Keep us out of the Olympics

As far as exsposure, I would like more grass roots exposure. Liek you dragging your buddies who don't ski out on to the hill. Small start ups like Ski Time and Newschoolers to keep growing and all successful because they have skier backing and not corporate.

Sure the Olympics are the "ultimate competition" and as much as it would be great to see someone from this area of skiing win it, I think to get there we would have to sacrifice too much.
 
wow all of u r faggets who dont wanna b in the olimpics....it would b so gnarly fuck u faggs who think itll b less"stezzzier" to ski after this....u can go snowblade assssss hole
 
what's wrong with progressing the sport so that we r known, i dont like the fact that skiers would want to ski for money though, it should all be about the love of skiing not the rewards, i personally wish the olympics were more exciting so maybe freesking would amp it up a bit and people would know what we were all about, there will always be those noobs in the park whether freeskiing is in the olympics or not
 
agreed. I don't think that the sport would atract much more people to the sport because older people will think that ski pipe is like snowboarding and the risk envovled is just to great, and they have racing. and little kids want to be snowboarders cause that is "cool" and "in". skiing would get the people that already ski, like racers and the people that just ski groomers. i would love to see skiing in the olympics because skiers in my opinion go way bigger than snowboarders do. sure people would start skiing the parks more if they saw this on tv but you have to think, you were in the same spot before. hopefully these newcomers will have some sense and start small and work there way up. And this big issue with sponsors, not that many big companies will sponsor skiers cause they already sponsor snowboarders and snowboarding is already bigger than skiing and that is how they get their companies name out to people. Skiing in the olympics would be awesome, and all of you people saying that it would hurt the sport will also think it is cool when it happens.
 
skiing needs exposure, but not through the olympics, maybe they should put comps on tv, like the entire US open, we need more than the X-games, the olympics r too commercialized, keep skiing cool, dont be a fool
 
pipe is cool, and it would get the sport alot more attention, shure there would be dumb FIS rules for the olympics, but taht doesant mean that its giogn to turn into moguls or bumps style, you will still be able to do WHATEVER you want normally
 
You've a point, but there is a big difference between surfing and skiing. What I think that will happen when more people are going to ski and we don't want mountains get too crowded we make it more expensive...
 
ok snowboarding is in the olympics, did it change? no. We won't change either because we're pretty much the exact same people doing the exact same thing
 
Well after reading all this i came up with some thoughts of mine. I began skiing when i was 6(now i'm 21) but most of my life i've been an aggressive skater. Rollerblading deals with the opposite problem to yours. We have less money less sponsors and a smaller industry than skateboarding. Riders suffer from big injuries( bcuz as u may know rollerblading have become really dangerous last couple of years) and they don't even get health insurance in the States not to mention countries like Poland which i live in. We're doing our best to promote it , because it's worth showing to a bigger public. A guy jumping from a 6 m high roof is really worthseeing but still we get hate from the whole extreme industry. U should be really enjoying the fact that your/my sport is going to the olympics, that u have lots of sponsors that really pay riders some money. I don't want to say too much bcuz i'm quite fresh in freeskiing and i really can't say what's the financial situation of ur industry but after seeing some ski movies i got to admit that there's much more money in it than in rolling industry. We dream of having rolling as a olympic sport. Instead we got thrown out of the X Games., so really support this idea as much as u can because being underground is fun for only a short term.

Sorry for my english mistakes if u find some.
 
I've been thinking about the snowboarding olympics and it not changing etc...

But snowboarding got into the Olympics so fast, I think its tough to say whether it changed or not. While yes snowboardinghas roots back to the 60's, I wouldn't say it was until 94 that it broke out like newschool skiing started to in the late 90's. Snowboarding got into the Olympics lightning fast. So fast its hard to say what it did to the sport.
 
I dont understand why skiing needs to get bigger/more exposure or whatever you want. I dont understand why athletes need to make "more money", especially since most pros are richer than any of us ever will be.

Back in 95 (prob when most of you were 2) I was spinnin 3s and 7s and starting to throw in grabs. There was no such thing as tanner hall, "new school skiing," or any of that shit. Progression would have happened REGARDLESS. Its only time in which new grabs/switch skiing/aerials (cork, bio, etc) would come along. All the olympics would do is overexpose the sport, putting it into the "X-treme" category, and cause every 14 year old to buy a pair of twin tips because its "in."

