Kerry "cheats" during debate

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remember the 30 pages of rules made before the debate, well one of them said you could not bring in any thing yourself, such as notecards. If you wanted a black piece of paper to take notes during the debate, it would be put on the podium for you.

It seems kerry did reach into his pocket and pull out a couple notecards during the debate. To me this seems like Kerry is given a clear advantage because all his ideas are cleary written down for him, while Bush has to think for himself. Interested to see if people view this as cheating or a minor detail.

 
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i'm sure that would have been ALL OVER THE NEWS if it was true and i watched the whole thing and didn't notice that at all

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^hahaha i get it now. and ya man ur kidding urself. it would ahve been everywhere by now if it were true.

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hmm, i did seem to see kerry pull someting from his pocket and then write on things throughout the debate which imlies... OH HOLY SHIT!

BLANK NOTECARDS!?!

not to be an ass or anything, but im thinking that was called for

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why would he pull black notecards out of his pocket when he knew he could ask for one to be on the podium for him and not incite any type of controversy.

I saw a video of Kerry doing it, it was very clear shot of him from a camera in the back of the room

 
Bush was also writing shit down to by the midway and thats when his answer started to get better. Maybe your just pissed because Kerry figured out that by writing things down he could construct a better answer while it took Bush half of the debate to figure that out.

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if this was true, bush and his administration would have been all over it. but they're not, so its definatly FALSE.

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Ummmm, -' while Bush has to think for himself'

You think he actually believe this ^ .......

Cheating???? Bush is the one wearing the earpiece to help him answer debate questions. In the middle of an answer bush said, 'now let me finish' as if someone was interrupting him - yet nobody did - he was talking to the person in his earpiece. The ’let me finish’ quip was clearly bush talking to someone in his earpiece- saying ’let me finish’ (before you give me the next answer). He blows it 60 seconds into his 90 second reply- so no warning lights had gone off and the moderator had not motioned for him to end as there was plenty of time left.

There is really no other plausible explanation for this huge blunder- who was he telling to ’let him finish’? The voices in his head?

 
Who really cares? He still beat Bush's ass.

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It does look like he takes something out. But still i doubt he'd snoop that low. And i agree Bush still beat him. Bush said what he planed as Kerry once again stuck in the past and just mentioned all of what Bush has done wrong with very little plans of his own.

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The media hasn't mentioned it and if it was 'cheating' they would have. Also Bush had asked that they only be allowed a certain amount of 30 second responces yet he seemed to be interupting the moderator everytime asking to respond to Kerry's answer. Is this cheating too?

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Wow. He cheated with all those cameras on him? Millions of people watching, and noone noticed it and decided to put it on the news? Or anything? Because if he got away with that one, he must be pretty friggin' crafty. I call Bullshit.

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bush cheated to win the last election...that wsa not on the news very much....

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coolcat you obviously didn't pay attention to the debate. at all.

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OOOO WELLLL if you show me a clip from online which im sure the debates are out there to watch i will beleive it! Or at elast an article or a site that prooves it

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lets see, whats worse? cheating in a debate, or cheating in a presidential election so that you win?

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Im calling a bullshit on that one too. Not even Kerry would risk that kind of controversy for what would be on little notecards. However I want to know how you think that Bush actually cheated last election. I want to see you try to explain yourself on that one. You just are being a sore loser.

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hahaha you only need to knock another candidate if you know your candidate is going to loose.

so if i havent ever seen bush with notecards... HAHHAA EVERYTIME HE SAYS A WWORD ITS OFF A CARD... then who knows

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well lke someone said it would be on the news and stuff, buteach candidate had 131 somethings 'requests' for the debate, it was produced debate but whatere

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I saw on fox news that Kerry did indeed commit a technical foul when he took a pen out of his coat as he stepped up to his podium. Not really a big deal though.

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I'll refer some of you to a fark.com photoshop thread on teh drudge report...

http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1146353&mode=voteresults

here are a few of my favorites. The theme was 'what would happen if the Drudge Report was to go offline...

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back to what is important. whoever said 'they cant fit pictures onto notecards' is a fuckin genious. I laughed at that one.

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ya that was clutch

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just scroll down a little and download the video which clearly shows Kerry before the debate
http://www.drudgereport.com/dnc57.htm

There is no reason for Kerry to bring in a plain piece of paper to the debate because one was already waiting for him on the podium. So if Kerry already had paper waiting for him, why would he feel the need to bring in another piece of paper? THis suggests that something was written on the paper he took out of his pocket, which gives him a clear advatage over bush.

 
It makes you think. But from what I saw it was inconclusive. It could have been notes or it could have just been nothing. I don't think its really that important.

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for all we know, drudge could have left out the part of the rules that might say that the only paper you can have is you final comment, because its more of a prewritten speech. so maybe we should research this a little more.

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I think that if Bush was caught doing this it would be all over the media, but because of the obvious media bias, they chose not to report it.

