Kinda scary...

sampsihoyos

sampsihoyos

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so me and a friend, stopped by our local seven eleven today and i went inside and saw the most recent issue of TIME magazine with the cover of a polar bear on a piece of ice which has been broken off from other pieces, the cover says GLOBAL WARMING: BE WORRIED, BE VERY WORRIED. I'm not usually someone who believes everything that I hear. So I picked up a copy and just got home to read it and it's crazy some of the stuff that it talks about, how pretty much every species is being negatively affected by global warming and how it's recently been sped up very quickly. I'm not so much scared about skiing being affected, more so by the world changing so fast and that this stuff is going to apply to our generation more than any other. What do you think about it

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1176980,00.html
 
most of global warming isnt a result of human beings and their pollutants, the majority is a natural climate change the earht is going through
 
^this is what scientists get paid to say...

i mean come on...so human activity isnt related to the global temperature rising?

We are at a point where, even if we completely stopped today, the earth would still have a big trouble maintaining herself and coming back to normal. basically, we are at a non-return point. cool
 
^the article talks alot about how that argument is dying away because there is SO MUCH evidence thats shows that we are doing it
 
it takes about 40 years for the polutant to get up into atmosphere so what were experiencing now is from the 60's
 
I'm not sure about that, check your sources, but if its true.....then imagine in 30 years,,,,

we will all still be alive and wow....we'll suffer from it
 
global warming is very un cool. im sick of hearing all these mixed stories. Itr is almost certain that the human race has caused the majority of the damage to the ozone layer.
 
its basically too late. we dont have the technology to suck cabron dioxide out of the atmosphere. we can plant lots of trees and such but thats slow, and cant handle the volumes we need to deal with. Basically, were going to get warming of anywhere from 2-5 degrees in the next century. Given that changes of up to ONE degree have been hypothesized to trigger ice ages (milankovitch cycles triggereing environemtnal feedback loops) we could be fucked. then again, this sort of shit has always been happening, so we may be fine.

I dont know about you guys, but im stoked to find out.
 
Honestly i think humanity will disappear...in a couple thousands of years max, we are not here anymore. however the earth will stay alive and probably continue to make things live, but no more humans...
 
with all respect i dont think that stoked is the best way to put it, i would think that we can create the technology to reverse it, the will behind it would have to be incredible though, we would have to realize 100% what would happen if we don't fix these problems, several species have gone EXTINCT from global warming, i believe that says the most about where were going
 
i'm off to mars, who's with me?

it's true that human factors such as CFCs are contributing to the temperature rise, but it's also a natural occurance as said before. just like the earth went through an ice age, this could be thought of as a warm age.
 
well here's what i see:

-melting ice has raised the ocean level by about 0.4meters since 2000

-the atmosphere is holding heat given off from the sun causing the earth to heat up

-excesive carbon dioxide in the atmosphere indirectly causes global warming

-if were experiencing carbon dioxide given off in th 1960's then once we get to, say, the 1980's polution (20 years from now) then it will be unbelievable what will happen

we have to reverse what we have done and take away the pollution that has been given off for the past 40 years, and then this will be as bad as it will get, what is happening right now (from only human influence), thats what i mean when i sya it has to be reversed (were not experiencing the carbon dioxid ethat were giving off today
 
this subject is very grey, we must all remember that. I'm sure every civilization that crumbled over history saw their defeat before it actually happened... but once you realize you're doomed it is too late.

but all of these facts and shit are based on computer models. it's just like weather forcasts, it's not predictable but we try (and sometimes we fuck up and we're way off). yes global warming is happening, and yes it's speeding up, but that doesn't mean it will continue to speed up.

there are models out there that say that it is possible for global warming to start another ice age, so for all we know we could be seeing some epic winters... but also, you must take the magnetic field into accout for climate - the poles switch, and we're seeing evidence of a switch happening right now (it's actually been overdue for some time)... all of this could be a result of that.

and I might be way off on this one, but I don't actually think it's possible for all of greenland's ice to flow into the ocean. Yes, a majority of it will, but the ice has actually pushed the landmass itself below sea level (think of greenland as a gient bowl), so eventually the ice will be trapped within the landmass. The ground below Hudson Bay has slowly been rising ever since the icecaps of the last ice age retreated. One day Hudson Bay will become land if nothing crazy happens (like the ocean's rising to crazy heights or another ice age covers it with ice again).

The Earth is a fucked up 'thing'. I mean, think about it - we are a product of it. It's very powerfull - techtonic plates can sink because the mantle below is cold (australia used to be sinking, but it has moved off the cold area of mantle - indonesia is currently over the area and is slowly sinking), but at the same time a super plume (hoter than average mantle) can make continents bulge which is currently happening in southern africa. in the past super plumes have created great volcanic activity in the western pacific which changed the climate for some time.

Also, rivers erode the land around it, we all know this... but yet, the delta's of rivers grow bigger over time. It's easier to think of rivers eroding the land around it as the land around the river rising in elevation rather than the river dropping in elevation. Which can be true, erosion can take weight off mountains so they either speed up the groth of mountains, or make otherwise non-active mountain chains to raise in elevation.

I've said a lot of shit in this post, but I'll I'm trying to say is that all we can do is take what we have experienced, and put that to guessing as to what's comming up, but as for what is actually going to happen we have no clue - but it doesn't look good.

Makes you think - is it worth brining a child into this world if you have no faith in the world to begin with... ah fuck, don't listen to me.
 
I'm not gonna say we aren't hurting the planet with our trash but I'm fairly sure that the earth goes in cycles, and we are just coming out of an ice age I believe? So things are bound to warm up... and then eventually get cold again.
 
but with everything thats been said it almost seems like this was supposed to be happening a long time from now because earth would not go through cycles so quickly (having an ice age and then so quickly after that the earth heat up) but were speeding it up THAT MUCH, thats almost what it seems like to me
 
snow720: they say most of the damage so far is mostly irreversable

its kinda simple if you understand that what the environment is experiencing TODAY is from 40 years ago because it takes pollutiion from earth's surface 40 years to reach parts of the atmosphere where it eats away at the ozone, so really 1970-today pollution could be reversed if we could find out how to do it (i think that only technology can help)
 
it has to be, yes, but a simple solution, there is not, O3 is very hard to make and come by so it is almost impossible to fix the ozone layer, if we really want to slow it down, just stop driving suvs and ride your bike once and a while
 
you fuckewrs have n clue what you are talking about. yes there is less o2 in the enviroment, and yes carbon samples in ice core in antarctica have increased practically exponentially over the past 200 years, but that is not doing as much as you would expect. what i am abot to say came from a scientist who actually drilled for the core samples. while the world would is warming up due to increased carbon levels in the enviroment, global warming is just one of hundreds of possible explinations. more and more scientists are beginning to suspect that we are headed into the next ice age. because of the warmer temperatures, there is more moisture in the air, and eventually the world will cool down and we will head into the next ice age. this trewnd can be observed before any ice age. also, the added moiture to the air is acting as a partial blockade to the hole in the o-zone, so that problem is not as bad as it is being played out
 
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