That just means 100+ people in a park, waiting in lines for rails, and everyone snaking everyone. Not to mention the amount of punks that would be decked out head to toe in orage or oakley shit and can barely throw a 3.

You'll see all these fake companies pretending to be "core" putting out shitty shitty products for lots of $$. I've seen this all before, history repeats itself.

If things stay exactly how they are now, progression will happen without being overexposed. In the past few years tons of new tricks have popped up and even look at the shit TJ's pulling these days!! The bigger and bigger skiing gets, the shittier and less "core" it will get making park skiing a "recreational activity" that can be done by the whole family!! I'm just sick of seeing an entire family pull a train through the halfpipe destroying the transitions and cutting me off.

Overexposure via olympics/GIANT corporate sponsors/whatever else will do to skiing what it did to rollerblading back in the 90s....make it a fad.
 
If snowboarders got the halfpipe to rep for their country, then so should skiing. I thought it was a joke to have halfpipe snowboarding as an Olympic sport in the first place! But the Olympic marketing people needed to boost their lowering ratings. So fair is fair on this one.
 
Wow, there are some pretty blind opinions here.

First I will address Pesca, because you so completely have your head in the sand on this. Your main complaint about an increase of exposure for Newschool skiing would be that there would be "far too many new skiers in MY park"... obviously you were completely oblivious that parks were only a symptom of the massive influx of snowboarders.. in fact most ski hills designated them "snowboard parks" and did not allow skiers in.

So exposure of a sport is what GAVE you that park in the first place... Exposure of the sport you will do will only serve to make investment into that park even more profitable to the Ski Hill.. which in turn means you will likely see better rails, better pipes, better hits.. and maybe even a dedicated high speed lift... all so YOU can spin your threes, sevens and try for a grab like you were when you were young.

Now for the second thing I am going to address.. the pay that Newschool skiers make..

What amazes me is that some of you seem to think that these kids make good money. Tanner is well off because like many others on good advice, he invested early what money he did make in Real Estate.

In ANY other job.. I mean ANY, if you were asked to take the risks these kids are EXPECTED to take for the money they make you would laugh at the person and tell them to take a hike... you would find a different job. I make what most of these kids make working in an unrelated feild, my work can on occasion pose a high risk for injury or death (as these kids face regularly.. look at CR ).. when this happens in my case.. I will get paid many times what I normally would.

Well you are probably saying that this is not sports.. and in sports its part of of.. well you are right..

But in every other mainstream sport, atheletes get very tidy and clean contracts that guarantee them substantial wages if they get injured during work.

Ask yourself, how much is your ability to walk and speak worth to you?

Mainsteaming of this sport will undoubtedly bring an increase in the salary potential for the top players. I have seen it happen in a sport I am very very familar with.. BMX.

I can assure you that Tanner Hall and all his compatriots come nowhere near what Nyquist or Mirra make.

But they should.. They should be able to invest the time and energy they do, take the risks they do.. and know that even if they have a career ending injury by 24, they will have made a lifetime of money.

Remember, if you hurt yourself an permanently disable yourself at work, you will be compensated for the rest of your life..

for these kids, their only compensation is the money they make until that point.

Now the last thing I am going to touch on..

Regulation.

Regulation of the sport will be the most drastic change that will occur after this sport sees the olympics.

But the changes will not be what you think, sure there will be official limitations on equipment, as there is now on race skis.. but no-one can convince me that Bode's skis are not the most state of the art, advanced skis on the planet..

These limitations only force engineers to work harder on improvements. But in truth that will not really affect you, the average everyday park skier..

However, there will be something that will drastically affect you, the regulations on park/pipe.

That would mean that more and more hills would adopt a standard for their pipes, imagine every place you go to, the pipe would be the ideal dimensions, ideal transition, ideal lenght and ideal slope.

That is where you will see regulations taking effect.

Yes, I won't discount that it will change our type of skiing from it's current form, and some of those changes will not be agreeable, but change is how this all started, why would you want to stop it now?

Can you honestly say that regulation of the other aspects of skiing has drastically hurt skiing in general?

If so, please ditch your park skis, put on some skins and tour out of the damn resort.
 
wow....

You are about as full of yourself as any person I have ever come across!

Who the fuck voted you the king of the mountain, who gave you entitlement to YOUR park! Those "punks" and "familys" have the exact same amount of "right" to be in "your" park!