^^maybe you should research more because the rules clearly say what you are allowed to bring in and not to bring in. Its not like drudge uncovered this himself, search it on google and youll find other sources reporting the same thing.

 
even fox forgot it huh? that's unusual. Drudge and Fox seem to have the same stories ususlly...

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Did you guys ever think that maybe he was given and put them into his pocket to keep them there until he needed them or got to his podium?

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT KERRY AND BUSH ARE RUNNING FOR THE FUCKING PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!! ASSUMING THAT THEY WERE STUPID ENOUGH TO CHEAT, AND NOBODY STOPPED THEM, THEY WOULDN'T MAKE IT AS BLATANT AS THAT!!! ALL YOU FUCKING RETARDS NEED TO LEARN THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU LIKE ONE GUY, YOU SHOULDN'T GO AROUND BASHING THE OTHER GUYS REP AND SHIT!!! SO YOU FOUND A SHITTY ASS CLIP OF A FUCKING PRESIDENTIAL CANIDATE PULLING SOMETHING OUT OF HIS POCKET!!! DO YOU WANT A FUCKING COOKIE?!?!?! DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT NO OFFICIALS SAW IT?!?!?! DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT IF HE REALLY HAD CHEATED IT WOULDN'T BE ALL OVER THE NEWS?!?!?! DO YOU REALLY FUCKING THINK THAT IF THAT VIDEO WERE WORTH A SHIT, HE WOULDN'T COME FORWARD AND DENOUNCE IT OR ADMIT IT?!?!?!

DO YOU REALLY, TRULY, HONESTLY THINK THAT YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE IF YOU WATCH THAT VIDEO AND IMMEDIATELY DECIDE THAT YOU'RE VOTING FOR THE GUY WHO PULLED PAPER OUT OF HIS POCKET?!

DO YOU REALLY HAVE TO ASK WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD AND WHY IT'S GONE TO HELL?



I'm completely unbiased as to this election. I honestly dislike both of the major canidates (and I don't think Nader or any of the other canidates are that great either...). As much as I really do care about what happens, and as much as it really does affect me and my whole life, I would honestly vote for myself in this election. That way,I get to vote and use my 'privalege', and I am not voting for anything I do not believe in.

That said, I think you all need to think about what the fuck is going on in the world, and everything that is about to happen, and only then should you make a choice about who to vote for...

Not to bash anybody or their ideas, but Democracy is one of the worst forms of government in terms of efficiency, power distrobution and general international politics. They say that communism looks great on paper but in real life it's not that great. Well take a look at our government today. Not only is it nothing like the origianl idea of democracy as decided by Solon (let's not get into the whole Solon vs. Plutarch debate) and his athenian democracy (which isn't a true democracy by today's standards, but is a much better one that, aside form having some small holes, did a much better job than the government that rules the US). The point is, if you really do feel that one of the canidates can be a better president than anybody else that you could possibly think of, then vote for them, but if you can think of even one other person that would do a much better job, don't vote for anyone but them. That's how it's supposed to work...

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^ thank you. Thats what I was thinking all along. I put things people give me int omy pockets all the time, including notes, money, tickets, etc...

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^It is part of the election...

And Bush broke the rules on several occasions (Just thought I'd say it before somebodyelse did)...

It was actually pretty funny to watch because Bush would be like, 'I think I deserve some extra time to answer this question' and then kerrywould start to say, 'Sure, why don't you just change the rules some more!' but they always cut off his microphone when he got to the word just after the first time...

They're like two little kids! The first one changes the rules of the game (and claims he's allowed because he's the boss) and then the second bitches about it and runs to mommy crying.

Seriously,how many of you did that whenyou were like 4 or 5?

And how many of you still do it?

I hope that proved my point, but if you said you still do it than youdeserve to be shot...

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Don't worry folks if kerry used note cards...bush was wired i touched up the original a little but just to show you where...

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Thats wierd i was just gonna post that picture. Supposdly Bush was wearing a wire and that would exsplain his posture and also some of the wierd comments he made when it sounded like he was talking to someone else.

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^ Yea there ya go u r so right. No wait ur a moron no one cheated no notecards no wires nuthin shut up@@

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boo hoo, hell.. even if those note cards are real and he did cheat and get past all the officials and stuff that makes kerry a non pussy and shows that he is willing to put everything on the line.

hamock or what ever your name is - you know jack shit about politics. im guesing you are 16 or 17, living with your parents who own some company or make a shitload of money. Your parents hate kerry because they are going to be taxed more and you hear everything like 'Bush is so much better' or 'kerry is going to make our country weak'. I hear this all the time at my house, but its the other way around, my parents hate bush with a passion. I am not closed minded though, i think both candidates suck, they both have good ideas and bad ideas. come november 2nd i will be voting for someone like.... not gay.

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^exactly...

vote for yourself!

If everybody voted for themself, there's be like mass chaos for like a week, but then everything would be perfect...

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omg shut up dude. bush so did not cheat in the debates. God I hate you and I bet that picture is a lie and photoshopped. god you are all so stupid, now go vote bush because that is a lie!!

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did that make any sense?
 
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