 are coming to an end. I also wonder if 30 years from now people won’t believe you when you tell them that hitchhiking used to be a fast and reliable way of getting up and down canyon.
 
14543933:wasatch_rat said:
The bussing is going to have to be much, MUCH better for this to be viable. Also I’m assuming that employees won’t have to pay the toll? Curious about that. I do think that any long term solution involves a drastic reduction of cars in the canyon. I also like that they are going to expand parking in the gravel pitt, that’s long overdue.

as for the gondola, it seems like they are throwing in the towel on lcc travel taking less than an hour. It’s pretty common for it to take more than an hour anyway, but it’s still a shame that the days of swinging up for some powder leftovers at 2, skiing until last chair, and being in cottonwood heights or Sandy by 5 are coming to an end. I also wonder if 30 years from now people won’t believe you when you tell them that hitchhiking used to be a fast and reliable way of getting up and down canyon.

remember when you could drive up before 5 to get first tracks? I remember....
 
14543935:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
remember when you could drive up before 5 to get first tracks? I remember....

People are crazy. No first tracks are worth driving up even that early.
 
14543939:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
they are when everyone else gets stuck in traffic down below and can't get up.

Nah, it has never been worth being at Snowbird before noon, even on powder day. It typically takes patrol a few hours to open any decent terrain on a true powder day. So prior to that you are just standing in line with a bunch of jabronis getting stressed on second hand powder panic waiting to ski Regulator Johnson or Chips.

Roll up a noon. Snipe a parking spot from some tourist who is leaving because their significant other couldn't stop complaining. Unload at the top of hidden peak just as they drop the Baldy ropes with fresh legs and and no stress. Profit.
 
so stoked Utah is branding this as a fix to air quality instead of idk.. using $1.4 billion to generate clean energy for the state, or maybe buying water rights so the GSL can fill up and I dont gotta breathe the toxic dust anymore. Shit it seems to be windy everyday damn day
 
14543952:crimeenthusiast said:
so stoked Utah is branding this as a fix to air quality instead of idk.. using $1.4 billion to generate clean energy for the state, or maybe buying water rights so the GSL can fill up and I dont gotta breathe the toxic dust anymore. Shit it seems to be windy everyday damn day

Oh fuck off, Greta.
 
14543952:crimeenthusiast said:
so stoked Utah is branding this as a fix to air quality instead of idk.. using $1.4 billion to generate clean energy for the state, or maybe buying water rights so the GSL can fill up and I dont gotta breathe the toxic dust anymore. Shit it seems to be windy everyday damn day

you want utah to spend their tax dollars to clean the air because the canucks are on fire?
 
Wasnt there a vote on this or did UDOT just decide the gondola was the best idea?

I cant read any of the articles as I am trying from an EEA(European Economic Area).
 
14544035:skierman said:
Another perfect response from an insecure jackass who needs to virtue signal on a ski website to make himself feel better.

im feeling honored to get into an internet argument with the famed bikerman. for any potential mates: you know my virtues. bang my line
 
We just wanna see your clips. I want to know if you can front 2 or not

14544035:skierman said:
Another perfect response from an insecure jackass who needs to virtue signal on a ski website to make himself feel better.
 
The SLC mayor said that completion of the gondola is 25 years away. By that point SLC is gonna be so expensive that no skier will be able to afford a car to drive up the canyon anyway.

Don't fret, we will still be able to get our fill of red snake for a long time
 
14544116:little_boy_prime said:
The SLC mayor said that completion of the gondola is 25 years away. By that point SLC is gonna be so expensive that no skier will be able to afford a car to drive up the canyon anyway.

Don't fret, we will still be able to get our fill of red snake for a long time

Jump ship is all I can say. This place used to be fun, all-inclusive, but not no more.
 
14544117:CoolChillGuy420 said:
Jump ship is all I can say. This place used to be fun, all-inclusive, but not no more.

I love the terrain at the bird so goddamn much though. That is my home mountain and community.
 
14544038:oldmanski said:
Wasnt there a vote on this or did UDOT just decide the gondola was the best idea?