Oh...you were "throwing 3s and 7s back in 95" whoopee doo! Same here bro, same with many of the members here, but atlkeast some of us are smart enough to remember when skiers were not allowied to be in the park!

You were around in "95", so you should vididly rember getting kicked out of terrain parks across the world if you did not have a snowboard on your feet.

Do you know why your hill now had multiple half pipes, do you know why mountains invests 100s of thousands in their terrain parks every year? It is not so "you" can keep it real with you "3s and 7s" it is because enhanced terrain is now mainstream and an required part of any mountain's menu.

You are not that cool bro!

you have no more ownership than joey with the starter jacket "who can barely throw 3s"...are you really this bitter and judgemental about everyone....

You are the sterotype of the skier snob!

You suck
 
who gets to make these regulations will also be very derastic. A park pass should be included in these regulations to limit the amount of posers/snowbladers.
 
Think more along the lines of a seperate Olympic training facility on the hill. With a regulation park.

Any of the people who ski on his where they have training facilities for Moguls or Aerials already understand this concept fully. There is terrain dedicated to these facilities and are not for general use. If you are a member of an accredited organization, with coaching present their use is permitted.
 
Totally agree bro.

Those ARE the rich skiers, the ones who ski 100+ days a year and who nobodies ever heard of. None of them complain because they are making a choice to do what they love. If you paid them they'd be assholes. At least now they're only assholes at Squaw, just think if they all were salaried....
 
the park pass is in some ways a similar concept. where i ride (mont avila) you need a park pass to enter the park its 10 bucks and you have to show it everytime you enter the park. you have to sign the waver saying your taking your own risks or whatever and there are other rules like no snowbladers(my favorite)etc, it works well
 
ya I was just bitching on another forum about how they dont do skiing halpipe event but maybe your right I dont know anymore But its not like snowboarding is any different now that its in the olympics shawn white is not on the wheaties box but I do like ur point that might bring a lame anti-fun aspect to our recreation.
 
So, snowboarding has a World Cup, and they are in the Olympics.

Other than drug-testing, please tell me how much more "regulated" those events are than the X-Games, pro events etc.

Because there is a FIS World Cup, have the X-Games, Grand Prix, or pro athletes suffered because of it?

They use many of the same judges, and judge the same way as the pro events (every judge does overall).

Many of the officials at their World Cup also work for the big pro comps like Grand Prix, WSI, etc.

There is no such thing as a "FIS approved snowboard" for whoever made the comment about twintips. Other than at the Olympics, no countries wear matching suits.

Skiing could be the same way, where the pros can continue to enjoy all the aspects of the sport they do now, as well has have even more opportunities to make a living as a skier.

It's just another circuit where people can make a living competng at their sport. If you don't like it, then simply don't participate, theres no need to try and have it shut down for those that do want to give it a try.

Sounds like the guys that did the World Cup this year were pretty happy about it.

Anyone good enough to potentially go to the Olypmics wants to go, regardless of whether or not some kid on the internet thinks that is "selling out".
 
Very well said, finally someone has an intelligent post on here.

I don't see how anyone wouldn't want skiing to go to the Olympics. The FIS is changing to accomodate the needs of our sport, and the regulations that would be imposed would be very positive ones. I would love to have pipe/park requirements and official specifications, the sport needs it.

I would also love skiing to get as much exposure as possible, and my reasons are simply for innovation. The more money that is being pumped into our sport and the more people involved, the more innovation and progression takes place. For example, Line's brilliant idea to make bindings interchangeable on plates is a great example of innovation, but the bindings aren't well designed, so while the idea is great, the money and talent to make it happen on a large scale successfully isn't there, and it would be if our sport was larger. This is one example, but I hope you can see how our sport going mainstream is a very good thing. The more money coming into our sport, the better for us.
 
if skiing was in the olympics, maybe parents and older people would understand freestyle skiing more and old gay people who yell to us to "pull up are pants" and to "stop skiing backwards" would understand the sport more and we would have a better image
 
The Olympics and World Cups for snowboarding are judged exactly the same way as their pro events (X-Games etc), and sometimes by many of the same judges

5- 7 Judges, all of them giving a score for "overall impression"
 
I'm not sure what I think about this. Maybe we should get all the pro's and sponsored am's together and have a vote.
 
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