Knee bindings

Hey John, your UVM review was actually quite informative. I think with a better website, a good team with good edits and some tall tees for sale on the site and the sky is the limit.
 
Check out other ski equipment websites. See what they have going for them. Here, start with www.fulltiltboots.com I think they are a good example of a specific equipment site with lots to offer.
 
For the website, I want big high res pics of all the bindings, huge technical lists of specs and clickable explanations if I want them, pictures and videos galore of people skiing them and maybe even a video demo explaining the system. The computer animations are slick, and your site is totally directed towards your market, but if you want some of the freeskiers, cater to them a bit more. Check out any of the big name companies on here and their 'freeskier' division part of their site.
 
Ginko - to see MOST of that kind of material, please check out our Information Center:KneeBinding

Information Center

Thanks,

John

 
Hi - JSM here again,

Someone pointed out to me that PhuzzyWizzy's last comment regarding all-metal bindings went uncorrected by me, and asked me to respond. I had said that there are only a very few all-metal bindings still being sold, and that they are heavier (well over 6 lbs). PhyzzyWuzzy responded that the FKS14 is only 5.63 lbs.

PhuzzyWuzzy makes the same mistake made by many, many others in his belief that the FKS is a metal binding. In fact, the FKS/Pivot still has a plastic upper heel housing, as does KneeBinding. By the way, KneeBinding and Look-based bindings (i.,e. FKS) have the same genetics, as both share GEZE origins. That is why the KneeBinding and the Look-based bindings have such similar elasticity.

I believe Rossi still does make an all-metal binding, but it is not the FKS, and I don't believe only a few are ever sold.

John

 
John,

Have you a source for the 70,000 ACL claim, I'm a collece student working on a similar principle and need a solid source for my research.

Cheers!

Will
 
FKS14 has a plastic toe.

FKS18/180 is effectively 'all metal' - there top of the heel is indeed plastic but it's basically a cover for the spring housing and gives you somewhere to poke your pole when you want to get out. All functional/structural parts of the binding are metal.
 
your bindings are very expensive for the cautious skier that you are targeting with your binding, and also, somehow i remember knee binding claimed to be the only binding to reduce knee injuries, which is absolute bullshit and I am amazed that you havent been sued for slander, maybe the only binding to reduce knee injury in the specific crash that the sideways heel release is designed for (which is important), but the vertical release of a regular binding reduces knee injury from forwards falls, and the horizontal toe release of every modern binding reduces knee injury from any fall in which they release. (which happens quite a bit)if the sideways heel release is the only thing that prevents knee injury why does your binding have a releasing toe hmm?

anyway, does anyone think that the twins in the skis.com add are really really hot?

 
Hi – JSM here.

Maxwell666, sorry for not responding sooner.

KneeBinding DOES mitigate knee injuries, and it is the ONLY

binding brand that can make this claim.

All ordinary bindings (and also KneeBindings) offer lateral toe and

forward heel releases. These have been

standard on all alpine bindings for decades, and do a good job of mitigating

broken legs. But they do not do anything

to prevent knee injuries.

Your statement that the forward heel release reduces knee

injuries is misguided. All alpine bindings

have forward heel releases. They all do

the same thing, and they do it about the same way. Yet there are now 70,000 ACL injuries (and

countless other knee ligaments torn) every year on skis. Remember - all ordinary bindings have had forward

heel releases during the entire time that the rate of knee injuries has risen

dramatically – now accounting for about 1/3 of all reported ski injuries. There has never before been a specific type

of injury that contributed more than about 1/10 of all ski injuries. All ordinary binding brands have participated

in this dramatic rise in the injury rate.

The way knees are injured on skis has been well-studied, and

the causes are well defined. The only proven way to mitigate knee injuries on skis is with a lateral

heel release. And only KneeBinding offers this kind of release. Not only is KneeBinding the only brand that can

mitigate knee injuries, all other brands of alpine bindings specifically caution

that THEY DO NOT mitigate knee injuries.

Arguing that ordinary bindings reduce knee injuries is like

arguing that a wool ski hat will reduce head injuries. In fact, they weren’t designed to, and they

don’t. If you want to ski safer, you

should purchase a good helmet - and a pair of KneeBindings.

Check this video for more information: KneeBinding

PureLateral Release – Why Don’t Ordinary Bindings Do This?

John Springer-Miller - Chairman, KneeBinding

 
I’ve used them so I can add my take. I was aware of Knee Bindings over 2 years ago, but like many have said their looks were somewhat uncompelling. Then in Spring 2011 I bought them when they offered a red and black carbon-fiber version. So after skiing park in them for about a year I can give my thoughts:

I only ski park hitting 20-30 foot jumps most of the time, occasionally something bigger. While learning 3’s I frequently crashed and landed backseat. Many were spinning rear-weighted falls with the left leg splayed out. Not sure how many were classic Phantom Foot falls, but spinning crashes would seem to be a fertile environment. So with the kind of encouragement one would expect from the 14-year-olds on the chair lift, I eventually turned my 200-lb crashes into recognizable 360s. Some thoughts:

1) There were no ACL tears; lots of bruises, though.

2) Occasionally I switched out my Knee Binding skis (173cm Dynastar Distorters) for my old 161cm Salomon 720s with S912 bindings. Back came an old left knee pain between patella and shin that I’d forgotten about while using the Knee Bindings. Perhaps the elastic release was mitigating whatever torsional force was occurring while popping switch, landing spins, etc. In any event the Salomons transferred this pain to my knee where the Knee Bindings didn’t.

3) There’s definitely more control with the Knee Bindings. Where previously I could carve a sloppy turn with the Salomon’s, now I would drive in an edge with the same maneuver. A more subtle pressure would provoke a greater response. This forced me to clean up the turns.

4) I don’t know if the lateral release – the one that saves your ACL – ever engaged. I do know the skis flew off many times and I never injured my knee. Unfortunately there’s no way to tell if the lateral release was the reason for the ejection. It’d be cool if a plastic tab popped out to announce one had occurred (or better yet in my case, a counter.)

5) It takes more effort to get the boots in. I don’t know if this is a thing with just Full Tilts or all boots, but gearing up in the old S912’s is much easier.

Included a pic of my setup.

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i really want this binding to be good, and only thing thats stopping me is prerelase. there is apsolutely NO info or reviews of them in pow and backcounty.
 
Ok i have also used the knee bindings For a year and heres what i found.

1.) Durability was not a problem. Yes they are plastic but I never had any cracking even though i had been hitting rails all year long.

2.) They where great but i found them a bit bulky (maybe because i came of free 10s) but more specifically 95% of the wieghts in the back of the binding, this created some intresting jump scenarios. Like i said this might of just been me.
 
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