I cant read any of the articles as I am trying from an EEA(European Economic Area).

No official vote, unofficial polls show locals overwhelmingly oppose the gondola, and they also received hundreds of thousands of public comments during the commenting period opposing it (the most public comments UDOT has ever received for a proposal), none of that really mattered, as they ultimately still decided it was the best idea disregarding local concerns (mainly environmental impact, cost, and supposed effectiveness of a gondola in fixing the issue).

They have no budget for it though, so it will ultimately be up to the legislature to decide whether the "campaign donation"/kickback they get for their vote will be worth possible voter payback at the polls. It usually is, and they'll just time that vote early in the cycle so that most people forget about it by the next election.

Like others, I'll be long gone by the time this thing defaces LCC, still a shame tho.
 
14544035:skierman said:
Another perfect response from an insecure jackass who needs to virtue signal on a ski website to make himself feel better.

Lmfao your signature is amazing
 
14544127:Monsieur_Patate said:
No official vote, unofficial polls show locals overwhelmingly oppose the gondola, and they also received hundreds of thousands of public comments during the commenting period opposing it (the most public comments UDOT has ever received for a proposal), none of that really mattered, as they ultimately still decided it was the best idea disregarding local concerns (mainly environmental impact, cost, and supposed effectiveness of a gondola in fixing the issue).

They have no budget for it though, so it will ultimately be up to the legislature to decide whether the "campaign donation"/kickback they get for their vote will be worth possible voter payback at the polls. It usually is, and they'll just time that vote early in the cycle so that most people forget about it by the next election.

Like others, I'll be long gone by the time this thing defaces LCC, still a shame tho.

Thank you

It is a shame for sure.
 
14543949:Way*Mo said:
Nah, it has never been worth being at Snowbird before noon, even on powder day. It typically takes patrol a few hours to open any decent terrain on a true powder day. So prior to that you are just standing in line with a bunch of jabronis getting stressed on second hand powder panic waiting to ski Regulator Johnson or Chips.

Roll up a noon. Snipe a parking spot from some tourist who is leaving because their significant other couldn't stop complaining. Unload at the top of hidden peak just as they drop the Baldy ropes with fresh legs and and no stress. Profit.

works about half the time.

the best skiing happens on a storm day when you’re skiing hot laps right before you get stuck up the canyon in interlodge for the next eight hours. ask me about that anytime
 
14544348:Ole12 said:
works about half the time.

the best skiing happens on a storm day when you’re skiing hot laps right before you get stuck up the canyon in interlodge for the next eight hours. ask me about that anytime

this is true
 
14544348:Ole12 said:
works about half the time.

the best skiing happens on a storm day when you’re skiing hot laps right before you get stuck up the canyon in interlodge for the next eight hours. ask me about that anytime

Nah, best days inbounds are when they call for 2-4 inches or 3-5, but it overperforms to like 7-9 inches, super windy and the snow keeps coming in as graupel. The wind and low forecast keeps people from skiing, but it loads up on one aspect of the slope, and every run the wind refills your tracks, and the graupel makes the snow surfy and easy to float in, pop out of, but still makes for a great landing. Some of my favorite days in LCC have been when the weather looks awful and the chairlift ride is miserable, but the falling graupel and wind just keeps buffing everything out. Sometimes days like this are preludes to interlodge storm systems tho.
 
Id start with snow sheds as they proposed. That will help quite a bit. Then gondola. But this is going to take forever.

To many people, cheap ski passes, Not enough ski areas, big snow years, increased traffic and influx of people to the area. Yeah, you get issues.
 
14544116:little_boy_prime said:
The SLC mayor said that completion of the gondola is 25 years away

holy shit lmao that's absoutely preposterous. I thought I heard like 5 years or something a while ago? Figured that was too good to be true

I haven't skied in utah since 2016, seems like it's become a shitshow since then
 
14545210:Rparr said:
holy shit lmao that's absoutely preposterous. I thought I heard like 5 years or something a while ago? Figured that was too good to be true

I haven't skied in utah since 2016, seems like it's become a shitshow since then

Ikon pass + COVID was the perfect shit storm really
 
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