Not to mention K2's in general are a heavy ski, they can be helpful in crud being they bust it up good! But soft, powder days, I feel I have to work so much harder on my K2's than my Line's, I rode my buddy's seths, the first year they had rocker and the 105 waist. My Line Prophet 130 is so much lighter than those K2's. The Prophet is way bigger, makes the Seths look like park skis!