Jibtech
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'this sounds like its becoming a micheal moore documentery'
I'm suprised Anewmorning has chimed in yet to call Moore a Fat Ass.
what a typical right wing response to a logical argument. fuck its not even an argument, its a fact, and I know its a fact because one, I payed out my ass, secondly its been all over the new papers since it happened a few years ago, many articles questioning enrons practices, (you should watch somthing other then fox news) and now audio tapes with enron traders laughing and making jokes about taking californians for ridiculous amounts of money. This shit isn't made up... The entire state of California was bent over and fucked in the ass by Enron.
and about those ties to the bush camp...
Enron and its executives have given more than $2 million to the Bush campaign and other GOP causes, while donating about a quarter of that amount the the deomcrats.
Why would enron support bush? Energy deregulation, alowing them to manipulate prices, which they ended up doing quite well.
Bush is trying to downplay his ties to Enron... but they are there: Enron CEO Kenneth Lay has actualy been a friend of Bush and the Bush family for years. When Gov. Bush ran for president, Enron gave him access to a company jet. In April 2000, when Enron opened a new baseball stadium named for the firm, then-candidate Bush sat right in front of Lay in the Enron box. So Dubya, are you telling me you didn't talk with 'Kenny-Boy' that whole time? How did you end up in the Enron box in the first place? Oh the Usher directed you there? Riiiiiiight.
As Bush assumed the presidency, Enron had unusual access to the new administration's deliberations about energy policy and appointments to important posts. Lay served on the Bush transition team and helped interview candidates for the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, which oversees the gas pipelines and electricity grids that are key to Enron's business. (hum... do you think its a good idea to let the CEO of a company choose the people that are going to regulate him from making millions of dollars?) Earlier this year, the commission's chairman, Curtis Hebert, who was being considered for reappointment by the White House, declared himself 'offended' by Lay's lobbying efforts. Hebert later quit the panel.
When Vice President Dick Cheney drafted a new energy policy, he met with Lay and other Enron executives. Enron was reportedly the only company to be granted such a meeting.
So, whats really going on?
Everytime someone says somthing logical, or presents facts that go against the right wing agenda, right wingers dodge the point made and counter with some distracting slander. They thow out the word 'liberal' in such condecending tones, like anyone who is a 'liberal' is an anti american terrorist loving hippie.
The conservative right wing stance is 'we are your government, belive what we tell you. All these people questioning us are obviously goons, and anti american.'
I say nay. As an American, you have a right to question question your government. It doesn't make you anti America, if any thing it makes you pro America. The US government has done many questionable things in its history, Vietnam, Bay of Pigs, Iran/Contra to name a few... looking back on those things its clear, we fucked up.
Hindsight is 20/20.
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Lets say you have 10 000 people, about the number of drunken rowdy males at a Flames playoff game. Armed with nothing more than semi-auto 22\'s and flaming Alberta whiskey, this rag-tag group could fight a successful guerilla campaign against 150 000 US troops plus tens of thousands of coalition troops, costing $5 bil a MONTH and lasting at least 2 years. Pretty pathetic considering the US spends more on its military per year than every other country COMBINED.
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I'm suprised Anewmorning has chimed in yet to call Moore a Fat Ass.
what a typical right wing response to a logical argument. fuck its not even an argument, its a fact, and I know its a fact because one, I payed out my ass, secondly its been all over the new papers since it happened a few years ago, many articles questioning enrons practices, (you should watch somthing other then fox news) and now audio tapes with enron traders laughing and making jokes about taking californians for ridiculous amounts of money. This shit isn't made up... The entire state of California was bent over and fucked in the ass by Enron.
and about those ties to the bush camp...
Enron and its executives have given more than $2 million to the Bush campaign and other GOP causes, while donating about a quarter of that amount the the deomcrats.
Why would enron support bush? Energy deregulation, alowing them to manipulate prices, which they ended up doing quite well.
Bush is trying to downplay his ties to Enron... but they are there: Enron CEO Kenneth Lay has actualy been a friend of Bush and the Bush family for years. When Gov. Bush ran for president, Enron gave him access to a company jet. In April 2000, when Enron opened a new baseball stadium named for the firm, then-candidate Bush sat right in front of Lay in the Enron box. So Dubya, are you telling me you didn't talk with 'Kenny-Boy' that whole time? How did you end up in the Enron box in the first place? Oh the Usher directed you there? Riiiiiiight.
As Bush assumed the presidency, Enron had unusual access to the new administration's deliberations about energy policy and appointments to important posts. Lay served on the Bush transition team and helped interview candidates for the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, which oversees the gas pipelines and electricity grids that are key to Enron's business. (hum... do you think its a good idea to let the CEO of a company choose the people that are going to regulate him from making millions of dollars?) Earlier this year, the commission's chairman, Curtis Hebert, who was being considered for reappointment by the White House, declared himself 'offended' by Lay's lobbying efforts. Hebert later quit the panel.
When Vice President Dick Cheney drafted a new energy policy, he met with Lay and other Enron executives. Enron was reportedly the only company to be granted such a meeting.
So, whats really going on?
Everytime someone says somthing logical, or presents facts that go against the right wing agenda, right wingers dodge the point made and counter with some distracting slander. They thow out the word 'liberal' in such condecending tones, like anyone who is a 'liberal' is an anti american terrorist loving hippie.
The conservative right wing stance is 'we are your government, belive what we tell you. All these people questioning us are obviously goons, and anti american.'
I say nay. As an American, you have a right to question question your government. It doesn't make you anti America, if any thing it makes you pro America. The US government has done many questionable things in its history, Vietnam, Bay of Pigs, Iran/Contra to name a few... looking back on those things its clear, we fucked up.
Hindsight is 20/20.
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Lets say you have 10 000 people, about the number of drunken rowdy males at a Flames playoff game. Armed with nothing more than semi-auto 22\'s and flaming Alberta whiskey, this rag-tag group could fight a successful guerilla campaign against 150 000 US troops plus tens of thousands of coalition troops, costing $5 bil a MONTH and lasting at least 2 years. Pretty pathetic considering the US spends more on its military per year than every other country COMBINED.
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